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Go to TMS I got one a few months back and its exactly the same (obviously) as the stealers, clip in job. Under 16 notes

Take your back seats out etc. That will make more difference to performance than any fancy IK and TB enlargment ever could!

Weight reduction, thats free

Got it done on my 172 and nothing to write home about

Folk on this forum are obsessed with anything to do with the intake systems on 172's / 182's Loads more areas to concentrate on with out p****** about with 1- 2bhp gains ..

....plus no real performance gain unlike the Maxogen :S You wont find a better IK than a Maxogen in terms of build. Performance is only slightly better than a Viper (from my experience which both were set up fuelling wise after fitting) Key factor is that no matter what IK you buy, if its...

Apex, only springs to 'properly' lower a 172. For the best handling most folk seem to favour Eibach Do a search though. Loads of topics on it

How does it draw cold air in when its right up against the slam panel?

TB's are the more realistic choice. For pure madness a 20v turbo Vag engine conversion would be the way to go.

Nice one cheers

Can you still buy this half cage does anyone know ??

Must be twin engined Doubt any charger would boost a 172 lump up to 400

Just put a piece of black tape covering the bulb hole between the circit board and the gauge plate. Its totally hidden and if you wanted you could just unpeel it without damaging the light :) I put a mini guide up on here a while back. Unbolting / blocking / plugging the lamda holes...

I have corrosion on the roof of my ph1 172 too !! Not actually rusted through as yet but my roof is littered with surface bubbles! As there's a 12 years anti corrosion warranty iv never bothered and was only gonna do so when it got too bad. Last month when my car was in for work at a...

Aye but he'd only need to do it once so to eliminate other potential causes of poor idling / reving up :rasp:

Does the fact iv had 2 sets of door stays in 90 thousand miles mean the doors have a design fault?? Only had one spring failure on the TB at 60 thousand miles and the cars done 97 thousand now. Id personally class that as wear and tare rather than a outright design fault.

What on earth are you on about boy :clown:

Lots of cash for little gains dosent sound like much of a worth while challenge 20v Vag Turbo power is the way forward.

Which auction are you going to ? :)

They never came out the factory like this so its not a design fault as such Lots of things can cause poor idling but the more common is the TB return spring becoming worn with age and use

Apex arnt that hard, its just some folk are pansies ;) Iv turned the Konis up a notch because the suspension felt too soft with the Apex and im not a 'boy racer' either ! lol

Not really conclusive that mate as youve reduced the amount of air that can be sucked in by using a smaller IK. Fairly obvious that would choke it up a fair amount :)

Nothing wrong with apex going by my 3 years of using them. IMO good value for money Eibach might be more comfy but you dont get much of a drop

The only way you'll get a drop from fitting a induction kit is heat soak. If its on a proper rolling road you wont get that due to the fan cooling the engine. Lots of info missing from the guy who put this topic up I was well impressed with the Viper i had

You dont need to replace the discs, only if their worn Only the whole mount i belive. Its only a few quid so not worth messing about

Have a pop at lowering it yourself mate. Really is easy Great guide here http://www.fubarnet.com/

When i got mine mapped i was there all day on a Saturday. That was a while back though

I never bother and its been fine

I got £110 just for the back box!

Probably just needs tightning up 4 torx bolts under the centre section to drop the heat shield down, then tighten the 13mm bolt to desired position, job done