172/182 Turbo Conversion Kit - £2600

[The Hoff]

Well after reading up about this in the Fastchip thread, I thought such a thing should have its own dedicated thread - so here it is!

From what I've read and understand the kit will turn any 172/182 into a 220bhp beast even when running only the standard cat and exhaust, so with the turbo fitted I'd expect a decent decat/sport cat and exhaust system would push another few ponies from it.

Reason I'm vaguely excited about it is because it's the first kit I've seen that is actually affordable and justifyable in my book, so I maybe looking at this over the next few months with interest, although I don't feel winter would really lend itself very well to such investment.

Anyway here's the spec and a few pictures nicked off of the other thread:

Flyer:

Conversion pictures:

Product:
http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=680_927_1359_1360

So thoughts and opinions?

 

[ben_p]

nice!

 

[Paul Common 666]

I want!

 

[franx]

Kind of late mate, 2 or 3 threads discussing this already

I'm having a spin in their converted RS this Thursday. Testing is all done , it has withstood the track-thrashing so now they're comfortable selling it. A product which they are strongly enthousiastic about !

I will defo post up my testdrive-experience !

 

[The Hoff]

Indeed, for some reason ITB's @ 3.5k or BBPT Turbo conversion 5k(?) really just isn't a worthy investment for the return IMHO and the value of the cars. But £2.5k seems on the money for me, just thinking of getting a loan and sorting something out in a few months to cover it.

Need some more details from Henk really, just wondering if it's even remotely fittable in a home mechanic environment and if there's sufficient documentation to fit it oneself, a box of parts and an invoice would leave me scratching my arse!

Would also like to know what effects this would have on the following:

1. Fuel consumption, when not booting it.
2. Typical 0-60 time for such a kit.
3. If the boost could be notched up any further, although guessing that would kill a clutch/internals/box pretty quickly.

 

[The Hoff]

Kind of late mate, 2 or 3 threads discussing this already

I'm having a spin in their converted RS this Thursday. Testing is all done , it has withstood the track-thrashing so now they're comfortable selling it. A product which they are strongly enthousiastic about !

I will defo post up my testdrive-experience !

Where they based chap, and how do you go aobut testing it?

 

[ben_p]

i'd fit it for a few hundred lado.

 

[rob192]

Will this be suitable for a ph1 172? Just thinking ahead to my next car

 

[TheJesus]

sounds like a great piece of kit, 220bhp sounds like it should be nice and usable day to day

 

[franx]

Kind of late mate, 2 or 3 threads discussing this already

I'm having a spin in their converted RS this Thursday. Testing is all done , it has withstood the track-thrashing so now they're comfortable selling it. A product which they are strongly enthousiastic about !

I will defo post up my testdrive-experience !

Where they based chap, and how do you go aobut testing it?

Well, this thursday will be a test for ME, see how drivability is maintained/enhanced to my experience. We will probably be taking her to some of the dutch (always flat !) curvy backroads of south-east Holland, which are the roads to check out it's torque, hitting it hard coming out of curves . Want a general feel of regular and fast driving.

For the rest i will be trusting them on their professional opinion from testing on reliablity and such, they seem professional enough.

** Based in Southeast Holland, will be 100 mile drive for me.

 

[Greeny.]

I would have this kit if i had the money without a doubt!

 

[midge]

sounds like the perfect compomise, 7psi is low boost so it shouldnt brake anything, im guessing it will use a thicker head gasket, or maybe even standard.

 

[franx]

i'd fit it for a few hundred lado.

You're the one with the thread of the year, fitting this is absolutly peanuts for you

When you have the tools then it should be an easy fit with manual and all ..

 

[sk311y]

so when dose it hit the market if its still bein tested any ideas?

 

[Quade]

Nearly 200ft/lb ! Tasty!

 

[MillerLight]

Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1100
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 203.21
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.64
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.82
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.19
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.02
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.69
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.82
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 102.50


ISH....

 

[Dubai182]

Seems a great price for such gains....

I guess the usual problems with gearbox would emerge about repeatably hard use?

 

[Chris n nic]

So 220bhp from a std engine...what sort of things would a decatted exhaust etc 172 push out. This looks very nice and as said not silly power

Chris

 

[manicmonkey]

i hope all the power doesnt come in one big lump!

 

[Chris n nic]

Well it says that the torque comes in at 2k so it should be quite nice having that low down power and then coming on cam at 5k so pulling again.

Chris

 

[Gaz_]

interesting Looks good, would be onto a winner if its plug and play

 

[Bloooor]

Turbo Kit for a Tidy Price! I like it

Kind of late mate, 2 or 3 threads discussing this already

I'm having a spin in their converted RS this Thursday. Testing is all done , it has withstood the track-thrashing so now they're comfortable selling it. A product which they are strongly enthousiastic about !

I will defo post up my testdrive-experience !

Where abouts are these threads mate? Have you got the links to them?

Cheers

 

[Greeny.]

Seems a great price for such gains....

I guess the usual problems with gearbox would emerge about repeatably hard use?

At the end of the day its down to how you treat it, drive it like you stole it and your gunna get more problems than someone who only gives it some now and then!

 

[Markyx2cuk]

keep us posted with this one coz its seems interesting!! as said the boost level is low enuff not to give u massive problems unless u abuse it and the power gains are good for the price!!

 

[CHRISK172+]

Looks like interesting stuff.....i want:approve:

 

[The Hoff]

Be interesting to see how the insurance differs by adding a turbo. Thinking big kahuna's!

 

[Big Bob]

i still cant get past the pube

lol

 

[ja.jack]

LOL diy turbo installation.If you had to get some one to fit and fettle it you'd be nearly up to Ktec price.

 

[Gaz_]

Change of manifold will be the hardest bit. Everything else will be straight forward, plug and play looms, pipe work.... easy. I plummed in a front mount on my punto GT a few years ago, easy enough.

 

[bradfincham]

my concerns :

How the hell are they going to lower the compression ratio

Personally id stay well clear of it, but if you guys want to try on your car il be interested ha ha

 

[Gaz_]

you wont need to on a low boost kit?

 

[bradfincham]

you wont need to on a low boost kit?

i think you will find that you need to

on the nova 1.6 gte we built that ran 7-10 psi

with a thicker head gasket to lower the CR
Microswitch to trigger a 5th injector to deliver more fuel on turbo boost

that was cheapish DIY build

 

[Gaz_]

Big boost yes, but this is only a low boost kit

 

[carrmrc96]

Its still alot of money really for the gain. get a diesel and get it remapped. lol only cost me £340 and gained 60HP. My golf is running at 190HP with 420Nm!! lol

 

[ja.jack]

Bodies and cams would be more exciting I'd say.

 

[CHRISK172+]

Its still alot of money really for the gain. get a diesel and get it remapped. lol only cost me £340 and gained 60HP. My golf is running at 190HP with 420Nm!! lol

Is it quicker than your Clio in all aspects?

 

[ja.jack]

They're a couple a guys working out off a garden shed as far as I can see.

 

[carrmrc96]

Its not quicker on the corners but in a straight line its beats the clio. the clio has the edge at silly speeds but the clio wont beat it on a rolling start.

 

[bradfincham]

Big boost yes, but this is only a low boost kit

i disagree you need to lower the compression ratio if you turbo a car or else youll be running diesel compressions and it wont be long till things start to fail

 

[Greeny.]

They're a couple a guys working out off a garden shed as far as I can see.

How do you see that?

Coz they arent from the UK and you have never heard of them?!?! God they must be bad if YOU havnt heard of them.