I'm wondering what the 172 cup 0-60 time actually is, most are quoted at 6.9 secs but others at 6.5 and all the variations in-between! Just curious really, as my friend has a type r which book time is 6.6 iirc and I'm wondering who will have the edge! I have tried searching but I can't find a definitive answer anywhere! I know that this car has alot more to it than racing in a straight line but just want clarification!
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imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
If your wanting to do a comparison between the two cars the general concencus is they are about the same
Dan.
Dan.
Nippy white cup
In my experience the civics are a bit harder to launch as too little revs can bog you down but too much will spin like crazy (vtec yo lol) as said above they are very similar in performance until high speeds
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
launch control??? Nope not that ive ever heard of
Dan
Dan
In the real world do you not feel that 0-60mph figures are worth nothing so to speak.
True performance is about mid-range , if a car has no mid-range performance after those 6-7 seconds your a little out of luck. How many times do people actually launch there car from STAND STILL to 0-60mph.
Its just my opinion , i would rather have fun around twisty corners then an open straight , straights do not really define a driver as anyone can change gear at a set rpm.
However to your question , i dont think parkers is too far out -
Clio 172 Cup = 6.7 s / 200 Nm / 138 mph / 1021 kg
Civic Type R = 6.4 s / 196 Nm / 146 mph / 1204 kg
True performance is about mid-range , if a car has no mid-range performance after those 6-7 seconds your a little out of luck. How many times do people actually launch there car from STAND STILL to 0-60mph.
Its just my opinion , i would rather have fun around twisty corners then an open straight , straights do not really define a driver as anyone can change gear at a set rpm.
However to your question , i dont think parkers is too far out -
Clio 172 Cup = 6.7 s / 200 Nm / 138 mph / 1021 kg
Civic Type R = 6.4 s / 196 Nm / 146 mph / 1204 kg
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Megane 225 Cup
had a little play today with one , there was nothing it it what so ever !
To be honest i doubt anyone would notice if the 0-60 was 6.6 or 6.9! Type r and clio would imagine nothing in it really. Not really about straight line speed though are they, much more suited to the twisties. Don't know about anyone else but personally i don't think i've ever had a situation on the road where i've had the opportunity to launch from 0-60 against someone!
i wouldnt be too sure on that roy the ep3's gearbox isnt the strongest if abused.
ep3's spin alot off the line where as the clio just goes so it just goes to the clio. there near identical performance wise.
Having owned an ep3 and currently, the 172 cup - this.
There is nothing in it. Clio is a little more agile, Civic has better high speed stability.
Independent rear suspension and longer wheel base ftw.
EP3 gearbox is AWSOME. The rate at which it change swap cogs at the engine speeds it can achieve, nothing short of brilliant. They all sound like a bag of nails under 2krpm mind you.
wasnt on about the actual action more the overall strength. and its all well qnd good going up the gears but try rushing it from 6th to 4th and there not so good then.
It totally depends on how they're driven, I covered 30,000 miles in mine. I bought it on 50,000. Not one crunch or delay in the syncro. But then I always give a blip / heel n toe.
The guy that bought it, on the test drive, goes from 2nd to 3rd in vtec and crunches on his first 'quick' shift.
Friend of mine has owned a cup and a type r. He said the cup was the best handling car he has ever owned, but he is now on his second civic, however that's just his preference.
As has been said before they are so well matched that 9 times out of 10 it will all be down to the driver, and unless you are on a race track or a privately owned stretch of road (ahem) then it doesnt really matter anyway, it's all just pub bragging rights.
Unless you are a racing driver, or you dont give a monkeys if you destroy your clutch, then most people aren't going to hit 60 in the claimed time anyway?
As has been said before they are so well matched that 9 times out of 10 it will all be down to the driver, and unless you are on a race track or a privately owned stretch of road (ahem) then it doesnt really matter anyway, it's all just pub bragging rights.
Unless you are a racing driver, or you dont give a monkeys if you destroy your clutch, then most people aren't going to hit 60 in the claimed time anyway?
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
I was in my mates type r last night on the way to footy. His is standard bar an induction kit. Feels quick tbh, think it would be pretty close between us. Like said it would be down to the driver all day long. love the way the type r handles though
Dan
Dan
where in ek do you live mate? i only know of one cup (blue with white wheels and carbon bonnet) mail me lol
and at the end of the day ep3 and cup would be evenish upto silly speeds as said
clio V fn2 then the clio will leave it, they are really nowhere near as fast as stated
