Another Clio 172 Cup track/race build.

[MG cup]

Small Update, no progress has been made recently on the car itself.

I have built up a head of steam this trip and should have plenty drive when I get home.

Waiting for me when I get home.
-Spare 2118's with slicks, brake deflectors, cup racer wishbones, uniball/holders & hubs.
-My fiberglass bonnet & boot.
-Axle shims, centre exhaust mount and throttle pedal & cable.
-Lower g/box mount, forge coolant hoses.
-Performance friction front pads/pagid blue rears.
-Nylon rack bushes along with loads of other little bits

Just need to finalise which sensors I am going to use and get Omex to build a loom, then get Aeroquip hose and fittings for the fuel lines.

That should allow me to get the car semi built and started hopefully in the next month.

I also decided to just go ahead and get some 197 Brembo caliper's & custom mounting brackets.

I will test fit these under my 2118's (hopefully they work) if its not possible there will be a complete 197 Brembo set up or front pads and reconditioned/painted front calipers for sale.

 

[MG cup]

Some more parts arrived, plenty to be getting on with and pretty much everything I need to complete. Just add some elbow grease.

Test fitted the brembo calipers, need some maching done to the caliper's and possibly some spacers to fit under 2118's.

Omex race loom with fan control, Omex sensors & zetec crank sensor & bracket. Crank signal splitter. Launch control button and full throttle gearshift switch & associated wiring.

Decided to just go ahead and get 120's for my ITB's as the current airbox allows this.

Some p**n in the form of aeroquip hoses and fittings for fuel, oil & breather lines.

Breather tank, oil cooler, filter take off.

 

[Tony Hunter]

££££££'s

 

[MG cup]

££££££'s

My wallets still sore

 

[Tony Hunter]

And very light.

 

[MG cup]

Yes VERY!

Do you know how your speed limiter is done i.e spark or fuel or a mix of both.

Omex dosen't really support it but with the limiter set at the right rpm for launch control, I could use that for pit lane!

 

[Tony Hunter]

Think it's done on spark.

We also are using launch control for the pit limiter (as limiter doesn't work), just means a lot of driving up and down with a gps to get the speeds right, or have you still got a speedo?

 

[MG cup]

Nice, thought you would have been using the function supplied by TDF ecu.

I hope to still run standard speedo, depends how harsh I am stripping back oem loom.

Omex did say it was possible as long as I was happy enough for it to be coughing & backfiring down pit lane. So how is your's set? You go in a certain gear and and have the launch control set to a pre- detrmined rev which gives you X speed?

Also do you use it at race starts or find its not needed?

 

[Tony Hunter]

It's rubbish for starts, do it the old way

Yes, set for different revs

Some circuits with a short pit lane, ie Mallory it will be 40kph, so we use 2nd, others like Silverstone 60kph we use 3rd.

Just need to get the two settings logged, so that you can change the revs for each circuit (and then remember which gear it is)

 

[MG cup]

Nice and easy hopefully then, just a bit of speed testing I guess.

Last question lol, how do you get the circuit/ speed etc overlay on your video's your not running data logger iirc.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Some sneaky little box that sits on the dash. Don't ask any more than that, as I don't know.

 

[MG cup]

Lol Jay's side of things then. Noticed toast had the same aswell. Ar**d with a data logger, just want some overlays with speed.

 

[Torretto]

Where did you get the Brembo adapters from dude?

 

[MG cup]

French guy caled seiz on http://www.cliors-concept.com. I had to speak french in PM's, google translate FTW.

Rikus automotive aka Noos on here used too sell them and looks like he's putting them back into production, look at traders section.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Lol Jay's side of things then. Noticed toast had the same aswell. Ar**d with a data logger, just want some overlays with speed.

PM Jay, he knows what it is, then you just need to download something, and bingo.

 

[Cupman29]

Some nice goodies there!

Hope you don't have the same issue I had that some fittings and hoses are not compatible with each other. Very annoying!

 

[MG cup]

Some nice goodies there!

Hope you don't have the same issue I had that some fittings and hoses are not compatible with each other. Very annoying!

Hope not, got an-6 teflon hose and fittings for all the fuel hoses and standard an-8 hose with a mix of fast flow and standard for oil cooler and breather system. Had to get x-over for Mocal stuff 1/2bsp to an-8

What was your issue, this is the first time I have used aeroquip parts??

 

[Cupman29]

It was the 1/2" bsp to an10 fitting for the sandwich plate. It was too tight to push the hose in with the insert inside the hose if you know what I mean.

The an10 to an10 fittings for the cooler were fine.

 

[LewisTaylor]

Wow some goodies there mate, looks to be going well

 

[MG cup]

Where are you getting the fibreglass panels? Do they quote what weight they are?

No progress pics yet, some pics of parts I have received today. Got my fiberglass boot and bonnet finally, really good quality and weigh nothing.

For you Kenny Boot weighs 3.8kg and the bonnet 4.7kg. Im unsure of original panels weight, someone could confirm.

And this lot from Jenvey FOC, cant recommend them enough, top customer service.

Good solution for retro fitting cable throttle for phase 2's. I had a search around and couldn't find any info on fitting cable and a few people just said chop phase 1 cable and fit a grub screwed nipple to the end, hopefully this will be better, cheaper to replace cable aswell if need be.

 

[LewisTaylor]

Don't fit the grub screwed nipple! If you are heavy footed you'll more than likely pull the cable strait out of it!

After a few PM's i found the best method was cut the throttle cable at the end that goes to the throttle pedal, get an electrical chop block, feed the cable through it before it goes through the throttle pedal, then through the pedal, then back through the other side of the chop block then do screws up if that makes sense? So much stronger, looks bodged, but it's brilliant.

 

[MG cup]

Yeah I get you, alright idea that.

The pedal already has a nipple pressed on the cable at the bodys, they supplied a truneon that has a r-clip and grub screw to attach to the pedal and sent a spare grubbed nipple as well in case it comes of at the body side. Should be better but I will put a chop block after it for good measure.

I will be hanging on to the wishbones unfortunately as Knockhill has mahooosive kerbs that I will be jumping so ill need them lol

 

[NorthloopCup]

Standard bonnets weigh in at around 10-12 kgs. If you remove the strengthening ribs like I've done you can get a standard one to weigh in at 5.2 kgs. The weight of the fibreglass boot lid you have is impressive as well!

If you remember would you be able to weigh the cup spoiler? From memory i think they are quite heavy.

 

[MG cup]

Yeah I was surprised aswell, was expecting the boot lid to weigh more.

Spoiler is really heavy, at a guess I would say 3-4kg but will check if I remember.

 

[MG cup]

A few update pictures of the work I done yesterday on the cage. Still need to raise the rear cross onto the strut brace, fit door cross strengtheners, pick up the rear axle points, fit gussets to B pillars and front dash bar for A pillars.

More pictures to follow tonight.

 

[tommy g]

Looks beaut mate

 

[MG cup]

Cheers, it's getting there cage wise, so much more work than I ever imagined.

 

[Kenny.s]

No progress pics yet, some pics of parts I have received today. Got my fiberglass boot and bonnet finally, really good quality and weigh nothing.

For you Kenny Boot weighs 3.8kg and the bonnet 4.7kg. Im unsure of original panels weight, someone could confirm.

Thats pretty good, not sure what my stripped panels weigh, I've got it written down in my note book back at the workshop, will check when I get home next week.
How much where they if you dont mind me asking? PM if you prefer

 

[Andrewclio]

Looking good mate!

 

[MG cup]

Few more pics from today, nearly there.

 

[neil a]

Cage is looking good cant wait to see this once it's painted, have you decided what colour the inside is going yet?

 

[MG cup]

Aye me too, Id like the same sort of colour as yours, always liked cars with gun metal interior. Only thing that puts me off is cost, sprayers up here are shocking.

Do you find your interior alright, white can be a bit blinding!

 

[neil a]

I don't find mind bad at all for glare and it doesn't seem to show up marks easily, I might paint my cage blue at some point.

 

[geznay]

Great build! Looking forward to seeing it at knockhill when complete

 

[MG cup]

Cheers, hope to be out at start of the year or maybe this year depending on the weather we get.

 

[Cr33do]

Looks really impressive. Wish I could weld; one thing I would love to be able to do.

 

[Cupman29]

Looking very nice mate, would be good to see it this year!

 

[MG cup]

A few more of today's work, trimmed and test fitted dash.

Almost finished cage, no more fabrication, just some door 'x' gussets and seat rails to weld in then clean and prime everything.

 

[MG cup]

Looks really impressive. Wish I could weld; one thing I would love to be able to do.

Thanks, I wish I could weld better haha. Its been a while but Id be stuffed if I was paying to have it fitted.

 

[MG cup]

Looking very nice mate, would be good to see it this year!

Cheers, I will see how this month goes, hoping to have it running and moving and then it will be painting and tidying up....Knockhill in winter tyres!!!

Hows your one going? Clutch okay now?