BEWARE, LOW MILEAGE LIQUID YELLOW CLIO 182 VO54 FFZ

[ThomasBrentnall]

Someone buy it and drive it into a river to get rid off it

 

[Knuckles]

Standard and non modified, the best way

apart from the engine and clutch then?

 

[Filippo]

I just bought this, it's spot on. What's the problem?

 

[Fred@BTM]

its a nail

 

[Fred@BTM]

Vehicle Report

Customer - Andrew Morley
Vehicle - Renault clio 182 - VO54 FFZ
Mileage - 32160

Mr Morley recently visited us so we could inspect a knocking noise coming from the front suspension, during conversation with Mr Morley he asked if we would cast our eye over the entire vehicle whilst it was in the workshop and see if the vehicle was mechanically sound incase of any future problems he may encouter with the vehicle (brakes, ball joint etc etc)

On first glance the car is in very good condition bodywork wise, the liquid gold paintwork was a factory option (cira £1100) and certainly offers the wow factor!

Unfortunatley for Mr Morley the bodywork is the only good thing we found with the car.

After removal of the engine undertray the starter motor heatshield was found sitting on the undertray, not where it should be! - a strange inital problem we thought! On inspection of the heatshield it seems to have been damaged, repaired poorly and then not fitted back onto the car properly (impossible to do without unbolting the exhaust manfold from the cylinder head).

starter motor heatsheild image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=fcf4a305.jpg

We also found a wheel speed sensor had been fitted very poorly to the OSF inner half shaft bearing, this certainly was an after market part, what was it doing there?

driveshaft sensor image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=45cfd0b7.jpg

We traced the wire back through the bulkhead into the vehicle and to our surprise found a very bizzare installation under the passenger footwell carpet and strange moddifications to the foot pedal on the drivers side

passenger footwell installation image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=70927ad3.jpg
clutch pedal moddification image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=83640b0f.jpg

chain mechanism behind clutch pedal image - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=625bcf4a.jpg

After a bit of investigation we found the car had been installed with an electronically activated "twin clutch" aka - the vehicle at some point had been moddified for disabled user.

The problems highlighted thus far are relativley easy to rectify, removal of the motability unit we estimate at approx 3 hours, a new starter motor heat shield is £48 and takes 1.3 hours to fit.

On further inspection of the engine bay we found a few relativley major issues - the main one being that this 2004/2005 182 (F4R 738 engine) car has been fitted with a 2001 engine from the older 172 (F4R 730/2/6 engine)

as you can see from the following images -

note the raised breather tube in the middle at the back 172 engines had this, 182's did not - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=047ec81c.jpg

To compare, a 182 engine looks like this - http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/Fredmrsclio/?action=view&current=182engine.jpg

date sticker on the rear of the block (VO54) ending in 01 - http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/... Inspection/?action=view&current=20982ca8.jpg

Without doubt this car VO54 has been fitted with the incorrect engine and isn't worth anywhere near market value


I ramble on for a bit longer, but you get the idea

ta dar

 

[marcushookdale]

haaa haa ^^^^ nice 1 fred, unlucky Filippo it is a REAL NAIL, just hope you got it for f**k all,

 

[marcushookdale]

public enemy no.1 me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WHe5fxS3dA

 

[Tony Hunter]

I just bought this, it's spot on. What's the problem?

You have got to be joking, surely.

 

[LiamR172]

I know the price is way over the top for the car, but is there anything actually wrong with it now?

I'm guessing it drives alright?

 

[Chapppers11]

Probably.

It's just the fact that it's doing most of it's miles travelling between owners and no one is telling anyone about the engine change when they sell it.

 

[Filippo]

You have got to be joking, surely.

Ha. No, I didn't really folks. It's a shame though - some poor muppet is going to pay a lot of money for a shed. It does actually look decent to the untrained eye.

 

[Knuckles]

I'm sure this would be a decent car if they knocked 1-2k off the price and/or swapped the engine for a 182 one

 

[Tony Hunter]

I wouldn't get so het up over the engine. It's just the price.

 

[Lawro]

If it was £2,500 it would be fine.. Its just the price and advert that is full of s**t.

 

[LiamR172]

Anyone mailed the owner and told h about the car?

 

[axnxdxy]

When I looked at the ad you couldn't email, only call. I wonder if that is because the last time it was advertised they were inundated with messages from CS members?

 

[105e]

A 182 with the better phase 1 engine, seems underpriced to me.

 

[scotty xl]

sorry to hear about that sh***er of a deal!
im thinking of selling my 182 if youre still after one tho m8

 

[marcushookdale]

as said above it wouldnt be no were near as bad if the price was £1,800 or there abouts.

 

[gggshk]

It's back again: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...page/4/postcode/bs273du/radius/1500?logcode=p

 

[Matt26]

This thread is amazing.

 

[Amos91]

There's two dogs in one those pictures...

 

[MartinR]

Flol a right boomerang car.

 

[JezzaMac]

Cars in Edinburgh! If I see it il put a CS flyer on his windscreen, hopefully he signs up and has a look at this thread!

 

[Pedro19]

exhaust now looks nackered too!

 

[*Badger*]

What a read.... Shocking story, top marks to Fred for his assistance.

I had a similar issue where I had to take a 172 back and managed to get a full refund, was nowhere near as bad as this but after 3 weeks I got a full refund and they had provided me with a courtesy car whilst they tried to fix it. After 3 weeks I said enough was enough and we mutually agreed a full refund. (This was before I joined CS, I now know it was only a dephaser!)

 

[Rob_Kipper]

Reported it to Autotrader

 

[plymcl172]

I take it the engine change won't show up on a HPI check

They always say beware of super low miles.......

 

[ALY]

Cars in Edinburgh! If I see it il put a CS flyer on his windscreen, hopefully he signs up and has a look at this thread!

Its been photographed in Edinburgh but that isn't where the seller is based, according to Autotrader.

 

[MarcB]

As i say i have seen it twice in morningside road with an older guy driving with glasses

 

[Lou]

I've seen it around Sheriffhall roundabout a few times

 

[Ben_turner]

'Carefully owned. great condition inside and out body work is fantastic. Low mileage, HPI CLEAR, no accidents, electric windows and mirrors'

What a load of b****cks.lol.

 

[James1470]

Bet it has about 20 owners on it by now?? Someone should test drive it & write a big warning letter on the dash...
Like said, probably alright for £1500-£2000 but £5500 is a lot for a good one never mind a ringer!

 

[axnxdxy]

If anyone has the tools to find out how many owners and current owner/previous owner I would be interested to know where abouts I am on it. Expect to still be the previous owner tbh.

 

[R-Sport.]

ITS BACK.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../page/1/postcode/da68bu/radius/1500?logcode=p

 

[Dan...]

Such a shame because it 'looks' stunning!

 

[Alastair.]

Looks poop with silver wheels.

 

[Inequality Street]

I think it looks great. If only it was priced correctly.

 

[BoatNonce]

To be honest, the fact that it has a 172 engine wouldn't particularly bother me that much. Especially as it's a Ph.1 engine, so it's quicker anyway.

I doubt there's much power difference anyway.

 

[Gally]

It's the other issues that's the problem. And the fact a non cup packed 182 is worth £3 no matter what the colour.