Be halfway through doing them, go answer phone, come back and think you have got further than you have so end up missing a set out?
Agreed, no such thing as a guarentee with engines, especially so when used properly in anger.
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Be halfway through doing them, go answer phone, come back and think you have got further than you have so end up missing a set out?
shiftspark
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Depends, if they were wound in only hand tight initially then no, but if they were wound in fairly tight with a ratchet, and then you go back to torque them up, but one set got missed, then possibly.
No way we will ever have a definitive answer though of course, I agree with you on that, but its human nature to want to know why something has happened and hence to put forward theories to discuss, I dont see a problem with that so long as people dont misread a theory as a definitive answer.
someone out there probably will go one step further and fit those plastic holders lorry wheel nuts have, lol
No
, I was supposed to be given a folder with everything in but never happened! Will get onto it tho Roll centre do have the ability to do all that thoughHaha lol
^^^:star:
There was only a dot of paint on one of the ARP's the rest were blank
Evo 5 RS
So what's the aim engine wise this time round dude? Going forged or not bothering?
Not sure yet Mike, I have an idea of what I would like but Fred know's more than me about these engines so final spec will be left upto him and then I will see if it is affordable
Keeping both of mine just in case
I don't know what sort of events you're planning James but IIRC you only need an FIA cage for international events and maybe national A?
In national B it should be built to MSA or FIA regs but I think they just make sure it has the minimum points/bars and looks ok - no certification required.
So you may be able to chop a few bars out to save weight and then add them back in later if you move up to nat A/international. Especially seeing as you have no cert anyway.
It is very confusing best bet would be to talk to a scrut about it.
In national B it should be built to MSA or FIA regs but I think they just make sure it has the minimum points/bars and looks ok - no certification required.
So you may be able to chop a few bars out to save weight and then add them back in later if you move up to nat A/international. Especially seeing as you have no cert anyway.
It is very confusing best bet would be to talk to a scrut about it.
Yes Mark as you say very confusing! I will call Roll centre/TDF and sort out the certificate as I do need it and will also enquire about modifying it
Golf GTD Mk7
Not sure yet Mike, I have an idea of what I would like but Fred know's more than me about these engines so final spec will be left upto him and then I will see if it is affordable
Forged with standard compression and a better head for reliability, or is a power increase on the cards?
I dont think anyone sells standard CR forged pistons for these engines
If you know anyone let me know as I want to forge my turbo but dont want to get into custom pistons to get back to the same CR as on the current ones and I cant find any that are standard CR through my usual suppliers.
I dont mind over boring, just struggling to find the piston volume I require.
Might have a lead now though, just need to track down a couple of people to ask for some more details.
Sorry for the off topic Ash!
Back onto your engine, 12.5 is lowest I would go for your application personally.
As Chip says I haven't found forged with standard comp but if going down the forged route then will also up the comp for the giggles
Think I have a plan for the head already although tossing a few things around in my head but need to speak with Mr BTM when he gets back from his jollys
No worries Chip
I don't really understand what the figures mean but anything with a 12 suits me (racing number)
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
I dont think anyone sells standard CR forged pistons for these engines
Dumb question, but seeing as you know what you're doing when it comes to engines, can you not just design some & get them built?
Evo 5 RS
lol if the price was right
Maybe wossner would entertain it if you emailed them. Doubt it
Maybe wossner would entertain it if you emailed them. Doubt it
Yes no problem at all. We have done that with other engines in the past.
However my ph1 turbo I'm on about here is my cheap and cheerful car, so I don't have the budget for it. As I would sooner spend that money on my mk1 instead. The ph1 is about compromise between cost and results as its only temporary. Tbh I shouldn't even have just ordered a quiaffe diff for it really, lol, but at least they hold their value well.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
lol, you're worse than me!! I needed new top mounts for the R32, so bought coilovers, full suspension refresh/bushes/arms and tyres.
If its got to come apart, i might as well renew everything
You're right about the diff though, they're easily re-sellable!
Fuel System:
Please remember I don't have a clue about a lot of this stuff so looking for some help please
While re-doing the loom I am going to be sorting another thing on the car which is the fuel supply system as it the high pressure pump will need power I guess.
I currently have a solid fuel rail from AT Power but into it runs the standard renault fuel pipe and I worry about the connection a little so going to run the whole system in braided hose. I am going to mount the Swirl pot in the bulkhead but I believe the swirl pot has to have a return from the other end of the fuel rail which is currently blanked off. So do I need to:
Run -6 hose from In tank pump through car, into scuttle panel and then into (1) on the swirl pot
Run -6 hose from (2) on the swirl pot back into the return on the standard fuel tank (I don't think the 182 has one of these does it? Do I need a ph1 setup?)
Run -8 hose from (3) on the swirl pot to Sytec fuel pump
Run -6 hose from High pressure fuel pump to -6 fitting on fuel rail
Run -6 hose from other end of fuel rail back into (4) on the swirl pot
Does the above sound correct and do I need to run another fuel filter?
Will -6 fuel line fit onto the pipe take off on the standard renault tank fittings?
I am planning on using Aeroquip fittings as they are the most reasonable by quite a way has anyone had issues with them?
The fuel pump is rated to 9 bar fuel pressure is this enough? Do I need to add a regulated to reduce this back to renault pressure? (Sorry I really am clueless with this stuff)
Thanks for any help you can give
James
Please remember I don't have a clue about a lot of this stuff so looking for some help please
While re-doing the loom I am going to be sorting another thing on the car which is the fuel supply system as it the high pressure pump will need power I guess.
I currently have a solid fuel rail from AT Power but into it runs the standard renault fuel pipe and I worry about the connection a little so going to run the whole system in braided hose. I am going to mount the Swirl pot in the bulkhead but I believe the swirl pot has to have a return from the other end of the fuel rail which is currently blanked off. So do I need to:
Run -6 hose from In tank pump through car, into scuttle panel and then into (1) on the swirl pot
Run -6 hose from (2) on the swirl pot back into the return on the standard fuel tank (I don't think the 182 has one of these does it? Do I need a ph1 setup?)
Run -8 hose from (3) on the swirl pot to Sytec fuel pump
Run -6 hose from High pressure fuel pump to -6 fitting on fuel rail
Run -6 hose from other end of fuel rail back into (4) on the swirl pot
Does the above sound correct and do I need to run another fuel filter?
Will -6 fuel line fit onto the pipe take off on the standard renault tank fittings?
I am planning on using Aeroquip fittings as they are the most reasonable by quite a way has anyone had issues with them?
The fuel pump is rated to 9 bar fuel pressure is this enough? Do I need to add a regulated to reduce this back to renault pressure? (Sorry I really am clueless with this stuff)
Thanks for any help you can give
James
On that swirl pot I would do:
Phase 1 cradle output goes to number 1;
phase 1 cradle return goes to number 4;
High pressure pump is fed by 3; which then feeds the fuel rail
Fuel pressure reg fed by the rail return goes to number 2;
Then you want a high flow low pressure pump fuel pump in the phase 1 cradle.
You would run a 3 bar reg on the rail, a 9 bar pump is more than enough, but you need to make sure it flows enough as well, 255L an hour is the normal one people go for on a setup like this. Likewise the lift pump needs to flow similar amounts.
And also add a filter between the swirl pot and the high pressure pump.
Phase 1 cradle output goes to number 1;
phase 1 cradle return goes to number 4;
High pressure pump is fed by 3; which then feeds the fuel rail
Fuel pressure reg fed by the rail return goes to number 2;
Then you want a high flow low pressure pump fuel pump in the phase 1 cradle.
You would run a 3 bar reg on the rail, a 9 bar pump is more than enough, but you need to make sure it flows enough as well, 255L an hour is the normal one people go for on a setup like this. Likewise the lift pump needs to flow similar amounts.
And also add a filter between the swirl pot and the high pressure pump.
lol
Ohh quite differently to what I thought then lol! Right so I need to get a PH1 pickup then, also a different pump for it you mean? Also a regulator?
Do you know if the fuel pipe connectors on the PH1 pick up will take the -6 pipe mate? I would go measure but the car is dangling on axel stands and I don't fancy getting in the car to measure lol
No worries Chip thanks for your help!
Was just looking to see if anyone knows the size of outlet where the fuel tank goes into the fuel hose? A pic would be awesome if you can but no worries if not Mike
ThanksYes that's the one thanks
Yes they are unfortunately push and jubilee clip jobs aren't they! I was just wanting to make sure the -6 hose will fit onto it and then jubilee clip it to the cradle as I've seen other do before
Oooo the hose i'm going with has an I.D of 8.7mm I wonder if I will get away with it?!
Thanks mate I have seen too many fuel fires before to scrimp and save on this bit of the re-build
Thanks mate I have seen too many fuel fires before to scrimp and save on this bit of the re-build
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Just seen your new bonnet on fb..........................................lol!
Yay or Nay mate??
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Yay or Nay mate??
I can see that its not to everyone's taste, but i've seen worse! I think it looks alright mate, but then again, i would say that as i have bright green bits on my car! Lol!
Lol! Well I love it so i'm happy
Haha lol :rasp:! I didn't have any input on the design and only saw it for the first time today, Really happy with it and can't wait to see it on the car
