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M3. V8. Saloon.
- Thread starter Sir_Dave
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ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
It's a manual v8, rwd, with a diff.
Lights? Really?
Lights? Really?
Looks lovely. Saw this on M3 cutters IIRC where there was alot of chat about price of it. Looked good to me with all the usual work been done on it.
Also seen your E46 on eBay last night. Have you had much interest? I know the prices are firming up on them but genuinely interested to know if early models are generating interest for that price.
Also seen your E46 on eBay last night. Have you had much interest? I know the prices are firming up on them but genuinely interested to know if early models are generating interest for that price.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Yeah, there was loads of chat about the price lol, was originally up for £19,995, but i agreed way less than that with him from the outset. I dont mind paying good money for cars though if needs be, the e46 M3 was probably overpriced as well (i paid £11k), but i loved the colour combo and history etc.
I had quite a bit of interest off the forum without even advertising it actually, people offering anything between £9-£10k unseen, i would have put it up privately for £10,495-£10,995 id imagine, to sell for perhaps £10,250. However, in order to achieve that i would have needed to fit 2 x new rear continentals (i hate unmatched tyres), front wishbone rear bushes & perhaps some other bushes for it to drive perfectly (there was an ever so slight looseness over speedbumps), the BM54 crackled occasionally & both front foglights were steaming up, so id have spent perhaps £500 and some of my time. I'm a firm believer in only selling cars in perfect working order privately, especially when the existing provenance is so good & its priced towards the top end of the market.
In addition, to sell privately i would have have to deal with a great many cretins, time wasters & potential criminals, which i simply couldnt be bothered with, it also means having people come to view the car during the day, at work, where id rather be earning money lol. So with that in mind, i sold it to the specialist trader on M3cutters, i knew he would sell it straight away for a nice profit margin, but he'd also have to stand by it warranty wise and deal with all the numpties. We conversed via pm, he paid in advance, then turned up, checked it had 4 wheels and drove off within 10 minutes. Easy peasy and worth the approx £500-£750 that i didnt make from selling privately :up:
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Oh I see. Didnt realise it was EKP who brought it. Looked a lovely colour combo.
Did you consider the B7 RS4 at all? I have had an E93 M3 (DCT mind) and I just didnt get on with the engine as a daily. I now have a B7 and its a superb all round car. It reminds me of an old MK4 R in terms of power delivery (low down grunt in every gear with a beautifull sound). I've seen a few posts of yours about the MK5, so maybe worth trying one out in the future, depending on how you get along with the E90
Did you consider the B7 RS4 at all? I have had an E93 M3 (DCT mind) and I just didnt get on with the engine as a daily. I now have a B7 and its a superb all round car. It reminds me of an old MK4 R in terms of power delivery (low down grunt in every gear with a beautifull sound). I've seen a few posts of yours about the MK5, so maybe worth trying one out in the future, depending on how you get along with the E90
Just seen you on M3Cutters and thought "ooh I wonder if that's the same sir dave!" lol
Nice car that mate, I've got an E46 M3 Convertible SMG now. Had it for nearly 2 years.
Nice car that mate, I've got an E46 M3 Convertible SMG now. Had it for nearly 2 years.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Yeah, was easier to just sell to Jenks/EKP, not sure its for sale on the forum yet. Yes, did consider the B& RS4 quite a bit, but in the end decided that i wanted something a bit more modern and am simply used to BMW infotainment systems etc, im a BMW man really as well, cant deny it :tonguewink: Ill be honest, i love the delivery of the e90 so far, seems more than quick enough on my daily 30mph grind, 15mpg is pretty lolworthy though haha!!!
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Yup, 'tis me, i thought it might have been you with that grey cab, then i went on POT and it was confirmed!
Why did you buy a cab though, mid life crisis i assume 😂 Does look lovely to be fair!!
I don't dislike it, just leaves me a bit cold Dave, I was never a massive E9X M3 fan, always felt they were a tad too sedate never felt that excited at high speeds compared with other cars, having been in a coupe and saloon, more the coupe in fairness, i'm maybe missing the point of the car all told.
However your one is rather nice, the colour is classy and I know you're a massive M3 fan.
However your one is rather nice, the colour is classy and I know you're a massive M3 fan.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
I know what you mean i think, although i see the mini as my "fun" car as you can enjoy that at legal speeds.
This is just for the noise if im entirely honest 😂
Todays neighborly wake up call ...
This is just for the noise if im entirely honest 😂
Todays neighborly wake up call ...
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Opportunities to actually do that are limited on a daily basis. But I don't think folks buy an m3 for it to be massively exciting on the commute.
You buy them for those times when you can push it. Day to day, it just slips into your life like a slightly angry 330.
i was going to post pretty much exactly what you have. How a high revving lightweight v8 rwd can be sedate I don't know. An mine gets plenty of 8.5k
Rich-D
ClioSport Club Member
E90 LCI 330d
That was one thing I never really liked on my E90 either, the reverse section stands out like mad IMO
I bet I would be doing the exact same thing, revving the nuts off it as much as possible.with a massive smile on my face. People are banging on about the new m3 being way more usable ect and I don't doubt one bit, but that v8 is a hooligan and in noise and response dep the new f80 can't touch it. My hero car atm.
I've got nothing against the new f80 I just find it annoying how the owners of them keep banging on how all previous M cars have a lack of torque. I doubt the latest M car would have even been turbo'd if it weren't for emissions regulations
Nope. They have just under 300 lbs/ft which is the same as the 335i and people comment how torquey they are. Yes it is low down but still with the v8 isn't it like 90% at 3k RPM or something? Far from gutless anyway.
Rich-D
ClioSport Club Member
E90 LCI 330d
It's not 'gutless', but compared to say an E39 M5, it's got much less low end grunt and has a more dramatic top end, totally different character and needs to be revved to exploit the performance, not really comparable to a boosted 6 pot to be fair, the V8 sounds infinitely better IMO.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
This. The V8 isn't a torquey lump, it's got a very different feel to the e39 for example. And in terms of torque to weight ratio, it's hardly better than the e46.
In comparison, the f80 feels like a monster!
But I'd still take an e90 or e46 over an f80 as a drivers car.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Thats what i always say i guess, & what i always find to be wrong with any non M, i miss the angriness of "the engine".
For me, that is the major issue with the latest turbo'd ones, they just sound like an M135i crossed with a lawnmower.
The problem with massive torque low down is traction though, fine when you have 4wd, but the M135i struggled, so goodness only knows what the M3/M4 are like. Ive never driven an e39 M5, but id imagine that to be like a gruntier version of the e90, where the power is easy to modulate/more linear than the turbo'd cars low down.
Id like to drive one, but i just cant get excited about them.
Had an official "cold-start off" with a neighbour this morning (he was unaware as he's not a geek), but as per my old e46, the e90 wins handsdown. The latest one just sounds awful. My street is now ///M powered though, my e90 M3, two M4's and an F10 M5. The M5 is just epic!
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
E39 is a great drive. Shrinks around you, but it's much more relaxed than an e46/90. Engine is lovely, but again really laid back compared to the e90.
The f80 is strange. It feels like it was developed for a less potent lump, and then the turbo was bolted on at the end.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
TBH, you can't go far wrong with any M3/M5 from the last 10 years.
Tell that to cookie. [emoji23]
Looks great, 4 exhausts ruin it tho.
Stefan.
ClioSport Club Member
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
This has the right cylinder:tail pipe ratio.
A Golf R does not. 1:1 is genuinely laughable!
A Golf R does not. 1:1 is genuinely laughable!
BMW M4; S1000 RR
The thought of that ratio on a Focus ST!
Evo 5 RS
Giant bean cans for pauper 4 pot hands. None of the multi tailpipe riff-raff :smiley:
The car is fine, I'm the problem. How's your 80 thousand part build by post Scoob going?
Fantastic. [emoji106]
Saloon > all. Love it!
Rich-D
ClioSport Club Member
E90 LCI 330d
This, the current turbocharged M3 & M4 sound w**k in comparison, I just cannot get excited about them, the older normally aspirated versions sound much better, even when you get an aftermarket exhaust on the newer cars. :down:
The E39 M5 has masses of low end grunt and did struggle for traction, they only have a 7k rpm redline, so quite low for an ///M car, but it was literally a solid band of grin from idle to the limiter and even when I got that remapped 330d as a daily, the M5 never felt lacking in torque, which says a lot! The E39 is a bigger, heavier & more softly setup car though, with a completely different character, but I always felt the E90 M3 manual would be more of a natural progression for me than an E60 M5 would, will get one at some point, E90 > E92 as well IMO, but I'd have either.
Cold start in my M5 was brutal, it had a full Milltek system with sports cats though, the wife hated it, most of the neighbours probably did as well, fcuk em! You definitely need to unleash the V8 noise on your M3, even modding the standard backboxes sounds good.
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