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Be a Ktec system aswell I expect.
So just another over priced cheap stainless system that the mounts will fall off and the tail pipes will be 2ft long.
I'm quite keen to see how long the engines last with Ktec maps on them. Watch them all expire before the end of the first race lol
So just another over priced cheap stainless system that the mounts will fall off and the tail pipes will be 2ft long.
I'm quite keen to see how long the engines last with Ktec maps on them. Watch them all expire before the end of the first race lol
I expect they've sponsored a lot of the Setup costs. I did see something between RSTuning and Ktec a while ago and David had a pop at Paul saying he must still hold a grudge about not securing the deal...
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plus seeked tuning specialists knowledge of the add ons and common upgrades to determine the 182 cup choice, its not been a guess.
So chose the top best performance Clio, its also the most up to date.
this is what throws me... From what this says, the have chosen the "optimum" clio. So by this logic anyone who enters in any other mk2 clio is knowingly running a less competitive car thus hindering themselfs. So why is this an issue? If people think they can win in a "lesser spec" car, let them!
plus seeked tuning specialists knowledge of the add ons and common upgrades to determine the 182 cup choice, its not been a guess.
So chose the top best performance Clio, its also the most up to date.
this is what throws me... From what this says, the have chosen the "optimum" clio. So by this logic anyone who enters in any other mk2 clio is knowingly running a less competitive car thus hindering themselfs. So why is this an issue? If people think they can win in a "lesser spec" car, let them!
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Lol. Good point.
Chase Racing Clio
Totally agree with this. Our car is still standard 172 ph2 (apart from the modification to the subframe we made and polycarb side windows); still on standard power with 15 inch wheels, standard brake setup with uprated pads, standard transmission, off the shelf coilovers and a very much standard ECU. The only thing that has really changed is we made a cold air box in place of the normal air filter housing...... And I bet it's quicker than any of the cars that get built using the regs given for this 182 series.
A "cheap" entry level series needs to be that.... and not a marketing exercise for a company. You could easily just set out what you are and aren't allowed to modify on ph2 172s and 182s, like a list of allowed coilovers and a couple of control tyres. Then, an allowance on items that might affect the weight, so this would include keeping the standard dash, not chopping bits out of the door etc. Then of course, standard transmission and standard ECU. Perhaps also split it in to 2 classes, 172 and 182 and away you go.
I doubt this was the response the OP was expecting lol.
Looking at the fiesta championship, they have mountune performance packs. However, these are optional.
LYV6, 182, R5GTT
24th and 25th of August
LYV6, 182, R5GTT
Exhaust is free from cat back...
Same weekend that tony at landow!
p@blo
ClioSport Club Member
Clio/A3
So it seems they could actually have opted for a similar ruling with the management as per the mr2 series?
CS Dungeon
I make it not just the management...................
Class A: Mk1 2.0ltr Williams
Class B: Mk2 Ph1 172
Class C: Mk2 Ph2 172/182
Engine
Engines may only be prepared within the specifications laid down in Renault's workshop manual. All engine internals must be standard or standard pattern parts and the factory ECU must be retained. Induction and exhaust systems are free (excluding manifolds).
Suspension
Suspension is free but may not be adjustable, with the exception of anti-roll bars. Uprated dampers, lowered springs and polyurethane bushes may be used.
Brakes
Brake disks must remain standard or standard pattern while brake pad material is free. Braided brake hoses may be used and ABS systems where fitted as standard may be retained.
Transmission
Standard gearbox, gear ratios and final drive must be retained.
Wheels
Wheels must be standard diameter, width and offset for each class of vehicle.
Simples.............. No?! :S
p@blo
ClioSport Club Member
Clio/A3
182cup & 172 racecar
As I said earlier today.
Depends if they're relying on their dyno being accurate. Lol
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
Seems to me that 750 and ktec have started this series for a gap in the market that isn't there.
Simple logic would suggest that starting a Clio race series, the first point of research would be the worlds biggest Clio forum that already contains several successful Clio race Teams.
And tony hunter.
Simple logic would suggest that starting a Clio race series, the first point of research would be the worlds biggest Clio forum that already contains several successful Clio race Teams.
And tony hunter.
182cup & 172 racecar
Lol!. Hi.
Adds 40bhp iirc
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Just wow to Ktec's efforts.
Shame as 750MC couldn't have been wider of the mark if they'd tried to write the regs solo.
Shame as 750MC couldn't have been wider of the mark if they'd tried to write the regs solo.
182cup & 172 racecar
Let's not turn this into another Ktec slating thread, that's not what it's all about.
Just think 750mc have listened to the wrong people about what, and what wouldn't be a good idea.
Just think 750mc have listened to the wrong people about what, and what wouldn't be a good idea.
182cup & 172 racecar
I just want to reinforce that 750MC is a very well ran motorclub and one of the oldest in the U.K with some of the most popular race series. Top boys and girls just incase anyone was thinking differently
I wasn't saying otherwise Sam, a lot of people started racing with them.
I just think it is an opportunity missed.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Absolute opportunity missed. How many on here wold already be at least halfway to having a car that could compete if the rules were rewritten similar to what Anonymous posted above. If I did still have my 172 Cup that would have been exactly what I was waiting for.
Will also echo comments about the 750MC. Always been a good club from what I've read/heard.
182cup & 172 racecar
That's why French Trophy is going to succeed.
WRX
I'm sure there's a few on here that could be tempted, if it was using almost standard cars. But to splash out the best part of £2k, on what most would deem unnecessary parts just seems ridiculous. If it was just a case of strip the car, fit a cage, cutoff and extinguisher and get suited and licensed, I'd be seriously looking into it. As it is though - no thanks. I think for that money, I could make a quicker car for another series. For the record I love other 750 events too.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
I agree on it being a huge shame, it's the sort of thing I'd get involved I next year if it were more like I outlined.
A cheap way into racing, where you won't be out spent by competitors, giving you a decent chance.
A cheap way into racing, where you won't be out spent by competitors, giving you a decent chance.
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