You'd think that, but never works out that way. I've long since ignored that, having to pay more for Kindle books than real ones
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You'd think that, but never works out that way. I've long since ignored that, having to pay more for Kindle books than real ones
Evo 5 RS
The digital books costing more than physical ones is because of VAT I think, there's vat on digital downloads, not on paper ones.
digital download games won't ever be less than rrp as they don't want to piss off the retail stores who sell most of the products for them.
Forced Kinect, erm, connection still has me very wary of this. My XBox is set up in the study and runs through the PC monitor on my desk, I can't see Kinect working (or being able to sit anywhere) in that situation and they've been pretty vague about how it will have to be used, can I just throw it down the back of my desk, connected but forever ignored?
You can disable it IIRC
Nissan 350z
http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/20/amazon-uk-xbox-one-pre-orders-pass-ps4-after-drm-u-turn/
Well looks like Xbox One will be "the" console again next gen.
Well looks like Xbox One will be "the" console again next gen.
UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
Crikey.
Gavin.
ClioSport Club Member
That's only because there are various different bundles and editions of the ps4 and only one of the Xbox 180. Add all the different ps4 bundles up and they are ahead of the Xbox one.
A bit misleading that report really.
A bit misleading that report really.
I haven't heard the word Crikey since my late Grandfather Jack (RIP) saw his new nurse whilst in Southmead Hospital circa 1993.
In reality I don't think it means a f**king thing
UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
Crumbs.
Digital purchases are the future. I don't know why anyone would want to clutter up their house with physical copies. I can't remember the last time I installed a PC game from an optical drive.
However, always connected games can be a huge pain in the ass. People are all like "no problem for me, my internets is super awesome". Yeah that's nice. What happens when the servers go down?
However, always connected games can be a huge pain in the ass. People are all like "no problem for me, my internets is super awesome". Yeah that's nice. What happens when the servers go down?
R26
And what about people who have s**t Internet? It would takes months for me to download a 30GB game!!
Can't wait until I move into my house though, 120mb ftw!
Can't wait until I move into my house though, 120mb ftw!
Exactly, declaring the winner of next gen console war at this point is premature on the level of a CS Virgin.
TBF the notion of a "winner" is just bent anyway IMO. All I care about is the games I get to play. Sales figures are of no concern.
CBR1K, F21 125D
Jeepers.
UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
With this in mind, your point above about the digital era is moot.
People don't care about figures, using a disc, using cloud, connecting to the internet every 24 hours etc. etc.
They care about the games they are playing. That's where most folk want to see improvements in almost every aspect of gaming.
See: SimCity launch
You'll have to clarify that for me mate? My point about not caring who "wins" is entirely separate from the digital download thing. As someone who's been doing it on PC for years, I am aware of the huge advantages it offers over buying physical copies. Although it does sometimes have drawbacks also. Well, when I say sometimes, I mean with any game published by Electronic Arts.
UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
TBH, I don't know what the f*ck I'm talking about.
M$ backing down from their original stance has perhaps increased their popularity and sales figures, but losing the digital aspect that sounded so incredible must be a real negative, not only for them, but for everyone as far as future proofing is concerned. The sharing function I thought was clever, even if it was limited.
R26
Yeh but that was because EA were involved, and they're a bunch of retards tbh.
Evo 5 RS
Only 88 here.
It's difficult to gauge where or not the u-turn is good or bad at this stage. Simply making games available offline permanently would be enough really IMO.
It is funny though, they were always saying how integral and important the DRM system is to the OS.
It's difficult to gauge where or not the u-turn is good or bad at this stage. Simply making games available offline permanently would be enough really IMO.
It is funny though, they were always saying how integral and important the DRM system is to the OS.
Crikey I haven't heard the word crumbs since my Grandmother Phylis saw my late Grandfather Jack eating the most wonderfully crumbly apple crumble in Wimpy circa 1992.
Evo 5 RS
You know there don't have to be crumbs for you to coin the phrase, right? lol. I feel sorry for the person that shat out Ayda
Golly Gosh! Thats new to me (that maybe sarcasm)
Evo 5 RS
Jee Wizz! You don't say
I thought those Amazon charts only tracked orders made in the last 7 days or so? It'd make sense that the Xbox 180 had overtaken PS4 preorders in that time.
Also: lolz at Microsoft not wanting to piss off retailers - isn't that exactly what their DRM system was meant to do in the first place?
I don't like the tone of this, but I agree with the sentiment:
Evo 5 RS
All valid points
terryc101
ClioSport Club Member
Lots of rumours going about that the 'family sharing' feature where you could share the game with people on your friends list would actually only allow them a 60min trial, not to have the full game as and when they like.
No, even with drm you had to sell it back to a retailer who then sold it on to the next person, it's just as part of that sale the publisher got a cut, something they don't get at the moment.
Think about how many games a company like Walmart in the us will sell for the publishers, and amazon etc.
I wasn't aware any charges relating to what the retailer was going to pay were ever published. Should probably stop listening to the rumour sites.
Been sort of confirmed really..
This is taken from a Pasebin entitled 'Heartbroken MS employee' found here: http://pastebin.com/TE1MWES2
But the whole timer thing has been confirmed by a trustworth leaker over on NeoGaf, going by the name of 'crazy buttocks on a train' or CBOAT.
Lol, no it wasn't, you certainly misinterpreted that one. There was a figure of £35 floating around, this was claimed to be the total price someone would pay for a second hand game after all the fees had been to all parties involved. The retailer cut was definitely going to be smaller, but mover concrete was ever released around it.
Hondata'd EP3 Type R
So Family sharing wasn't actually all that good? Just another way to get someone to buy another overpriced digital version of the game?
I cannot believe the cheek of the developers trying to gain money from the sale of used games. Thats like me buying a Brand new Renault Clio 200T, and Renault expected some of the money when I sell it on. C#nts.
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