PhillipM Engineered Dogbone - Finally a proper clever solution.

[davo172]

I didn't like them on a road car so did the above was perfect for me.

Do my idea first just change big bush to powerflex if all ok leave it if not fit small one later

 

[hopgop1]

Apologies for resurrecting this thread, does anyone know where I can buy these bushes? Ideally already in a dogbone so I don't have to mess around with removing the old bushes.

 

[Clio_fool]

Apologies for resurrecting this thread, does anyone know where I can buy these bushes? Ideally already in a dogbone so I don't have to mess around with removing the old bushes.

I'm sure @PhillipM said his supplier shut and he was tweaking the design for new material. That was a while back though. If you ant get one I'd go with an evol engineering one. I've run both and couldn't tell the difference.

 

[PhillipM]

Yea I did redo the design for some better material with even less NVH - but it pushed the price up some so I didn't really push them, plus I haven't been working really bar odd jobs for half the year due to some surgery.

 

[hopgop1]

Yea I did redo the design for some better material with even less NVH - but it pushed the price up some so I didn't really push them, plus I haven't been working really bar odd jobs for half the year due to some surgery.

No worries, saw this thread a while back, I'm less than happy with the NVH from the powerflex one on mine atm and would rather not go back to standard as she drives brilliantly at the min (how much of that is the dogbone I don't know).

I'm sure @PhillipM said his supplier shut and he was tweaking the design for new material. That was a while back though. If you ant get one I'd go with an evol engineering one. I've run both and couldn't tell the difference.

Know where I can get one of those evol ones mate?

 

[PhillipM]

If you're not happy with the NVH from the powerflex I think you'd be even worse with the Evol

 

[hopgop1]

If you're not happy with the NVH from the powerflex I think you'd be even worse with the Evol

Ah, assumed it was a similar thing, their website looks like it was made in a teenagers bedroom 20 years ago which didn't help.
Any other alternatives or am I at your mercy?

 

[PhillipM]

I'm not sure what else there is out there, someone might have some other options, I think I do have a new dogbone somewhere, but I can't remember where I stored it, I'll have a look and see if I can find it or not.

 

[hopgop1]

I'm not sure what else there is out there, someone might have some other options, I think I do have a new dogbone somewhere, but I can't remember where I stored it, I'll have a look and see if I can find it or not.

Would really appreciate it, cheers.

 

[Bluebeard]

Ah, assumed it was a similar thing, their website looks like it was made in a teenagers bedroom 20 years ago which didn't help.
Any other alternatives or am I at your mercy?

I’ve got the very first Evol dog bone mount. They even sent me a letter to say thanks for buying the very first one. 😂

 

[hopgop1]

I’ve got the very first Evol dog bone mount. They even sent me a letter to say thanks for buying the very first one. 😂

More of a track oriented item I assume then? Mine's purely a road car and I'd like to try and reduce the vibrations in the cabin a bit before I go chasing little rattles all over the car.

 

[Bluebeard]

More of a track oriented item I assume then? Mine's purely a road car and I'd like to try and reduce the vibrations in the cabin a bit before I go chasing little rattles all over the car.

I can’t honestly remember if it’s on my car or my van. Both rattle their tits off anyway so I wouldn’t be able to tell. 😂

 

[davo172]

Solution to this it's either rotate the big bush in the existing std dogbone 45 deg you will see why when you look at the bush. (Needs removing to do this)
Worth a try first.
Or just fit the big powerflex bush to the dogbone and leave the small one std this works well none of the movement but without the vibration may get a little initially but this will settle after a few weeks.

 

[hopgop1]

Solution to this it's either rotate the big bush in the existing std dogbone 45 deg you will see why when you look at the bush. (Needs removing to do this)
Worth a try first.
Or just fit the big powerflex bush to the dogbone and leave the small one std this works well none of the movement but without the vibration may get a little initially but this will settle after a few weeks.

Sounds like a good option then if @PhillipM doesn't have one lying around.

 

[imprezaworks]

I set up group buys ages ago for the evil mounts. I would say most were very happy.

 

[Darryl_1983]

No worries, saw this thread a while back, I'm less than happy with the NVH from the powerflex one on mine atm and would rather not go back to standard as she drives brilliantly at the min (how much of that is the dogbone I don't know).

Know where I can get one of those evol ones mate?

I had an Evol on one of my 182's quite a few years ago, and took it off after about a week. it was dreadful. However, a powerflex upgrade dogbone and engine mount insert, are one of the first mods I'd usually do on a 182 now. I've only ever had a very small increase in vibration and noise with these, most of the time it wasn't noticeable, in fact I remember being shocked after my experience with the Evol mount.

Are you using the Black track version or Purple road version?

Might be worth checking the condition of your other mounts too, as the stiffness added to the dogbone, could maybe cause extra vibration is the two upper mounts on the gearbox and engine if they're worn.

There is also Floflex, think there a Polish company that do bushes for the 182 dogbone. Not sure if they're any softer.

 

[hopgop1]

It's got a yellow top engine mount insert, not sure on the rest of the mounts. 99% sure the dogbone itself is purple bushes, car has also had powerflex steering rack bushes and some other stuff, all purple though I believe.
@PhillipM is kindly sorting me out, so will fit that and go from there.

 

[imprezaworks]

When I ran various ones. The insert along with an uprated mount was harsh.

 

[Tin.tin]

Anyone want some brand new Firstline bushes? I only bought them to use the housings, have two sets. Free if you collect 'em, or cover the postage.

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Would you recommend this for OE replacement? Searched everywhere for a febi but can't seem to find a match for my 182 anywhere

 

[R3k1355]

Genuine Renault was where I last managed to get a proper 182 Dogbone, lots of places will try and sell you one off a 1.2 because it's pretty similar and their system thinks it's fine, but it's not.

I found the vibrations from a poly dogbone were abit annoying on a daily driver

 

[Tin.tin]

Genuine Renault was where I last managed to get a proper 182 Dogbone, lots of places will try and sell you one off a 1.2 because it's pretty similar and their system thinks it's fine, but it's not.

I found the vibrations from a poly dogbone were abit annoying on a daily driver

When & how much did it set you back from Renault? also have you found any alternatives?

Yeah vibrations don't do these any favours with the quality of trim etc

 

[Autolaca82]

La solución a esto es girar el buje grande en el dogbone estándar existente 45 grados. Verá por qué cuando mire el buje. (Es necesario quitarlo para hacer esto)
Vale la pena intentarlo primero.
O simplemente ajuste el buje Powerflex grande al dogbone y deje el pequeño estándar, esto funciona bien, no se mueve nada, pero sin la vibración, puede que al principio se altere un poco, pero esto se resolverá después de algunas semanas.

¿Tienes alguna foto de eso?

Es fácil hacerlo ??? Explica un poco detallado sobre ello… gracias !!!!

 

[PhillipM]

Would you recommend this for OE replacement? Searched everywhere for a febi but can't seem to find a match for my 182 anywhere

Sorry I missed this, they're softer than a 172/182 OE bush, but fine for replacing a shot one, I think I've got half a dozen pairs of these if anyone does want them, I was clearing out earlier and was gonna bin them but thought I'd check here just in case.

 

[R3k1355]

Lots of peoples original mounts will be wearing out, you should be able to shift them easily enough?