Power Tool Perverts

[JamesBryan]

Sound, aye they seem to be quite scarce in the UK. Anything I see is US based and I know I'll get my face raped with import fees

Aye, think Dan imported his. That guy gets a load in at once so it's worth while.

 

[Krarl]

Dropped him a message, see what he says. Even getting one shipped from the US theyre about £35 anyway with the risk of import fees🙄😂

 

[Joe#]

Finally got a case for all 3 instead of carrying the b******s separate 😂

I'm a big fan of the packout range.

It's easy to get carried away just like the tools too 😂

 

[JamesBryan]

I'm a big fan of the packout range.

It's easy to get carried away just like the tools too 😂

Yeah it's brilliant mate.

 

[MLB]

Since this has turned more into a Milwaukee thread I'll ask my questions here.

Mainly interested in the stubby impact wrench and m12 ratchet, would I be best to get these in 3/8"? I've got a 1/2" makita impact wrench.

The die grinder looks brilliant for rust removal (rear beam, undercarriage etc) but would it be worth getting when I already have a corded dremel? Would the dremel take the same sanding discs?

 

[dann2707]

Since this has turned more into a Milwaukee thread I'll ask my questions here.

Mainly interested in the stubby impact wrench and m12 ratchet, would I be best to get these in 3/8"? I've got a 1/2" makita impact wrench.

The die grinder looks brilliant for rust removal (rear beam, undercarriage etc) but would it be worth getting when I already have a corded dremel? Would the dremel take the same sanding discs?

100% get it in 3/8 mate, they are great for smaller jobs where access can be tight. I got it in these because I have significantly more 3/8 sockets, they're small in size in comparison to 1/2.

It really is a match made in heaven having those two tools for Dismantling and assembling/fitting bits and then use the 1/2 big boi for the stubborn bolts and big jobs.

I genuinely can't stress how much those two tools have helped me when working on cars.

 

[Krarl]

Aye get it in the 3/8

Got mine the other day and put it to use straight away, mint little tool. Deffo the tool to have for a weekend warrior doing little bits and bats

 

[jameswrx]

Since this has turned more into a Milwaukee thread I'll ask my questions here.

Mainly interested in the stubby impact wrench and m12 ratchet, would I be best to get these in 3/8"? I've got a 1/2" makita impact wrench.

The die grinder looks brilliant for rust removal (rear beam, undercarriage etc) but would it be worth getting when I already have a corded dremel? Would the dremel take the same sanding discs?

Seems logical to get a 3/8” if you’ve got a 1/2” already but then again if you’re equipped with 1/2” sockets there’s no reason not have it in 1/2” I guess.

If you do go 3/8” I’d recommend getting some deep or semi deep impact sockets though. They do fit in smaller spaces but you might find your makita actually fits and works with a shallow socket whereas the Milwaukee has no nose poke so bare in mind if you’re trying to poke it in somewhere the flat front is in line with your hand and means it’s not as practical as you might think.

Pretty cool little beasts though, mine looks beat already (no boots available when I got it). Battery tech has certainly moved on these days, have the 6.0amp battery and it lasts ages.

 

[MLB]

Thanks for the info guys!

I've only got a standard Halfords 175ish piece tool box for sockets at te moment which contain only 1/2 inch impact sockets so @jameswrx good tip for the (semi) deep impact set for the 3/8. If you had to choose, which would you get, deep or semi deep?

Any particular set/brand recommended for 3/8 impact sockets?

 

[dann2707]

Thanks for the info guys!

I've only got a standard Halfords 175ish piece tool box for sockets at te moment which contain only 1/2 inch impact sockets so @jameswrx good tip for the (semi) deep impact set for the 3/8. If you had to choose, which would you get, deep or semi deep?

Any particular set/brand recommended for 3/8 impact sockets?

I would get both. I have shallow and deep sockets. They were both cheap at around £25 a set thst covers everything I need

 

[Krarl]

You can never have too many tools

Just buy every different type of each size😂

 

[JamesBryan]

Thanks for the info guys!

I've only got a standard Halfords 175ish piece tool box for sockets at te moment which contain only 1/2 inch impact sockets so @jameswrx good tip for the (semi) deep impact set for the 3/8. If you had to choose, which would you get, deep or semi deep?

Any particular set/brand recommended for 3/8 impact sockets?

I got these when I bought my 3/8 stubby.

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Not cheap but not expensive either

 

[MLB]

You can never have too many tools

Just buy every different type of each size😂

36-80mm socket set, could use those instead of 15" wheels if you have a puncture.

 

[MLB]

I got these when I bought my 3/8 stubby.

FFX.co.uk > ITS.co.uk | Official UK Superstore for Tools, DeWalt, Makita & Milwaukee.

FFX Tools are now in administration. The Domain FFX.co.uk has been purchased by ITS.co.uk ITS is your home or tools and is perfectly set up to continue to service all your orders and needs that you would have previously received from FFX tools. Folkestone Fixings is not longer operable. Now...

www.ffx.co.uk

Not cheap but not expensive either

I was looking at that one!

And maybe something like this https://www.toolstoday.co.uk/frankl...mi-deep-thin-wall-impact-socket-set-3-8-drive

as @Pudding of Yorkshire said, better have ALL the sizes!

 

[Flat Eric]

I got these when I bought my 3/8 stubby.

FFX.co.uk > ITS.co.uk | Official UK Superstore for Tools, DeWalt, Makita & Milwaukee.

FFX Tools are now in administration. The Domain FFX.co.uk has been purchased by ITS.co.uk ITS is your home or tools and is perfectly set up to continue to service all your orders and needs that you would have previously received from FFX tools. Folkestone Fixings is not longer operable. Now...

www.ffx.co.uk

Not cheap but not expensive either

Good value those for what they are.

I can see me buying an impact gun soon. Only problem is I'll want the M12 stubby but the drills I have for DIY are both M18.
It's a slippery slope once I go down the M12 route. Heated jacket 😂😂

 

[Krarl]

I've got 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 sockets in short, medium and deep length, chrome and impact of all types too😂😂

Honestly Halfords and US Pro have been good for me and I'm a right abusive c**t when it comes to tools😂 90% of my hand tackle is cheap stuff, I just have a few snap-on/Bahco/Teng bits that I've found on jobs😂😂

 

[clio_ross]

Thanks for the info guys!

I've only got a standard Halfords 175ish piece tool box for sockets at te moment which contain only 1/2 inch impact sockets so @jameswrx good tip for the (semi) deep impact set for the 3/8. If you had to choose, which would you get, deep or semi deep?

Any particular set/brand recommended for 3/8 impact sockets?

I bought a 3/8” to 1/2“ adapter so I can use my 1/2” deep sockets and allow wheel sockets with mines. Worthwhile investment for under £5 and makes it even more versatile.

 

[MLB]

Heated jacket

I'm going to Anglesey next Sunday and already wish I'd bought the makita heated jacket!

@Pudding of Yorkshire I've broken a couple of Halfords advanced things and their lifetime warranty is brilliant!

 

[Krarl]

I'm going to Anglesey next Sunday and already wish I'd bought the makita heated jacket!

@Pudding of Yorkshire I've broken a couple of Halfords advanced things and their lifetime warranty is brilliant!

Aye it is mate. My 13mm flexi ratchet spanner is getting a bit cacked now

 

[jameswrx]

I did buy some deep 3/8” Bosch impact sockets but the set misses a 14 & 18 out, they are really well made though and a lot thinner than most cheap impact sockets.

Otherwise my stuff is snap on impact wise (shorter ones and I have the wobble ones etc)

I’d never actually bothered with deep 3/8” impacts before the Milwaukee but did find I needed them when I got it going from my snap on impact gun. I try not to get credit with my snap on dealer but the cash deal on a 3/8 deep set was crap.

I would say though these days there really isn’t that many bad cheap tools out there. When I was young it seemed unless the ratchets and sockets were snap on or Mac they were like xmas cracker stuff.

Think it’s ‘Expert’ (ex draper expert) I handled some stuff the other day, looked really good actually. Pretty sure it’s something to do with one of the bigger brands (was it Facom or blue point?)

But then again I’ve had a set of flex head Halfords ratchet spanners for donkeys. I think they originally made them really well and may have changed. Back when I got them sure the snap on ones were still these horrible weird flat plate looking things. I bought a set of Mac flexi ratchet spanners years later to ‘upgrade’ and I’ve broken loads of the Mac ones and not one of the Halfords ones has broken ever!

 

[Krarl]

Blue point are still snap on but with a different name

Draper are Britool or King Dick if youre really old😂

 

[Louis]

Pardon our interruption...

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I got these with my 3/8" stubby. Theyve been fantastic!

 

[MLB]

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I got these with my 3/8" stubby. Theyve been fantastic!

I thought that chrome vanadium sockets weren't exactly suitable for impact use because they're more likely to shatter on an impact wrench?

 

[JamesBryan]

I thought that chrome vanadium sockets weren't exactly suitable for impact use because they're more likely to shatter on an impact wrench?

Chrome Vanadium is the type of metal, not the actual finish.

Although typically most sockets are then plated in a chrome finish, which adds to the confusion.

 

[MLB]

I thought that chrome vanadium was too brittle for impact use hence special sets made of chrome molybdenum which flexes and bends instead of shattering?

That US PRO set is made of chrome vanadium according to the description and as seen on the sockets (picture 5).

Heat treating and tempering will only make the material more prone to shattering or not?

 

[jameswrx]

Blue point are still snap on but with a different name

Draper are Britool or King Dick if youre really old😂

That’s it, Britool makes expert (former draper expert to get away from draper name) Under same banner as Facom too?

Pretty sure modern blue point stuff is just rebranded Chinese stuff like laser etc? Certainly looks very similar to all the other cheaper tools with the blue point name just stuck on. I have a few bits and just looks like the stuff you’d find in the motor factors on the wall of shame.

 

[JamesBryan]

I always understood that chrome vanadium was too brittle for impact use hence special sets made of chrome molybdenum which flexes and bends instead of shattering?

That US PRO set is made of chrome vanadium according to the description and as seen on the sockets (picture 5).

Heat treating and tempering will only make the material more prone to shattering or not?

Ahh yeah, you're right.

My Teng ones are CR-MO I think.

 

[Krarl]

That’s it, Britool makes expert (former draper expert to get away from draper name) Under same banner as Facom too?

Pretty sure modern blue point stuff is just rebranded Chinese stuff like laser etc? Certainly looks very similar to all the other cheaper tools with the blue point name just stuck on. I have a few bits and just looks like the stuff you’d find in the motor factors on the wall of shame.

Facom and Bahco are good quality without busting your pockets wide open. Blue point and snap on new stuff is pretty poor from what I've seen of my mates gear and they've even resorted to copying Milwaukee. Imagine being one of the biggest hand tool manufacturers and half arsed copying ideas from other 'smaller' tool manufacturers😂 I keep showing my mate my Mileaukee stuff, he's easily spent 20 grand on strap-on shite

The old Snap-on stuff is good enough to survive the apocalypse.

 

[Louis]

I thought that chrome vanadium was too brittle for impact use hence special sets made of chrome molybdenum which flexes and bends instead of shattering?

That US PRO set is made of chrome vanadium according to the description and as seen on the sockets (picture 5).

Heat treating and tempering will only make the material more prone to shattering or not?

I mean I've ugga duggad the arse out of them and they're absolutely fine.

 

[MLB]

Haha I suppose they wouldn't be in business anymore if they weren't any good, that's good to hear! I was just wondering because my normal set is chrome vanadium which would save me buying a new set or sockets entirely if they're usable.

I may need to do some more homework anyway , there's too many options!

 

[Louis]

Haha I suppose they wouldn't be in business anymore if they weren't any good, that's good to hear! I was just wondering because my normal set is chrome vanadium which would save me buying a new set or sockets entirely if they're usable.

I may need to do some more homework anyway , there's too many options!

I think on air tools it's probably a different story again! Sometimes it's good to remember if you're only using them every other weekend theyre obviously going last a lot longer. If you're buying tools for work I'd recommend differently as you dont want to be halfway through a job and having to buy more tools when they break.

 

[MLB]

Ah right, didn't know that!

And good point definitely a difference if you rely on your tools every day to make a living instead of just trying to keep a 16 year old French box on the road from a wet driveway. Good to try to find the balance between cost and quality.

 

[JamesBryan]

I think if you're only busting nuts and bolts at a few hundred Newton metres chrome vanadium will be ok.

It's generally the 1000Nm stuff you'd want chrome moly sockets.

 

[JamesBryan]

For anyone after one...

 

[mikekean]

That’s it, Britool makes expert (former draper expert to get away from draper name) Under same banner as Facom too?

Pretty sure modern blue point stuff is just rebranded Chinese stuff like laser etc? Certainly looks very similar to all the other cheaper tools with the blue point name just stuck on. I have a few bits and just looks like the stuff you’d find in the motor factors on the wall of shame.

Britool 'Expert' isn't anything to do with Draper. 'Expert' is just Facom's rebranding of Britool. The Draper Expert range still exists.

 

[Krarl]

Its true

@Cub. Can you change the thread title to "Power Tool Perverts" too please? Ta

 

[MLB]

Christmas addition to the family. Just need the coffeemaker and I'm set for my next wet and cold trackday!

 

[Jamie86]

Christmas addition to the family. Just need the coffeemaker and I'm set for my next wet and cold trackday!

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I was looking at these the other day. Let me know how good it is and how long a battery actually lasts

 

[MLB]

I'll see if I have time to do some tests this week and let you know. Otherwise it's coming to Oulton Park 16th of January!

 

[Pistachio]

Anyone know if you can use that makita pump to clean out dusty PC's?