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RenaultSport Clio 182 Trophy



  Audi A4 AVANT 1.9TDi
Hi all, another members car here.

A bit of a collection now! A RB, Monaco and now a Trophy!

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RenaultSport Clio 182 Trophy – Major Paint Correction Detail

Three weeks ago, the Clio came out of the bodyshop having had the entire front end (wings, bonnet and bumper), mirror caps, handles and rear bumper sprayed. Overall, it is a very clean car – a credit to the owner! Wheels, arches and shuts were all spotless!

My task? Remove the unsightly defects and address the horrific buffertrails found on the freshly ‘finished’ paintwork.

Product

· 3M Glass Cleaner
· 3M Ultra Fina
· 3M Fast Cut +
· AutoSmart G101
· AutoSmart Hazsafe
· AutoSmart Tardis
· AutoSmart Reglaze
· AMDetails Mild Clay Bar
· Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection
· Dodo Juice Born To Be Mild
· IPA
· Jeffs Werkstat Prime
· Menzerna 106FA Final Finish
· Menzerna 203s Power Finish
· Menzerna 85RD 3.02 Intensive Polish
· Menzerna S500 Fast Gloss


Inspection.

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Heh, I see that Scorpion exhaust gets a bit hot then!

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Not much to document in the wash stage. The usual pre-rinse, pre-soak, two bucket system etc.

AutoSmart Tardis lifting a couple of tar spots that were dotted around:

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The vehicle was clayed by the owner just a week before the detail – for peace of mind though, I had to give it a go myself.

Indeed, the paintwork was clean. Only a few stray tar deposits lifted in this occasion:

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Brought inside and blown dry with the black baron to remove trapped water from grilles, shuts, crevices, badges etc

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OK. Paint inspection. First up, the original paint (non-resprayed panels)

Roof, pretty tidy:

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Spoiler, again, not looking too bad (some mild holograms spotted there on the gloss black brake light)

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Starting to spot patches of overspray from the recent spray work as I walk down the O/S:

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Was worse than I originally thought:

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And now for the new panels (bonnet, bumpers, front wings, mirrors and door handles)

Wing:

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Bonnet:

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Bumpers:

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Ouch. Here, they don’t look ‘too’ bad! Red is a tough one to photograph a lot of the time.. Because of that, I nipped the car back out into the sun for a better idea (excuse the awful white balance on the following pics)

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But then “what’s this?” Some nasty machine marks spotted on the N/S/R quarter (original paint)

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18 months ago, soon after the owner first brought the car, it was handed over to a specialist for a paint enhancement/correction detail. Whoops.

Back inside and the bonnet might aswel be white, not red. A truly awful finish!

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A few thickness readings on the front end:

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And my first 50/50:

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This correction took time and effort. The buffertrails were deep. To chase out, I was having to hit it hard and dropping back a step at a time to then further refine to a flawless finish.

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Working down off the bonnet onto the O/S/F wing.

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A 50/50 between the O/S door and the front wing:

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Before/After:

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O/S door refined and ‘trail free!’

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I soon learnt that the original paint was much trickier to work with than that of the resprayed areas… A hard finish with gruesome defects in that needed chasing out, but, at the same time, marked easily and proved quite a challenge to correct/refine properly!

B-pillars before/after:

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Roofline before/after:

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Remember those holograms and faint swirls on the spoiler?

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Err, rain. Heavy rain! (Good job we had the unit!)

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Working late, I continue to hit the original paint on the O/S with a mix of rotary and DA polishers:

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Before/After:

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Morning of day 2, flip reverse things and I’m working down the N/S.

Finished that roof off – only combination I could use here was the Dual Action polisher with a green 3M Cutting pad and Menz S500 for cut. Each quarter of the N/S of the roof took 3+ hits to get perfect. Tiiiiimely process.

Heh, as you can see… I’m not happy.

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Results were good tho – before/afters:

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50/50 on door/rear quarter:

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Base of the A-Pillar where it’s curved and pretty tricky to navigate – before/after:

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*Oooopft!* “Gizz your colour!” (the evening sun shining through the unit)

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Mirror:

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N/S door, complete with more overspray:

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Door fini:

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Sill was heavily scratched. Lake Country wool and Menz S500 used to hit 95% correction.

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…an interesting one though; the N/S sill hadn’t got a clearcoat (but yet the O/S had!?)

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Slow, painful progress. End of day 2.

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Morning of day 3 was spent finalising the machine work – rear lights, N/S/F wing and both the front and rear bumpers.

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Even the lights had buffertrails on them!

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Rear:

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Front:

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Machine work complete (hallelujah!)

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Correction looks promising:

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From here, I was a little rushed. Collection was near (earlier than expected) so little time was spent documenting the rest of the day.

Rinsed to remove polishing dust. Dried down. IPA (isopropyl alcohol) to remove remaining oils and then Blackfire Wet Diamond paint sealant was applied:

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And finished…(Ashamed to say, but, to get right, this one took me 26 hours! (worth it in the end though))

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Saved. Just a shame it was left in such a state in the first place!

As always, thanks for reading,

Jim.
 

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  172 Cup
I just knew when i seen the title that this was going to look epic when you were finished and i was not wrong!

Such a top colour when finished like that and its nice to see a car like that back to its former glory. Well done dude ;)
 
  Audi A4 AVANT 1.9TDi
Thanks guys.

I can't seem to get on very well with Clio's.. They're tricky to get 'right!'
 
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Keith185

ClioSport Club Member
That's awesome work.

What happened with the clear coat or lack of it on the N/S?

Did you find that Menz stuff worked best or is that your product of choice on the Trophy paintwork? I seem to struggle to get decent correction on mine (mainly using britemax and megs compounds on britemax pads) but only used a DA though. If you were closer you'd have another to Trophy to do ;)
 
  Clio Trophy
Hi guys this is my car Jim has saved the day as you could see the car was in aright state before and now it looks superb. All I can say is that if you want your car detailing Jim is your man his attention to detail is amazing so thanks again Jim il'l be in contact about the other issue when it has been sorted.:approve:
 
  Trophy
Great work! Shame there was not one spot of wax or anything on there before. Come out to it's formerglory tho. Loveeeeeeeeeelly
 
Jim, as always.... Overwhelmed by the time you put in to your work and the results you seem to consistently achieve!!

Would love a full correction detail by someone in the know at some point!
 

Tunst

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus ST225, Focus E
I need mine done, id ask you but you would probably tell me to do one when you see the state of it :eek:
 
  C3 Picasso Beast
Addicted it was a major paint correction so you're looking at £330 + depending on the state of your car...




Jim if you looked as happy as you do in that picture when you did my car no wonder you wanted to burn it ;)

Awesome work as ever, looking forward to your next Clio detail and write up probably more than you are!

P.s....You forgot Harpham’s 200 in your collection :)
 

aucky

ClioSport Club Member
Fantastic work as always.

I really need to sort out some respray work on mine, and plan a summer paint correction :/
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
First up, to have an ounce of that kind of talent i'd be a happy man. Simply fantastic correction and almost rectification work. Very tricky job.

Now onto the problem in the first place, that bodyshop should be brought to task over that. Nothing short of f*cking horrendous and gives every bodyshop in the country a bad name. No wonder I hear day after day that "it's hard to find a decent bodyshop that you can trust". To send that kind of work out the door in inexcusable.

Even forgetting the holograms. We all know how most bodyshops polish cars. The overspray is simply shocking, a lot of the time it comes from the polythene cover lifting and sticking to the paintwork. It looks exactly like that.

Where else did you find pad transfer Jim? Good chance that it's been painted somewhere small that would assume the Capsicum Red is solid colour. It's clearly Clear overbase.

Sanding marks still in the paint. I'd also like to hear from the owner regarding accepting the work when it was picked up from the bodyshop.
 
Fantastic as per sir!

First up, to have an ounce of that kind of talent i'd be a happy man. Simply fantastic correction and almost rectification work. Very tricky job.

Now onto the problem in the first place, that bodyshop should be brought to task over that. Nothing short of f*cking horrendous and gives every bodyshop in the country a bad name. No wonder I hear day after day that "it's hard to find a decent bodyshop that you can trust". To send that kind of work out the door in inexcusable.

Even forgetting the holograms. We all know how most bodyshops polish cars. The overspray is simply shocking, a lot of the time it comes from the polythene cover lifting and sticking to the paintwork. It looks exactly like that.

Where else did you find pad transfer Jim? Good chance that it's been painted somewhere small that would assume the Capsicum Red is solid colour. It's clearly Clear overbase.

Sanding marks still in the paint. I'd also like to hear from the owner regarding accepting the work when it was picked up from the bodyshop.


I'm yet to have a good experience with a bodyshop...

Also when I detailed JonG's capsicum 1.2 from on here, that had pad transfer on the rear and front bumpers!
 
  Clio Trophy
Sanding marks still in the paint. I'd also like to hear from the owner regarding accepting the work when it was picked up from the bodyshop.[/QUOTE]

Hi Gally when I picked up the car it had been washed and looked good, I always knew the car would come back with buffer trails and holograms as its what I have come to expect with most bodyshops, I know that it shouldnt be the case but sadly that is the way it is. I didnt expect that level of overspray and didnt notice all of it as I didnt check it under halogen lighting as the car was outside when I oicked it up. The car was always going to get detailed regaurdless to the bodyshop finish as they do not have the attention to detail that detailers have. Jim has brought the car back to life and I hope to keep it that way.:D
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Yup paint correction > respray all day long!

And that's from a bodyshop assessor. Just glad you got it sorted mate.
 
  Audi A4 AVANT 1.9TDi
Thanks again all.

It's not great, but, here's a little vid that I threw together late last night to show the video footage of the buffertrails (vid's not the best, it was late, I was rushed (and I'd had beer(s))

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That's awesome work.

What happened with the clear coat or lack of it on the N/S?

Did you find that Menz stuff worked best or is that your product of choice on the Trophy paintwork? I seem to struggle to get decent correction on mine (mainly using britemax and megs compounds on britemax pads) but only used a DA though. If you were closer you'd have another to Trophy to do ;)

The lack of clear on the N/S sill was news to the owner... That was the only area that suffered from it - thought originally it could have been lifted overspray but there were many more areas similar to that of the sill that suffered from the overspray that DIDNT have pad transfer. Must be from a previous life...

Menz is my 'go to' at the minute still. Using their S500 and it's great (infact, just depleted my first bottle today (two more on order)) With the DA, I had to go for looooooOOONG periods with many overlapping passes and several hits to get the results. I was using the green 3M cutting pad and Menz S500. Clio paint is tough; relatively hard, so, you need to go aggressive to make 'that' difference but then at the same time can be delicate and sometimes struggle to finish well. What are the Megs compounds? 83 & 84? Certainly worth looking into Menz S500 (ooh, whilst I think about it, Megs actually have a new DA wool system coming out... Also worth checking out from what I hear!)



Hi guys this is my car Jim has saved the day as you could see the car was in aright state before and now it looks superb. All I can say is that if you want your car detailing Jim is your man his attention to detail is amazing so thanks again Jim il'l be in contact about the other issue when it has been sorted.:approve:

Hi Pete. Thanks again buddy.

The car's a real credit to you - you should have no probs keeping on top of it from now!



Great work! Shame there was not one spot of wax or anything on there before. Come out to it's formerglory tho. Loveeeeeeeeeelly

"One spot of wax?" Whats made you say that?! The car, as above, was actually in a real good/tidy/clean condition!



absolutely fantastic, the transformation is unreal!
just for information for myself, what "treatment" did this car go under (so i know roughly how much it cost :))

As stated by Shot_corpse, it's dependant on overall timings taken which is relative to vehicle condition. Best to make direct contact if you'd like to know more. Thanks



I need mine done, id ask you but you would probably tell me to do one when you see the state of it :eek:

haha! Can't be that bad... Trust, I've seen some pretty bad examples! (not Clio's, I might add!)



Addicted it was a major paint correction so you're looking at £330 + depending on the state of your car...

Jim if you looked as happy as you do in that picture when you did my car no wonder you wanted to burn it ;)

Awesome work as ever, looking forward to your next Clio detail and write up probably more than you are!

P.s....You forgot Harpham’s 200 in your collection :)


See, I didn't foget Harp's, just, it wasn't a 182 so thought it was a little unfair to include it in the line-up! :)

"next clio detail and write up", ugh... *shudders*



First up, to have an ounce of that kind of talent i'd be a happy man. Simply fantastic correction and almost rectification work. Very tricky job.

Now onto the problem in the first place, that bodyshop should be brought to task over that. Nothing short of f*cking horrendous and gives every bodyshop in the country a bad name. No wonder I hear day after day that "it's hard to find a decent bodyshop that you can trust". To send that kind of work out the door in inexcusable.

Even forgetting the holograms. We all know how most bodyshops polish cars. The overspray is simply shocking, a lot of the time it comes from the polythene cover lifting and sticking to the paintwork. It looks exactly like that.

Where else did you find pad transfer Jim? Good chance that it's been painted somewhere small that would assume the Capsicum Red is solid colour. It's clearly Clear overbase.

Sanding marks still in the paint. I'd also like to hear from the owner regarding accepting the work when it was picked up from the bodyshop.

Thanks man.

Only that one area RE the pad transfer (N/S sill)

To be fair, it was noted between us, that, holograms etc aside, the paintwork wasn't actually that bad. Those sanding marks that were on the bonnet; only ones I found! Overspray, yeah, ok.. But the actual finish once correctly machined was pretty impressive. Just a shame it was ruined in the final stages by their poor finishing!


Will have a MEGA write up for you soon... It's black, it's a convertible and it's a twin-wurbo. (Any guesses?)
 

Tunst

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus ST225, Focus E
haha! Can't be that bad... Trust, I've seen some pretty bad examples! (not Clio's, I might add!)


mines covered in swirls and various places bird s**t etches :( It could do with a respray tbh...
 
  Clio 182 + Recaros
Very impressive Jim, be interesting to see your skills let loose on Black Gold - which in peoples experience on the forum is really difficult to work on.
 

Keith185

ClioSport Club Member
The lack of clear on the N/S sill was news to the owner... That was the only area that suffered from it - thought originally it could have been lifted overspray but there were many more areas similar to that of the sill that suffered from the overspray that DIDNT have pad transfer. Must be from a previous life...

Menz is my 'go to' at the minute still. Using their S500 and it's great (infact, just depleted my first bottle today (two more on order)) With the DA, I had to go for looooooOOONG periods with many overlapping passes and several hits to get the results. I was using the green 3M cutting pad and Menz S500. Clio paint is tough; relatively hard, so, you need to go aggressive to make 'that' difference but then at the same time can be delicate and sometimes struggle to finish well. What are the Megs compounds? 83 & 84? Certainly worth looking into Menz S500 (ooh, whilst I think about it, Megs actually have a new DA wool system coming out... Also worth checking out from what I hear!)


Been using Megs 83 on britmax orange pad (Then either lime prim or recently Z-AIO) but only on a DA. Brother has a rotary so might borrow that for the bonnet and roof. Thanks for the reply I'll look into Menz stuff :)
 
Awesome stuff Jim, proper got me in the mood to sort mine!

Pete, which body shop was it? PM me if you don't want to say on here. As I know you're in/around Brid.
 
  Audi A4 AVANT 1.9TDi
Neither is mine

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ah, haha... a fair point well presented!


Very impressive Jim, be interesting to see your skills let loose on Black Gold - which in peoples experience on the forum is really difficult to work on.

Yeah, after seeing others' reports for BG, I'd like to give it a go myself!


Awesome mate! My RB is still in fantastic order:)

Hey Andy, ah good stuff! Keep it up (any recent pics to share?)
 


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