So, who's looking forward to the 2013 Mk4 Renaulsport Clio Williams 230 1.6t Cup?

[Rob669]

Hopefully with it being a turbo, it might actually make the power quoted, or even more if they are like the new RS Meggies...

210bhp I reckon.

100% right. The 172 (168 hp) = 160ish hp in reality and 182's not much more so at least the Clio might get the power that's being quoted.

 

[Goodj]

Right up until the turbo melts

 

[Matthew]

Right up until the turbo melts

3 year warrantee FTW

I actually like the 200 now, so a SG 200 with the 1.6T running 210 actual bhp with 180 pound feet or torque,

Returning 40+ MPG.

Win win.

 

[Skeeter]

Recommended Renault service interval: 36,000 miles - change Turbo



Matthew has the right idea though, there are some big positives to a turbo engine.

 

[Goodj]

there are some big positives to a turbo engine.

I guess the Clio engines never were the last word in tunefulness, bolting on y0! exhausts only made them sound worse.

 

[Matthew]

I bet Paul at RS Tuning will be rubbing his hands together at this.

Remaps that are actually worth doing. Lol

30bhp gain for £350 anyone?

 

[Goodj]

I bet Paul at RS Tuning will be rubbing his hands together at this.

Remaps that are actually worth doing. Lol

30bhp gain for £350 anyone?

Only after the warranty is over.

by which time you'll want rid before the entire drivetrain melts

 

[Skeeter]

Yeah, but if Renault have any sence they will release 'special' versions for £3000 more with a 30bhp remap and some exclusive wheels.

For reference: See VW Golfs

 

[Matthew]

Only after the warranty is over.

by which time you'll want rid before the entire drivetrain melts

Good point actually lol

 

[bengtt5]

PMSL at owners of a 4-pot Renault sewing machine mocking a 5-pot boosted Volvo motor.

my old five turbo ran countless 11.5sec quarters at the pod even my mate 400bhp saph couldnt catch it

 

[Dan]

Plus them 5 pots will start eating themselves from inside soon

 

[JonnyClio]

Might be old enough with enough years NCB to actually afford to insure this!

 

[olliewebbuk]

Next Clio should have 220BHP and the Meggy should then get boosted up to 260-265BHP. Then Renault will once again s**t on every other hot-hatch.

Direct injection and a turbo gets me reasonably excited, I heard a Juke with a DiG-T engine ticking over the other day, sounded pretty good when rev'ed. The engine has 187BHP in the Juke and it does 0-60 in 7.7 seconds with a 134MPH top end. So if boosted up to 220BHP+ it could be a nice little engine.

If the engine is any where near as exciting as the MultiAir Fiat lumps then it'll be all good.

 

[Matthew]

Isn't the Clio's engine meant to be coming from the Juke?

Thought that's what EVO had claimed?

 

[olliewebbuk]

Isn't the Clio's engine meant to be coming from the Juke?

Thought that's what EVO had claimed?

Yeah, hence why I mentioned it.

 

[Matthew]

Yeah, hence why I mentioned it.

Lol thought Renault were meant to be developing their own 1.6T?

Maybe just gona buy/use Nissans then.

 

[olliewebbuk]

Renault own Nissan...

 

[Dunn]

LOL

 

[jenic]

It's just a partnership, Renault own some of Nissan and Nissan own some of Renault and they share r&d, engines etc.

 

[The Boosh!]

Lol thought Renault were meant to be developing their own 1.6T?

Maybe just gona buy/use Nissans then.

http://www.renault.com/en/groupe/l-alliance-renault-nissan/pages/l-alliance-renault-nissan.aspx

Renault own 43.4% of Nissan. Nissan own 15% of Renault. Makes sense to identify synergies between the companies and share engines where appropriate.

 

[olliewebbuk]

It's just a partnership, Renault own some of Nissan and Nissan own some of Renault and they share r&d, engines etc.

In 1999, with Nissan facing severe financial difficulties, Nissan entered an alliance with Renault S.A. of France.

Signed on March 27, 1999, the Renault-Nissan Alliance is the first of its kind involving a Japanese and French car manufacturer, each with its own distinct corporate culture and brand identity. The same year, Renault appointed its own Chief Operating Officer, Carlos Ghosn, as Chief Operating Officer of Nissan and took a 22.5% stake in Nissan Diesel. Later that year, Nissan fired its top Japanese executives.

The Renault-Nissan Alliance has evolved over years to Renault holding 44.3% of Nissan shares, while Nissan holds 15% of Renault shares which does not give Nissan a voting or board representation due to legal restriction in France.

Basically, Nissan is Renault's bitchboy.

 

[.Adam.]

Renault own Nissan...

Really? I learn something new every day on this forum!

 

[JonnyClio]

Nissan GT-R engine in a clio yes please

 

[gaz44]

I bet Paul at RS Tuning will be rubbing his hands together at this.

Remaps that are actually worth doing. Lol

30bhp gain for £350 anyone?

Already get this on my diesel. A Clio turbo does sound appealing though, as long as it doesn't look like a 200. Something like the MCS engine would be nice. Revvy enough, torquey and good mpg.

 

[Jaff.]

Basically, Nissan is Renault's b**chboy.

then why (if the roumour i heared is true) are renault now changing their part numbers to match nissan part numbers? surely it would be the other way round?

 

[realnumber 1]

then why (if the roumour i heared is true) are renault now changing their part numbers to match nissan part numbers? surely it would be the other way round?

That would depend on what systems each has in place and which is the best...

 

[Jaff.]

That would depend on what systems each has in place and which is the best...

a good point! cant see anything the french designing being any good to begin with anyway lol!

 

[olliewebbuk]

Most of the current Nissans use Renault platforms. The Micra uses a Clio B one currently. French chassis > Jap Dullness.

 

[KEVRSI]

some photo shop what it it would look like, I would buy it

 

[Matthew]

I honestly didnt know Renault and Nissan were in bed together - you live and learn.

 

[olliewebbuk]

The last news in the deal was that Renault will make the diesels and Nissan will make the petrol engines.

 

[Yellow Dave]

I honestly didnt know Renault and Nissan were in bed together - you live and learn.

A long while back Renault and Volvo were trading engines

 

[brisa4984]

I honestly didnt know Renault and Nissan were in bed together - you live and learn.

yeh.. im pretty sure the 250 box is nissan developed.

 

[jamesd1263]

Nissan primastar vans are covered all over in Renault parts

 

[sideways danny]

Nissan primastar vans are covered all over in Renault parts

thats a 3 way deal, they're ALL built in the IBC (vauxhall) plant in luton, and all identical except for badges.

 

[.Kev.]

Hopefully with it being a turbo, it might actually make the power quoted, or even more if they are like the new RS Meggies...

210bhp I reckon.

Our Mini was bog standard apart from a filter and made 194hp....... Gotta love Boost.

The Megane is already at 260 in Trophy spec and Ford have announced the new FRS will use the 2ltr 4 pot Eco boost with 300+hp. By 2013 no doubt the next version of Clios and Corsa Vxrs will be putting out 210+hp maybe more.

I'm also hoping Ford will release a Fiesta RS......

 

[Matthew]

Within 10 years the RS Clio will be about 300bhp lol

 

[ant_r27]

Why don't Renault just take a 370Z, wrap a sophisticated European coupe body round it, sprinkle a bit of RenaultSport magic, badge it as an Alpine and put it on sale?

 

[Winged-Will]

Why don't Renault just take a 370Z, wrap a sophisticated European coupe body round it, sprinkle a bit of RenaultSport magic, badge it as an Alpine and put it on sale?

I really like the sound of that!

 

[Steve SS]

So the new Clio could potentially be "twin-clutch"......so twice as many things to go wrong then