The Trophy's Replacement - Naples 16v

[Hixle]

I only used a normal wheel brace from a spare wheel tool kit ffs!

I'm wondering if its anything to do with freshly powder coated wheels? If the coating has expanded or something?

Lol!

It's a possibility mate. I work next to a garage so will get them to loosen them tomorrow.

 

[Cub.]

I only used a normal wheel brace from a spare wheel tool kit ffs!

I'm wondering if its anything to do with freshly powder coated wheels? If the coating has expanded or something?

Sheared a chrome vanadium reducer clean in half on the first nut! I like to think I'm a big guy, but it wouldn't budge and then it sheared, crazy scenes

 

[Joe#]

Looking mighty fine Luke. Bloody love that colour too!

 

[Bluebeard]

I like to think I'm a big guy,

Obviously not big enough.

Noodle arms.

 

[Cub.]

Obviously not big enough.

Noodle arms.

Flol. Noodle arms strong enough to break a reducer

 

[Bluebeard]

Should have used a normal wheel brace then!

Noodle arms. x

 

[Cub.]

And to think Luke and I were discussing what a thoroughly nice chap you were. Ol' Noodle Arms here retracts his statement, your a wanker

 

[Bluebeard]

Don't worry, I still love you though. x

 

[Cub.]

Stop it, my wife to be may read this. When I am going to see you and Sam for a drink, im getting withdrawal symptoms you see. You coming to the next South Central meet - bit of trek for you I suppose.

 

[Bluebeard]

Well Sams car has taken a set back... He spent his £1200 wiring budget on a new mattress ffs. He's got a woman now. Changed man.

 

[Cub.]

Well Sams car has taken a set back... He spent his £1200 wiring budget on a new mattress ffs. He's got a woman now. Changed man.

Not good! Although it gives him more time to fit my cage

£1200 on a mattress - is it filled with the softest virgin pubic hair or something?

 

[Bluebeard]

No idea mate. He spent about 3 hours in the car the other day banging on about it.

I'm seeing him tomorrow night so i'll be well up on mattress terminology by midnight i'm sure.

 

[Cub.]

Happy days! Send him my best!

 

[Cookson]

I like thye willy rims

I also like originals

And I like black with a polished lip

My god...... I miss my Mk1

 

[Silent_Scone]

So yummy. I really need another mk1, even if it's lesser than a valver I don't care. They're just so much fun

 

[Sir_Dave]

Needs Willy wheels.

Being a Mk1, has it broken down yet?

 

[Hixle]

Lol at the mattress!

You're not helping Phil! Looked amazing on the willy wheels.

Needs Willy wheels.

Being a Mk1, has it broken down yet?

You're not helping either.

Erm, not really! I've had a clutch problem a couple of times where I've had to pull over with hazards on as I can't select a gear, but otherwise it's been spot on. The brakes have decided to make a weird 'wooshing' noise as of yesterday evening, which I need to get checked out, and they're also starting to grind, so need new pads at the front I think. Just deciding which ones to get!

 

[Chip-mk1]

The pads you want, are pagid blues or ds2500 in 172 calipers.

 

[Coops Mk1]

I think chip wants you to do a mk2 suspension swap chap I've detected a couple of very subtle hints nodding to that end in this thread.... lol!

 

[Hixle]

Potentially stupid question coming up Chip; will the 1*2 calipers fit on to standard valver disks easily enough?

I'm useless with brakes, haven't got a clue.

 

[Goodj]

I'm useless with cars, haven't got a clue.

It's OK, we all make mistakes

 

[Chip-mk1]

Potentially stupid question coming up Chip; will the 1*2 calipers fit on to standard valver disks easily enough?

I'm useless with brakes, haven't got a clue.

No, you need to swap the whole lot, including the hubs etc.

Its what is on my mk1, only issue is the track rods, your valver ones arent long enough, im using a williams rack.

But I think 172 ones might be an option.

 

[Coops Mk1]

what is the concise list for the swap chip, am I right in thinking its

- hubs
- wishbones/ball joints
- driveshafts
- full brakes so discs, carriers,calipers and pads (and flexis)
- front struts (can use Williams but need to machine hubs down to fit and shim the bolt holes to fit smaller mk1 bolts)
- do something to sort track rod ends, either change inner arms, Williams rack or pray 172 ends work

 

[Chip-mk1]

I believe you are correct mate, but I didnt personally convert mine, AndryRG did it before I got it, so I am not 100% sure if there is anything else missing off that list which mine had, certainly cant think of any thing though.

I fitted phase 1 shafts to it, and I fitted a williams rack (it was non PAS and had no shafts when I bought the shell), so I know those bits are correct, and the rest just looks like standard 172 (other than the coilovers) but I can do some digging at some point if a google search wont throw up the right info.

Its enough wider on mine that when sat really low and with 205 wide tyres Andyrg actually had the tyre catch the arch slightly on track, but that wouldnt be a problem at a sensible ride height and on a 195 tyre.

 

[Sir_Dave]

No, you need to swap the whole lot, including the hubs etc.

Its what is on my mk1, only issue is the track rods, your valver ones arent long enough, im using a williams rack.

But I think 172 ones might be an option.

So basically, he should have just bought another Mk2?

Could have had my Trophy Luke

 

[Coops Mk1]

cheers chap, its something I am thinking about doing on the mk1 to get a proper widetrack, its still on old school valver setup with the awful drop link ARB etc, tbh its never been an issue really, car handles great, but I think I fancy tinkering some more is all and perhaps a slightly comfier ride with proper shockers and some eibach springs perhaps.

the ledas are annoying me, they knock/rattle with the AST top mounts and on road use its just a pain, I need to find out why but part of me also just thinks, meh, time to go comfier!lol!

 

[Chip-mk1]

So basically, he should have just bought another Mk2?

Could have had my Trophy Luke

No,
mk1 looks and mk2 mechanical is where its at

 

[Coops Mk1]

So basically, he should have just bought another Mk2?

Could have had my Trophy Luke

mk1's are much better looking and have loads more character

 

[Hixle]

Just found a decent guide written by Jord when he did his. Will have a proper read through at lunch:

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?439455-172-Widetrack-on-a-Mk1-(Valver-Williams-etc)

So basically, he should have just bought another Mk2?

Could have had my Trophy Luke

Pah, that way I wouldn't be half as cool

 

[Chip-mk1]

I forgot about the ARB.

He is wrong about needing williams shocks though im pretty sure, I believe 172 ones will fit, and then you dont need to mill down the hubs either.

 

[Coops Mk1]

Oh ah,arb!lol!

I can't see why 172 shocks wouldn't fit,top mounts identical.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Oh ah,arb!lol!

I can't see why 172 shocks wouldn't fit,top mounts identical.

Indeed, I guess the height might be wrong, different weight etc, but thats just a case of getting the right springs.

And I think a set of new 172 cup shocks would work really well.

 

[Sir_Dave]

mk1's are much better looking and have loads more character

Alfa's have character as well lol. Just means they break down a lot iirc

I did love the Mk1 when it came out though!!! Just not sure i could buy one over a 205 gti ...

 

[Revels]

Luke, don't do the brakes yourself. You'll crash and die.

 

[Hixle]

Alfa's have character as well lol. Just means they break down a lot iirc

I did love the Mk1 when it came out though!!! Just not sure i could buy one over a 205 gti ...

Lol, I've nearly done 900 miles in it in a week and a half and so far, so good (apart from the brakes).

*Touches closest wooden object.

Luke, don't do the brakes yourself. You'll crash and die.

Have a little faith Dan! Bu'reet.

 

[Chip-mk1]

So you have been driving it for a whole week and a half and its only the clutch and brakes that dont work?

wow, sounds very reliable then

 

[Hixle]

Brakes work, but the pads need doing as it seems to grind at slow speeds. Clutch is a weird one, I'll get it sorted though.

I've also lost a centre cap and fixed (then broke) the central locking. It's all part of the fun.

 

[Cookson]

Brakes work, but the pads need doing as it seems to grind at slow speeds. Clutch is a weird one, I'll get it sorted though.

I've also lost a centre cap and fixed (then broke) the central locking. It's all part of the fun.

This is the reason I love Mk1's......... but will never own another

 

[leeds_182]

I'm still paying for the repairs I made to my mk1.

I sold it in 2006.

 

[White16valver]

Does this one have ABS and airbags?



I am jealous of the lack of rust.