Toastfrenzy's Tin Top, some say...........

Toastfrenzy · Oct 14, 2013

Just spoke to Martin (Agency), he's not sure he'll be able to turn the gearbox around this week if I wait, got to ring when it's out and he'll let me know.

He also said the weird gear locations are down to an adjustment bolt\screw being moved, having moved on\in the box. A simple fix but couldn't really get the location out of him of said bolt\screw.

Toastfrenzy · Oct 18, 2013

Gearbox has been sorted, both 3rd and 4th gears where fubar'd. The damage to the cogs was impressive - though not really too sure how they could end up like that. Or is it the result of crunching gears - guess may have answered my own question. But still the damage seems severe for the symptoms. New synchros fitted too, along with a check over it all came to the princely sum of £60.

Box is back in and all the gears are where they're supposed to be, just have to raise the crank sensor some more to get it running right and it's all done.

Though in my haste to get the gearbox sorted I forget to get the 5th gear swapped at the same time - job for next time the box is out again.

Donington race this weekend - still on the fence after giving up my place last week. Should've kept it but didn't want to risk not getting the box sorted in time. Will see if any places become free today, if not doubt I'll come along. I know the last 6pm race of the day is a given, just not wanting to hang around all day just for that.

mark123 · Oct 18, 2013

Glad it's all sorted pete. Bargain price too. The gears themselves never disengage. It is the synchros that do that. For damaged gears I expect something must have got in there.

What do you pay if you only get one race?

Tony Hunter · Oct 18, 2013

Come on Pete, you'll be there, I have Chili.

sonny172cup · Oct 18, 2013

Nice one Pete, glad to hear its coming together. How can you tell the crank sensor needs adjusting? I just stuck mine on!?

Toastfrenzy · Oct 19, 2013

Runs lumpy\missing at low revs, either pull away or change down, drop to 2nd and it fails to accelerate cleanly - left standing basically. It was either the fly wheel or crank sensor (post engine\loom\ecu build) from earlier this year. It was easier to move the crank sensor first, Dan just slotted the the back hole and it pivots on the front hole. It's a new Renault blue one and picks up too much from the fly wheel moving the sensor away cleans up the signal\resolves all the symptoms. Just didn't take note of the position first before it was taken off, not too sure what has to be done to the flywheel to sort that way, not overly worried as moving the sensor works.

Toastfrenzy · Oct 19, 2013

mark123 said:
Glad it's all sorted pete. Bargain price too. The gears themselves never disengage. It is the synchros that do that. For damaged gears I expect something must have got in there.

What do you pay if you only get one race?

I don't actually know but if only the last (or one) race completed I hope only a 3rd of the entry fee would be charged, two or more the whole fee would be charged as this would be a normal race day. But confirmed just now I'm not going - pity.

But I suspect the gearbox wouldn't have lasted the whole three races (going on the state of the internals when stripped) and cost a lot more than the £60 repair, £30 new oil and £30 fuel to get it to Agency and back again so with that in mind I made the right choice in being cautious, though had I known how quick I managed to actually get it sorted I would've left myself entered for the race.

Though the £330 saved is half the cost of some rather nice trumpets I've seen........now a graph that shows 235, hmmmmm

mark123 · Oct 19, 2013

lol sounds interesting.

Chip-mk1 · Oct 19, 2013

Silly not to go bodies with the cams and compression already there TBH, the gains from swapping off the standard manifold in your car will be huge.

Tony Hunter · Oct 19, 2013

Best leave it then.

Toastfrenzy · Oct 21, 2013

mark123 said:
lol sounds interesting.

:evil:

Chip-mk1 said:
Silly not to go bodies with the cams and compression already there TBH, the gains from swapping off the standard manifold in your car will be huge.

Realised this when it was being built, but just 6 -700 too much at the same time as the build (as it was an unplanned\mid season build back then post engine demise).

Tony Hunter said:
Best leave it then.

Chip-mk1 · Oct 21, 2013

Toastfrenzy said:
Realised this when it was being built, but just 6 -700 too much at the same time as the build (as it was an unplanned\mid season build back then post engine demise).

Makes sense the way you did it from a budget point of view, as you replaced the bits you had to with the spec you wanted them to end up rather than a halfway house that costs more when you replace them again, then when funds are available for the inlet you can capitalise on what you have.

Martin. · Oct 21, 2013

You have high comp pistons already?

Toastfrenzy · Oct 21, 2013

We grow the biggest apples, Fen soil the worlds best, reclaimed from the sea C1700's.

Tony Hunter · Oct 21, 2013

That's as big as her head Pete. Not so sure about the tee shirt for a little kick boxing champ though.

Toastfrenzy · Oct 25, 2013

v800mjh said:
You have high comp pistons already?

Yes.

Now looking at 120mm Jenvey air horns - there's a thread, started today, about this. Handy. Been told could get close to 240 with my internals with the right TB's.

BIGASH · Oct 25, 2013

Toastfrenzy said:
Yes.

Now looking at 120mm Jenvey air horns - there's a thread, started today, about this. Handy. Been told could get close to 240 with my internals with the right TB's.

Are you running 423's then Pete? I don't know why but I thought you had 422's? Will be good to get bodies onto it!

Toastfrenzy · Oct 25, 2013

BIGASH said:
Are you running 423's then Pete? I don't know why but I thought you had 422's? Will be good to get bodies onto it!

ah - 422's just checked the invoice - I got guestimates for both so the figure is wrong, still be good though..if I pluck up the courage as I always said I'll never get bodies..lol.

BIGASH · Oct 25, 2013

Will still be a big difference adding ITB's

I'd go for it if I were you Pete

dinger · Oct 25, 2013

Ok, can you all please stop building forged high comp engines please. Lol

Adam G · Oct 25, 2013

Oh I can just see us Prod guys chatting like this next year.

dinger · Oct 25, 2013

If I don't hurry up and get one of these engines I may drop into the production class by default, lol

Seriously though, if funds allow then a forged f4r on bodies will be done over winter, Suspension upgrade first.

Can't wait to see what yours goes like though Pete.

Tony Hunter · Oct 25, 2013

Where did all this talk of forged engines come from ffs!!

Adam G · Oct 25, 2013

I'll wait and see what my euro ticket brings.

mark123 · Oct 25, 2013

What was the est power difference between 422 and 423 Pete I thought there was not much between them.

Custom crank, rods and pistons next

NorthloopCup · Oct 26, 2013

Tony Hunter said:
Where did all this talk of forged engines come from ffs!!

I've told you already I can get stuff at sensible prices if you want them Tony!

Toastfrenzy · Oct 26, 2013

Managed to get a last minute entry in the Silverstone WHT all comers closed wheel race on the 4th November (next Sunday)- I now know why the organiser wouldn't tell me what cars had already entered, but going on the theme of the weekend not surprising really.

Now, if I get beaten by the Auto union I won't be happy - if Google images has brought up the right pictures.

Sweep stake on where I'll come! Might be fitting the ITBs this week, lol.

Adam G · Oct 26, 2013

Oh dear Pete, let's hope the Minis and Dolly sprint aren't too modified.

Ah Mallocks..........happy memories of the original Gitspeed:

dinger · Oct 26, 2013

If I wasnt working Pete I'd come and watch,

Looks an interesting, if not wierd line up! Closed wheel being used very loosely there, lol

sonny172cup · Oct 26, 2013

All the best Pete, im sure you will have a good one

Toastfrenzy · Oct 26, 2013

Adam G said:
Oh dear Pete, let's hope the Minis and Dolly sprint aren't too modified.

Ah Mallocks..........happy memories of the original Gitspeed:

That's closed wheel?

dinger said:
If I wasnt working Pete I'd come and watch,

Looks an interesting, if not wierd line up! Closed wheel being used very loosely there, lol

hmm my thoughts too, maybe he thought I wouldn't enter if I knew the line up, lol.

sonny172cup said:
All the best Pete, im sure you will have a good one

Thanks Sonny looking forward to it, not driven Sliverstone before, sat at Brooklands many a time thinking - too fast, to late, lol, my turn now.

All's not lost, Andy Joss is now trying to get on too, so hopefully I won't be on my own.

I suspect most of them will be on slicks and\or race wets so not a chance really. Another signature anyway.

dinger · Oct 26, 2013

How many autographs do you need now Pete?

The good thing with TARC is two signitures a meeting if you finish both, I only need two now.

Adam G · Oct 26, 2013

Toastfrenzy said:
That's closed wheel?

No but they're covered lol.
Not sure which Mk it was, was one of my old man's hillclimb cars, BDA'd iirc.

sonny172cup · Oct 26, 2013

I have driven Silverstone on the new circuit and its very hard on the car

Martin. · Oct 26, 2013

4th is a Monday?

Tony Hunter · Oct 26, 2013

10th

Just put it down to experience Pete, a race is a race mate.

2Damnsly Andy · Oct 27, 2013

Pete I'd expect you to be up there just behind the radicals.....

Toastfrenzy · Oct 28, 2013

And here we have this years Halloween efforts; Harry's on left and Scarlett's on the right.

sonny172cup · Oct 28, 2013

Thats pretty impressive Pete, i expect yours to have a Clio racer carved into it

Toastfrenzy · Oct 28, 2013

dinger said:
How many autographs do you need now Pete?

The good thing with TARC is two signitures a meeting if you finish both, I only need two now.

Only get one sig as a 2 driver team - Sam's all done I'm still short by one.

Adam G said:
No but they're covered lol.
Not sure which Mk it was, was one of my old man's hillclimb cars, BDA'd iirc.

How good will these be on a circuit?

sonny172cup said:
I have driven Silverstone on the new circuit and its very hard on the car

Doing the National track so hopefully not as bad, it looks as fast as Thruxton, thinking every where is 3rd maybe 4th for Copse with a slight dab to bring a bit of weight forward I'm thinking, 80-85 mph corner? Maggots 3rd for Becketts\exit for the run down Brooklands. Brooklands 3rd - Not sure if I'll need a short shift to 2nd for Luffield - hope not. And late apex through Woodcote under full power. I'll watch Tony's video later to see how it pans out.

v800mjh said:
4th is a Monday?

It's the 3rd - typo.

Tony Hunter said:
10th

Just put it down to experience Pete, a race is a race mate.

Yes, 10th - something to go for!!

2Damnsly said:
Pete I'd expect you to be up there just behind the radicals.....

I'll be behind them for sure, Radical Prosport video I watched yesterday was lapping Cadwell at 1.33, Tony was 1.47. The SR3 was lapping cadwell at 1.22.

sonny172cup said:
Thats pretty impressive Pete, i expect yours to have a Clio racer carved into it

An Idea for next year!

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