WRX
Don't know what engines they have these days but this shows some are a bit handy:S
http://www.clubmans.org.uk/classicfiles/records.html
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Toastfrenzy's Tin Top, some say...........
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Don't know what engines they have these days but this shows some are a bit handy:S
http://www.clubmans.org.uk/classicfiles/records.html
182cup & 172 racecar
Fairly nippy then.
Good luck Pete I hope you have a good day and have some good fortune 
!
EPIC pumpkins!
!EPIC pumpkins!
182cup & 172 racecar
Thats no way to talk about Sam James, shame on you.
182cup & 172 racecar
Lol, to much.
All in about 800 to 1k.
Thats from leaving home and returning home.
All in about 800 to 1k.
Thats from leaving home and returning home.
Range Rover Sport
And the above is probably classed as a cheap form on motorsport. Crazy money by the time you add it all up. A lot of respect to the people who do it on a regular basis!
182cup & 172 racecar
Can be done a little cheaper, but if you average it out over the year, that figure isn't far off.
mikeh
ClioSport Club Member
182 Trophy
Any chance you could break that down for me?
I'll try but it scares the bejesus out of me everytime I think about it!
Trailer hire £70
Fuel (tow car) £100
Fuel (race car) £60
Entrance £300
Tyres (pro rata) £100
food £30
fags £20
And thats a cheap one forgetting replacing oil/fluids each meeting and any damage incurred.
Trailer hire £70
Fuel (tow car) £100
Fuel (race car) £60
Entrance £300
Tyres (pro rata) £100
food £30
fags £20
And thats a cheap one forgetting replacing oil/fluids each meeting and any damage incurred.
182cup & 172 racecar
Plus all the rebuild costs over the winter, brake pads, discs, trailer service, tax, mot, insurance on tow vehicle. The list goes on and on.
and its worth every penny...
Only down sides are hidden costs...such as tow vehicle or trailer breaking down and tools etc
182cup & 172 racecar
Oh and £200+ on tea for you lot
WRX
Don't mention the sarnies either.Oh and £200+ on tea for you lot
182cup & 172 racecar
Thats what its all about. And Sams cake.
mikeh
ClioSport Club Member
182 Trophy
So the entry fee is only £300? That seems like incredibly good value!
It's something I desperately want to do in the next couple of years. There is an increasing number of local blokes doing 750MC Locosts which also seems pretty cheap, but they just don't quite appeal to me - I don't fancy learning how to drive a car all over again.
What's needed car wise? Cage, extinguisher and battery cut-off? Then ARDS, Suit, Helmet and go racing?
Is it possible to be competitive (I'm not talking top-5 but at least, not last!) with standard engine, some decent suspension/geo and a s**t load of tuition?
It's something I desperately want to do in the next couple of years. There is an increasing number of local blokes doing 750MC Locosts which also seems pretty cheap, but they just don't quite appeal to me - I don't fancy learning how to drive a car all over again.
What's needed car wise? Cage, extinguisher and battery cut-off? Then ARDS, Suit, Helmet and go racing?
Is it possible to be competitive (I'm not talking top-5 but at least, not last!) with standard engine, some decent suspension/geo and a s**t load of tuition?
Have a look here,, http://www.trackattackraceclub.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67
Production class is starting next year with a few guys on here building cars for.
Production class is starting next year with a few guys on here building cars for.
Good luck Pete I hope you have a good day and have some good fortune
EPIC pumpkins!
Thanks James, think I'll need a miracle to get placed LOL.
Thanks for taking the time to read Mike, been an eventful build for sure.
The costs for a us for a race are
Race Entry £300
Fuel Tow car £40 - Passat 2.0 TDI - manages 30-35 mpg towing.
Fuel Race car burns £60 approx 1ltr\min - 45 ltrs
Fair ware and tear on all - £200 (consumables oil\brake pads\tyres etc on cars trailer)
Food £15 (bring all, flasks sandwiches and most importantly CAKE)
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mikeh
ClioSport Club Member
182 Trophy
It sounds good in principle, but it's a little too restrictive for me. No geo adjustment that wasn't there standard kills any chance of using a Clio IMO.
Thanks, that really does seem like good value motorsport, especially when you think a sprint would probably cost you at least half that for just three timed runs :/
That's about all that's required really, you'll be competitive with in the class you run in, Id be supprised to see a std\prod class car up at the front with the Class A FT cars. Be an eye opener for sure!
Tuition - I'd call the tuition I got for a morning (3.5 hours) round Thruxton earlier this year tuition and worth every penny, the level of tuititon you get in the 20 mins from TD providers is debatable for race use. Yes they teach you lines and how to drive to a very good TD level and to be safe. Where as racing requires a total different style\approach which, the ones I have sat with, didn't even come close to teaching\showing (why would they it's a TD and they value their life!)
Have a look at Class A then mate, anything goes really,, have a look through my project thread, or Tony hunters, FFracing and Pete's (this one) and you will get some kind of idea.
I run a Clio with a standard engine, no cams, bodies or high compression, I do have a diff, coilovers, spherical bearing suspension, I qualify mid pack and hold my own in the race,
mikeh
ClioSport Club Member
182 Trophy
I had tuition on a Silverstone GP TD and I hated it - the instructor spent most of the time grabbing the wheel rather than telling me where I was going wrong with my lines.
The car won't be built overnight if I do it - I plan to start with suspension and a diff (although the latter more for local autotests) and getting a lot of track time in.
The car won't be built overnight if I do it - I plan to start with suspension and a diff (although the latter more for local autotests) and getting a lot of track time in.
No geo adjust means eating tyres which makes it more expensive. Shame as that's not what the series is about.
Would a smaller diameter bolt be allowed? Could gain geo just by where you happen to have the hub sat when you tighten it then
182cup & 172 racecar
Camber bolts will be allowed, as well as spacers.
Ah cool. Sensible decision.
182cup & 172 racecar
Ah cool. Sensible decision.
Powers of persuasion.
Where does it say no geometry for the production series? As I'm knackered if so! Lol
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Racing costs genuinely scare me.
I love these threads though, all of them.
I love these threads though, all of them.
WRX
Camber bolts and 10mm spacers are allowed Nick.
The prov regs did say otherwise though.
Well I'm knackered then....
25mm front spacers
15mm hub spacers
Camber shim on the rear.
182cup & 172 racecar
Yeah they're gonna need a hell of a lot of modifying. Take you days to sort that out.
I know its not that much hassle swapping them bits off, but jesus surely it would be easier to use spacers and camber shims etc to conform with MSA regs rather than saying only 10mm spacers/no geometry etc.
182cup & 172 racecar
Think yourself lucky, it was going to be nothing.
Lol, then I wouldn't have bothered doing it. I'd just join that SemSec/BARC series that runs mainly at Brands Hatch and Lydden Hill.
