172/182 spec questions

[S2 PTH]

gonna upgrade to a 172 in september next year, just go a few spec questions...

When did cruise control become standard or a readily bought option from?

Does the 182 have the face lifted digital dials, like the 2004/05 1.2s etc have?

What are the main standard features on them, ie ABS....

Finally, whats the cheapest around for a 172 and a 182 at the minute? thing is loads of people buy them and use them to commute in, lots of 60/70k 172s around. is this a problem for a small french car? coz my 1.4 has done 26k in so much as 22months and it feels fine but will it go on ok for much longer? lol

 

[S2 PTH]

oh and... thanks for reading that, any replied appreciated!

cheers

_phil

 

[fUbAr]

When did cruise control become standard or a readily bought option from?

2002 onwards, RS-1s or early RS-2s didnt have it


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Does the 182 have the face lifted digital dials, like the 2004/05 1.2s etc have?

nope, and RS-1s had the white RenaultSport dials.


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What are the main standard features on them, ie ABS....

ABS, ESP, AutoLights/Wipers, Cruise Control, Climate Control

RS-1's just had the ABS from the list above


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Finally, whats the cheapest around for a 172 and a 182 at the minute? thing is loads of people buy them and use them to commute in, lots of 60/70k 172s around. is this a problem for a small french car? coz my 1.4 has done 26k in so much as 22months and it feels fine but will it go on ok for much longer?

Mk1 172 - £4.5k
Mk2 172 - 6k
182 FF - £9k

Dont rule out the Mk1 172. Cable throttle is great and some had the alloy bonnet, lighter than carbon i tell thee! The car is also the same weight as a cup, therefore same performance too

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[ukaskew]

Dont rule out the Mk1 172. Cable throttle is great and some had the alloy bonnet, lighter than carbon i tell thee! The car is also the same weight as a cup, therefore same performance too

Couldn't agree more with this. Was never sure at first but after seeing Rob669s and a few others at meets I'm converted. I bought a Cup back in May but had I had liked MK1s as much as I do now I would have probably saved a few quid and got one of those instead.

 

[S2 PTH]

yeah its just the old one doesnt look as good as my clio, and most people will look at it as a down-grade.

if im honest, all i want is a black mk2 172 with- Cruise, a modded exhaust (possibly hidden tailpipe), IK and most importantly- the rear renaultsport badges removed and the side ones changed with 1.2 8v badges just so i fit in like a normal person with a bee under the bonnet!!! oh and i might get it lowered at some point.

anyone selling all that? and i'd like to know how much my 1.4 2004 is worth too. hopefully if i dont rack too may miles until sept, it'll be worth only about £500 less than an 02 172?

 

[ukaskew]

yeah its just the old one doesnt look as good as my clio, and most people will look at it as a down-grade.

Hehe, my family wondered what the hell I was doing when I sold my Dynamique (sun roof, air con, auto-lights, reflecting windscreen etc) and bought a Cup (no ABS, ESP, air-con or auto-lights, thin glass, no spare wheel etc!), they didn't quite understand the power increase!

Don't worry what others think, just get what you are comfortable with and can afford.

 

[fUbAr]

and i'd like to know how much my 1.4 2004 is worth too. hopefully if i dont rack too may miles until sept, it'll be worth only about £500 less than an 02 172?

i very much doubt your car will be worth 172 money when you sell.

 

[Neil82]

When did cruise control become standard or a readily bought option from?

2002 onwards, RS-1s or early RS-2s didnt have it


​

Does the 182 have the face lifted digital dials, like the 2004/05 1.2s etc have?

nope, and RS-1s had the white RenaultSport dials.


​

What are the main standard features on them, ie ABS....

ABS, ESP, AutoLights/Wipers, Cruise Control, Climate Control

RS-1's just had the ABS from the list above


​

Finally, whats the cheapest around for a 172 and a 182 at the minute? thing is loads of people buy them and use them to commute in, lots of 60/70k 172s around. is this a problem for a small french car? coz my 1.4 has done 26k in so much as 22months and it feels fine but will it go on ok for much longer?

Mk1 172 - £4.5k
Mk2 172 - 6k
182 FF - £9k

Dont rule out the Mk1 172. Cable throttle is great and some had the alloy bonnet, lighter than carbon i tell thee! The car is also the same weight as a cup, therefore same performance too

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The mark 1 172 weighs roughly 1100 KG (even with the alloy bonnet) as tested by a few Clio Sport members on a weighbridge. The mark 2 weighs about 1110 kg.

 

[Martin_172]

thing is loads of people buy them and use them to commute in, lots of 60/70k 172s around. is this a problem for a small french car? coz my 1.4 has done 26k in so much as 22months and it feels fine but will it go on ok for much longer? lol

my 1.2 16v has done 117,000 (not a typo actually ment 117,000) miles in 3 years and is still running as well as the day it left the factory the 1.2 16v engine was built to a budget too, so i would say the 2.0 16v F4R lump will be more reliable but having all that power asks for people to abuse them! make sure you find one thats been well looked after and serviced regularly, and continue to service it regularly and it will be fine. mine has been serviced every 18,000 miles since new and runs perfectly

 

[edde]

The F4R engine 9ie 172/182 ) is a development and a better engine than the F7R/P fitted to the Williams and Vlvers so its stronger and better built. F7/R engine are still going strong with over 200k there a few over 300k so long as there maintained correctly they'll last almost forever.
I'd have no issues buying a high milage car so long as it motorway miles.
The dci and 1.2 engine are the cheap weak engines and with a hard driver get more abuse than a 2.0 would with the same driver and there not realy built for it. Since there are 1.2 on here with 80k or more with no prolems and my dci's on 54k with no problems I'd think a 2.0 is a safe bet. Yozza's engine was driven hard for 80k, constant track days, 8k red line and only after 80k gave up and thats not down to anything but whats most likely a weak manurfacturing bolt.
Evena new engine is only £1.2k or a replacment second hadn unit it £500 or so.

 

[JayGTT]

The mark 1 172 weighs roughly 1100 KG (even with the alloy bonnet) as tested by a few Clio Sport members on a weighbridge. The mark 2 weighs about 1110 kg.

so the BIGGER wheels, the cruise control equipment, auto lights, auto windscreen wipers, climate control big fat heavy bonnet weighs just 10 KILOS??? lol the alloy bonnet on mine weighs 10kg's lighter then the phase 2 one.

i would say theres a good 50kg between the two models IMO

 

[JayJo]

Love the rivalry building up between 172/182

Basically, they are both great cars, last for ages, can get loads of spec if you want it and they offer so many "smiles per mile" (especially a stripped out Phase 1 172 ;-))

A Phase 1 has enough spec: air con, leather, 4x airbags, smaller steering wheel and a metal gear knob - how ofter do you really need cruise, head lamp wash, auto lights etc. Great creature comforts and that is the appeal of the 172 & 182.

Just enjoy and buy want you can afford as others have said

 

[Neil82]

so the BIGGER wheels, the cruise control equipment, auto lights, auto windscreen wipers, climate control big fat heavy bonnet weighs just 10 KILOS??? lol the alloy bonnet on mine weighs 10kg's lighter then the phase 2 one.

i would say theres a good 50kg between the two models IMO

LMAO why are you arguing?

Climate control you say? Well air con will have the same gubbins minus a fancier control interface, auto windscreen wipers, cruise control, auto lights lol are you for real? The wheels will weigh more, and the alloy bonnet but even if it was 10 kg lighter the mark 1 172 its still going to be a good 70-80 kg more than a Cup.

In my experience of the mark 1 172 it is noticeablly slower than your average Cup.

 

[lawrence]

When did cruise control become standard or a readily bought option from?

2002 onwards, RS-1s or early RS-2s didnt have it


​

Does the 182 have the face lifted digital dials, like the 2004/05 1.2s etc have?

nope, and RS-1s had the white RenaultSport dials.


​

What are the main standard features on them, ie ABS....

ABS, ESP, AutoLights/Wipers, Cruise Control, Climate Control

RS-1's just had the ABS from the list above


​

Finally, whats the cheapest around for a 172 and a 182 at the minute? thing is loads of people buy them and use them to commute in, lots of 60/70k 172s around. is this a problem for a small french car? coz my 1.4 has done 26k in so much as 22months and it feels fine but will it go on ok for much longer?

Mk1 172 - £4.5k
Mk2 172 - 6k
182 FF - £9k

Dont rule out the Mk1 172. Cable throttle is great and some had the alloy bonnet, lighter than carbon i tell thee! The car is also the same weight as a cup, therefore same performance too

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last quote.........mk1 172s are marginally faster than the mk2 172s and cups, dunno why they just are

 

[ant]

early 172 mkII phII's dont have ESP or traction control.


which is nice

 

[Ibanezman]

early 172 mkII phII's dont have ESP or traction control.


which is nice

Especially noticed when setting off up a steep hell on these wet\greasy roads, as I have found a few times recently , never gone so fast stood still lol