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Megane r26
Just browsed through the thread, nice work so far laine. Looking forward to seeing the results
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
Looking good, regarding the "controversial pipe" chrome heat soaks quite bad in comparision to wrap/black, you can barely touch mine after a spirited drive.
Hope it makes good power, the gen90 will help.
Hope it makes good power, the gen90 will help.
Milltek'd clio 182
be good to see what its running
KTM 990 SD / S60 D5
Sweet, when's it getting mapped.
The laws of physics disagrees with you there TBH mate, shiney light coloured surfaces reflect heat, where as dark matt finishes absorb and radiate far better.
Evo 5 RS
black absorbs heat lol Simple physics yo.
Realllllly tidy install this.
Realllllly tidy install this.
Mine runs about 40 degrees inlet temp on a summers evening (ie 20+ outside temp in first place) when out mapping, no doubt a little higher on a short track like llandow during the day though, and obv lower in the winter.
Ricardos
ClioSport Club Member
LY 200 EDC
Chip, is that with the Focus FMIC in place? I was just wondering how efficient these universal intercoolers that are on E Bay for the Clio and K Tecs FMiC. 1 can assume that on low boost with the FMIC size there might not be anything to worry about or whether a little R&D went into charge temps, I/C dimension, core efficiency etc
Yes mine is a focus ST intercooler.
The cheap universal intercoolers dont work as well as a decent quality (ie OEM) one of the same size based on the testing we have done, if you want a cheap cooler you are better off with a secondhand one from another car than an 80 quid ebay job that needs to be far bigger to work as well IMHO
Obviously if funds arent an issue get someone like Spec-R to custom make you one with the latest garrett core, its mental how small they can be and work well, Ive got mates with 500bhp cossies that have been able to go smaller on their intecoolers with no ill effects thanks to the latest core technology, but expect a bill of 800 quid or so!
(this is the route I will probably go down with my Mk1 TBH)
The cheap universal intercoolers dont work as well as a decent quality (ie OEM) one of the same size based on the testing we have done, if you want a cheap cooler you are better off with a secondhand one from another car than an 80 quid ebay job that needs to be far bigger to work as well IMHO
Obviously if funds arent an issue get someone like Spec-R to custom make you one with the latest garrett core, its mental how small they can be and work well, Ive got mates with 500bhp cossies that have been able to go smaller on their intecoolers with no ill effects thanks to the latest core technology, but expect a bill of 800 quid or so!
(this is the route I will probably go down with my Mk1 TBH)
Mine is a universal Toyosport jobby, by all acounts not the best quality or cooling ability. But i gave them a google, and apart from fitment issues (not an issue for me as its universal and not car specific), they aparently keep the charge temps down quite well.
The intercooler i have is literally on the limit of what is going to fit behind the front bumper though.
Id love a Forge item, or something expensive and fancy, but ill see what the charge temps are when mapping and report back
and then if im struggling with that upgrade to a better item.
The intercooler i have is literally on the limit of what is going to fit behind the front bumper though.
Id love a Forge item, or something expensive and fancy, but ill see what the charge temps are when mapping and report back
and then if im struggling with that upgrade to a better item.
Waitey
ClioSport Club Member
Alpina D3, AC Cobra
When I built my MX-5 turbo it used a Link ECU so I had a IAT sensor just before the throttle body.
I had a cheapo intercooler off the bay and it was brilliant. Never really got to be more than 10 degrees above ambient.
If it was really cold outside you could get an intake temp in the minus range.
I had a cheapo intercooler off the bay and it was brilliant. Never really got to be more than 10 degrees above ambient.
If it was really cold outside you could get an intake temp in the minus range.
Mine is a universal Toyosport jobby, by all acounts not the best quality or cooling ability. But i gave them a google, and apart from fitment issues (not an issue for me as its universal and not car specific), they aparently keep the charge temps down quite well.
The intercooler i have is literally on the limit of what is going to fit behind the front bumper though.
Id love a Forge item, or something expensive and fancy, but ill see what the charge temps are when mapping and report back
I've used a larger version of the same thing on 200sx's, they're fine, Probably better available, but it's questionable if you need it for the power and boost you'll run.
It will get hot on the dyno no matter what, fans just can't replicate the airflow you get on the road.
I also painted my intercooler in matt black
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
eBay/ktec same intercooler, I managed to get a universal forge of eBay for £80
Top PTFE gasket fitted today again with the idea being "every degree less, helps!", decided against the lower as i DIY matched my inlets when i had my engine in pieces and ended up porting too much and then had to port the head out to match and the lower gasket so don't want to ever touch those again where possible.
Pissed right off fitted new filter drove it a couple of days and it has slipped off the end of the pipe (through engine movement i guess), and torn the flimsy rubber neck right off. So i've had to pikey it with a piece of silicon hose and black silicon sealed it onto the filter, not happy at all (but i guess its my own fault).
Also took it for a quick drive earlier with the wastegate hooked up to test the turbo (i couldnt resist the urge anymore), only took it up to 2-3psi with minial throttle for split seconds but it works as it should and makes the fruity compressor stall noises Wastegate now dissconected again lol.
You'll also notice below i "stud'n'nut" converted the top plenum fixture points, i did this 1) i was bored 2) i get a little nervous about tightening as i know it wouldnt take much to strip them. 3) wanted to tighten them pretty tight for extra clamping on PTFE gasket. All works well
Pissed right off fitted new filter drove it a couple of days and it has slipped off the end of the pipe (through engine movement i guess), and torn the flimsy rubber neck right off. So i've had to pikey it with a piece of silicon hose and black silicon sealed it onto the filter, not happy at all (but i guess its my own fault).
Also took it for a quick drive earlier with the wastegate hooked up to test the turbo (i couldnt resist the urge anymore), only took it up to 2-3psi with minial throttle for split seconds but it works as it should and makes the fruity compressor stall noises
Wastegate now dissconected again lol.You'll also notice below i "stud'n'nut" converted the top plenum fixture points, i did this 1) i was bored 2) i get a little nervous about tightening as i know it wouldnt take much to strip them. 3) wanted to tighten them pretty tight for extra clamping on PTFE gasket. All works well
An engine calibration toi suit the turbo setup is mandatory you'd melt the engine pretty at full throttle without one. As above its booked at Ktec on 4th October.
Turbocharger model numbers confuse the fook out of me, sooo many different variants. But i would take a stab at saying the T28 will have a bigger compressor and turbine than a T25. But the T25 Hybrid would have a T28 compressor while keeping the smaller T25 turbine. Therefore giving it a slightly bigger flow capacity.
Made a headshield this afternoon out of boredom.
Standard map sensor maxes out atmospheric pressure, so if you run boost, it will go very lean and hence melt very quickly.
Ktec mounts fitted this evening, old ones were no doubt the originals and showing their age a bit. Car already has a polybushed dog bone.
But i decided the OE mounts will soon wear out with the extra torque, aswell as putting strain on the downpipe from any extra movement. Uprated mounts was a no brainer.
Oil change tommorow, then its ready to go to Ktec
But i decided the OE mounts will soon wear out with the extra torque, aswell as putting strain on the downpipe from any extra movement. Uprated mounts was a no brainer.
Oil change tommorow, then its ready to go to Ktec
Yeah nimbus is great stuff, love the fact you can cut it with kitchen sccisors Just watch out for the edges, they can be SHARP!
Yeah the silicon didnt last long the filters pulled off, im going to try some strong adhesive tommorow as a last resort, f**king hate ruining brand new things. I must have had the last one from the Jetex stock? lol
May replace with the pipercross, but always been told a turbo should be run with a cotton gauze, but guess it doesnt *really* matter.
Just watch out for the edges, they can be SHARP!Yeah the silicon didnt last long the filters pulled off, im going to try some strong adhesive tommorow as a last resort, f**king hate ruining brand new things. I must have had the last one from the Jetex stock? lol
May replace with the pipercross, but always been told a turbo should be run with a cotton gauze, but guess it doesnt *really* matter.
Clio T 314hp c43 AMG
1 bar above
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
No that its a major thing as it cant flow much air but its a good idea to block off the pin prick hole in stainer plate. Although a very small amount you dont really want to blow boost into the crankcase.
Never though of that! valid point, i need to get some super duper glue later as the black silicon didnt hold the make shift neck on my air filter. so ill glue up the the hole later aswell
stevo172-RWD
ClioSport Club Member
clio 172 rwd
That's how mine ran too
KTM 990 SD / S60 D5
Good luck with the mapping tomorrow.
172 cup, Impreza P1
The way I understand it, it is not about flow of coolant through the turbo when it is running, it is the syphon effect when the engine is off. If you use the feed from the thermostat to the header tank for your turbo, there is an air gap at the top of the header tank and so the syphon effect will not happen and so when the engine is off there will be no heat removal from the turbo. It is the oil that cools the turbo when in use.
Cheers bud, can't wait, need to go over the car with a fine tooth combe tonight to make sure everything is tight, then touch wood this time tommorow it will be on the dyno makeing some boooooost
KTM 990 SD / S60 D5
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