182cup spec v 172cup

[tunni]

i swapped my cup yesterday for a 182 with cup spec and i must say the interior is awesome, well chuffed. the feel of a 182 is not nearly as raw as the cup, even with the same suspension. both superb motors in their own right but the rattles of the cup get annoying at times, so am i glad to be rid of the boneshaker as my bird calls it? will i miss the cup......?

ok! i am already. but i have a 182

Damn... i wish i could have both. they are so different

cup= a racing car ( our lass hates it )

182= a sort of racing car that you should get in with your slippers on (our lass loves it )

hope this helps and remember stats only matter on a track!

 

[Ian_182]

The 182 cup pack has stiffer suspension than the cup.The springs have a higher poundage rating ,the shocks are stiffer and the caster angle is 3% more than the cup.

I would guess it feels nicer because of all the sound proofing

Dont forget the legend that is phill bennet saying "no other front wheel drive car he has driven has ever handled so well"And he is quite an authority holding the lap record round the nurberg ring in a production car(radical i think)

P.S theres no way however it would handle as well as strombas williams ha ha ha .....lol

ian

 

[D-CUP]

Maybe they forgot to put the cup suspension on?

 

[Ian_182]

Thats a good point d-cup,how do you know when you pick your car up that its got the spec you ordered.Its not like you look under the car and see a different coluor shock and say"ah yes you choose cup set up ,good choice"whos to say half the cars with cup pack havent got it.Going by renaults history i wouldnt put too much faith in them

ian

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by ian 172 on 09 April 2004


The 182 cup pack has stiffer suspension than the cup.The springs have a higher poundage rating ,the shocks are stiffer and the caster angle is 3% more than the cup.

No its not...

The original Cup and the 182 with Cup suspension have similar shock & spring rates and they both have the same 3 deg of front castor!

 

[tunni]

Quote: Originally posted by D-CUP on 09 April 2004

Maybe they forgot to put the cup suspension on?

that has seriously crossed my mind already

 

[Ian_182]

Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 09 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by ian 172 on 09 April 2004


The 182 cup pack has stiffer suspension than the cup.The springs have a higher poundage rating ,the shocks are stiffer and the caster angle is 3% more than the cup.

No its not...

The original Cup and the 182 with Cup suspension have similar shock & spring rates and they both have the same 3 deg of front castor!

everything i have read says it has got stiffer suspension in the form of springs and dampers,autocar and evo etc and evo quoted it having a further 3% on the caster angle for improved handling over the cup

but i guess im wrong ,ian

 

[Eddd]

Tunni too bad your lass didnt like the Cup. My two love the Ragnotti.

The like it best when we pass Porsches on the ring.

Ed

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by ian 172 on 09 April 2004


everything i have read says it has got stiffer suspension in the form of springs and dampers,autocar and evo etc and evo quoted it having a further 3% on the caster angle for improved handling over the cup

but i guess im wrong ,ian

So you trust magazines that much?!

Look at the reviews in both Autocar & Evo and they both claim different things from the car...

i.e.

Evo say the 182 is 69kg heavier than a Cup, wheras Autocar think the 182 weighs 111kg more than a Cup!!!



Magazines often get it wrong!

 

[.:xTreme:.]

what is the truth..about weight I mean??

And tell us what you thought of the Megane RS!!!

 

[Ian_182]

ok mate you have made a valid point,but do we agree on phill bennetts words that he thinks its the finest handling fwd car hes been in

ian

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by .:xTreme:. on 09 April 2004


what is the truth..about weight I mean??

Well, the Cup weighs 1021kg and the 182 weighs 1080kg, so neither of them were correct...

Quote:


And tell us what you thought of the Megane RS!!!

You not read my post about it???

Do a search...