David James
ClioSport Club Member
E36 M3,172 cup
Bloody hell that's not good at all
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Clio 172 cup rally/race/track car
- Thread starter Nathan Evans
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JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
The subframes and side mounts on a seat will be a one time use thing in a big crash.
Ideally replace the lot.
Ideally replace the lot.
Nathan Evans
ClioSport Club Member
Audi rs3/Clio 172cup
Of course but it should never tear like that
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
Has it had any crashes on it previously?
Twingo 1??
ClioSport Club Member
Twingo 133 Cup,
So are them subframes just bolted to the original seat mounting points or on welded in bars? They definitely shouldn't of done what they have given that the hit wasn't as bad as it could of been.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
Yeah, the subframes aren't FIA rated unfortunately.
massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
Pretty worrying that subframe, even in a road car to be honest, let alone a rally car. As @Pauleds suggests, I'd put in a weld-in kit after this weekend. I put one in in the Escort. So much better than anything bolt in, if a bit of a pain to get lined up.
Someone on here welded some mounts in to the latest FIA spec - it might have been @Tomotek?
Someone on here welded some mounts in to the latest FIA spec - it might have been @Tomotek?
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
Yes he did.
The ones pictured above aren't allowed anymore iirc because you aren't able to weld all the way round properly or something like that. I seem to remember you have to weld the plates in and then bolt the rails to the plates?
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
Mentioned here
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TomoTek - 182 Track Build here we come!...
Excellent work looks like you have an OMP obsession like me lol. Love the strenghtening plates i did the same on my nova bottom arms and will be doing the same on these when i change the engine. Yeah! I love all OMP's products, I get a good discount too which definitely swayed my decision ;)...
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massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
They are a bit of a pain to weld all the way round. I have never known anyone to be pulled up for them though. It wasn't mentioned when I did an event earlier this year, but they usually only check the seat/harness/extinguisher dates and the pull cables.
A lot of cars would need new seat mounts if they banned them, that's for sure!
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
It's only an FIA reg, so most stuff in the UK is only MSUK.
If MSUK did chose to follow the FIA reg it would mean 1000's of people would require new mounts like you say.
massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
It wouldn't surprise me if it comes eventually. Motorsport UK seem to have started to adopt more FIA stuff. Regardless, I'll go FIA spec in my next car just to be safe!
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Titanium 182
Always build to FIA and SFI standards if you can.
Especially rally stuff when there's chance you might want to race it in Europe, it'll need it.
Nathan Evans
ClioSport Club Member
Audi rs3/Clio 172cup
Mixed day Hills Ford Three Shires stages.
Having a relatively good start the clutch let go half way through ss3, driving the stage with no clutch which finally give up the ghost on the road section.
A 70 min round trip drive to Apex for a clutch and some quick spannering by brother and dad. The clutch was done is around an hour. Some going on your back. But we’ve had this subframe off so much it falls off now.
Managed to do the last loop. Put in some good stage times but 3 out the 6 stages were my 1st pass through. So was never going to be right up there with the guys on there 3rd pass.
Looking at the times I would of been in the fight for 3rd/4th which was what the goal was with over 30 starters in the class. I just need 50 more bhp and a clicky to have a fair fight
Great day and some good stages, definitely be back next year
Onboard of one of the longest stages of the day. No sound but shows how fast the narrow lanes are topping 100mph at one point
Having a relatively good start the clutch let go half way through ss3, driving the stage with no clutch which finally give up the ghost on the road section.
A 70 min round trip drive to Apex for a clutch and some quick spannering by brother and dad. The clutch was done is around an hour. Some going on your back. But we’ve had this subframe off so much it falls off now.
Managed to do the last loop. Put in some good stage times but 3 out the 6 stages were my 1st pass through. So was never going to be right up there with the guys on there 3rd pass.
Looking at the times I would of been in the fight for 3rd/4th which was what the goal was with over 30 starters in the class. I just need 50 more bhp and a clicky to have a fair fight
Great day and some good stages, definitely be back next year
Onboard of one of the longest stages of the day. No sound but shows how fast the narrow lanes are topping 100mph at one point
massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
A shame about the issue, but you were setting decent times, which is encouraging.
Get a Sadev in this and it will be a rocket. How much does it weigh?
Get a Sadev in this and it will be a rocket. How much does it weigh?
Twingo 1??
ClioSport Club Member
Twingo 133 Cup,
Nothing like the buzz of over 100 down a stage with the car moving around.
Keep up all the good work.
Keep up all the good work.
Nathan Evans
ClioSport Club Member
Audi rs3/Clio 172cup
I’m not sure how much it weighs but I don’t think it’s the lightest one about. Still got full interior loom and heaters.
Yeah it’s for sale at the minute as the ultimate spec rally clio has come for sale minus the engine. So if mines goes I’ll be buying that
Them lanes were amazing too. So fast and flowing. Looking forward to the next closed road event
Conor03
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 172 cup
Hope everything goes to plan for you, i follow you on instagram and yours looks like it goes well
Twingo 1??
ClioSport Club Member
Twingo 133 Cup,
Ultimate Clio, Steve Quigleys car?
Closed roads are definitely more fun than the circuit and range stuff.
Closed roads are definitely more fun than the circuit and range stuff.
Nathan Evans
ClioSport Club Member
Audi rs3/Clio 172cup
Not his but car is pretty much identical. With a few better bits on it and steering wheel on the right side
Twingo 1??
ClioSport Club Member
Twingo 133 Cup,
Don't think I could do lhd. I know his car was a giant killer it was always quick when I seen it and got very good results. So if its better should be good!Not his but car is pretty much identical. With a few better bits on it and steering wheel on the right side
I will be happy to even get back out on the stages at the back in my little shopping car.
Nathan Evans
ClioSport Club Member
Audi rs3/Clio 172cup
massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
Not seen anything of Steve lately, has he taken a step back?
Link to the new car?
Link to the new car?
Nathan Evans
ClioSport Club Member
Audi rs3/Clio 172cup
He’s still got it. Was talk about a millington going in it but don’t think that’s happening now
massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
Ah ok. Not sure I would go down that route to be honest. The problem with going up to the big engine is that you also have to run heavier. Chris West who runs the 306 in the MSN championship has even talked of going back to a 2.0-litre lump I'm told, as he could the run car a lot lighter.