Clio 172 - slow progress project

[Radugns]

Once I'm back on the laptop I will have a look at what pics I have to help you.

What I've seen on your pics, is that on rear is without spacer, and on front aprox 1/3 thread on upper side and 2/3 on lower side (upper and lower with the nut)

 

[Jekyll]

That sounds about right.

I must admit, I've been busy the last couple if nights but I'll try and get some better pics over the weekend for you, with measurements.

 

[Radugns]

With the rear seats removed, it sits a little bit higher, but it handles better than the standard setup. Cup interior will the next mod and then the engine work.

Radu

 

[Radugns]

Kind of ph1 tails

 

[Jekyll]

Sorry it's late but I've taken some pics for you.

So the rears are as the kit comes, just without these:

I hope that helps.

 

[Radugns]

Thank you mate! It is ok, I will check mine and if needed make corrections.

 

[Radugns]

Little by little

172 cup wishbones with black bushes.
I will receive a 197 inlet for my engine...so lot of work to come.

 

[Optimista]

i'm still waiting on that brakes

 

[Radugns]

Just to be spring weather and I will post here. Thanks

 

[Radugns]

Special for you, @Optimista

 

[Optimista]

oh yes, oh yes!!

So, to repeat, the calipers are off grand espace v6 and 300mm scenic discs? Bolt on?

 

[Radugns]

Yes, are from grand espace, or any other Renault that uses 2 pot calipers. Bolt on without any mods. And the discs are from scenic, also bolt on without any mods.

oh yes, oh yes!!

So, to repeat, the calipers are off grand espace v6 and 300mm scenic discs? Bolt on?

 

[Optimista]

Great! Did you test them out yet? how do they brake?

 

[Radugns]

I have just install them and need some brake in for about 100miles and I will post later.

 

[Radugns]

First parts for my engine rebuild
-197 inlet, will be fitted with a lot of head work and custom gaskets
-64mm throttle body to match the inlet hole. It is not Renault tb.

Radu

 

[Radugns]

Easy steps
Thanks to @Mbeau
Next will be adapting the 197 manifold to a 182 head from @Budgie

Radu

 

[Optimista]

Any update on brakes, is it worth it?

 

[Radugns]

Hi,
The pedal is different, a bit longer travel, but the brake is better.
If it worth? Well I got the calipers for nothing, just bought new o-rings, disc and pads. And bacause the pads and discs need to be replaced anyway it worth. But if they do not need to be replace, it does not worth.
Keep in mind that bigger disc and pads will wear less.

 

[Optimista]

And difference in braking performance?

 

[Radugns]

Without tracking the car I can't say anything. I like the setup, but more for look than performance.

 

[Radugns]

Weld the cam cover due to shipping damaged and paint.

Dissasemble the head and make a template for 197 inlet.

With this template I can mark the port for the 197 inlet. It will need some weld also to be done properly.

I will tap new holes and hopefully the 197 inlet will fit on the 1*2 head making it a 192 head :smile:

 

[Radugns]

Weld and matched 182 head to fit 197 inlet. The head was filled using Al welding rod and then ported. The ports will be finished using sand paper later.

 

[Radugns]

All the ports are done and ready for polishing using sandpaper.
The template was also used on the lower inlet to fully match the head.

Thanks,
Radu

 

[Radugns]

Repaint in the cam cover and a small test fit.

A clear coat and good to go

The welding

And the milling for screw head

And test fit the inlet

Thanks,
Radu

 

[Radugns]

I clean a little the cylinder head...

 

[Radugns]

 

[Radugns]

New oem valves and piston rings. The engine top rebuild is done. New valves, new guides, new seals, recut seats and lapped valves.

and done

 

[Optimista]

Do you think the calipers would fit on 280mm disc carrier? Because 300mm doesen't fit under 15, right?

 

[Radugns]

You can't mix them, because the caliper has a fix position, so using 280mm will not help you. There were some here using 20mm spacers on et43 wheels and could fit this calipers on 15". The problem is that I sold the 15 alloys to can check this.

 

[Radugns]

Make this gasket for a good fit of the plenum.

Rebuild a pair of Brembos

Reuse the oem brake pistons, just a small touch.

Clean waterpump pulley

Clean, rust convert and paint the engine block.

Soon I will make adapters to can fit Brembos, hope they will came up nice as they will be home made

 

[Mbeau]

Block looks really good mate. Bet you can't wait to get it back together.

 

[Radugns]

Block looks really good mate. Bet you can't wait to get it back together.

I will resurface the bloc by 0.05mm to have a better contact with the head and new gasket. Full ARP inside, main, rod and head and reassemble everything this month.

Thanks for all parts, mate

 

[YorkshireKyle]

Can’t wait to see this back together with the 192 head[emoji6][emoji1303]

 

[haimsey]

Good work so far, interested to see the final engine build

 

[Radugns]

0.04mm skim from the engine surface. So overall was under 0.2mm skimming, so compression will be slightly under 11.2:1. Maybe I will get the 0.7mm thickness Elring gasket, but not so sure if they make that gasket of really 0.7mm and not of 0.65mm like OE specs.

 

[Radugns]

The engine block was cleaned, lot of brake cleaner, then lot of oil and patient. Clean each hole and then add new oil into oil pump hole and blown with air to fully lube everything.
I have to wait 2 weeks until ARP will arrive from US.

 

[Radugns]

I forgot to post.
The big end bearings were original ones with the short part number (the last 6 digits from the 10 digit part number) and they still look like new.
The main bearings also were the oem ones, but one of then have a broken piece. It was still on the bearing, and when I remove the bearing it falls off.
I was lucky, no damage on crankshaft

 

[Radugns]

And a trip to Transfagarasan

 

[Radugns]

Clean the block

And a smallest Clio meeting on transfagarasan )

^his engine bay

 

[Radugns]

After I clean the old pistons I realize they were gone, the coating on them is damaged. So...new 4 oem pistons on next order. I have now all the parts needed to put my engine together. Here is a list with everything.
Bottom end:
-resurfaced engine block and deglazed
-new OE big end bearings
-new OE main bearings
-new OE crank pulley
-new OE Crank Sprocket with key
-new OE oil pump and chain
-new OE pistons
-new OE piston rings
-ARP big end bolts
-ARP main bolts
-new OE water pump

Top end:
-resurfaced head and ported
-OE head gasket
-new OE intake and exhaust valves
-new OE guides
-197 camshaft
-new OE dephaser
-ARP head bolts
-new OE stem seals

Of course OE cambelt with metal idler, OE aux kit with tensioner and a good locking tool for the 197 cams.
I measure the crankshaft and seems to be fine, I will also plastigauge everything and use assembly lube when everything is fine.

It is my first engine and collect parts from later last year )