Daniels Blue 182.

Mash. · Jul 6, 2016

With a full cage as well, but thats nothing I've seen caged clios below 830kg.

incy-spider · Jul 6, 2016

I have always found ds2500 take some serious bedding in! Worked well once done

S-JM · Jul 6, 2016

Car looked great Dan, was good to briefly meet you at the services on the way. Car looked swell on track!

Mr Plums · Jul 6, 2016

JamesBryan said:
200kg less than standard... what have you stripped off it!

The engine and box.

JamesBryan · Jul 6, 2016

Christ Almighty said:
The engine and box.

Lol 😂 must have!

That's a lot of weight saving considering it has a full cage too, so 30-40kg for that.

Welsh.Dan · Jul 6, 2016

I have 2 bottles of motul 660 in my garage. Bought for my Clio, but sold it before I changed fluid. Been on shelf for 6 months.

I'd probably sell you them if interested? Save yourself a few quid. It's not cheap stuff... Think the 2 set me about 40 quid

dann2707 · Jul 6, 2016

Thanks for the offer dude.

But things are going to put on the back burner for a while.

Finally decided what I'm doing and this time it's actually happening. Already started saving for it.

I am...

Getting a 225 engine, currently on the lookout for one if anyone sees one cheap please holla at me.

And getting a plug and play ecu from Dan @ sjm.

Removing my engine, fitting this one and remapping it. Should see a steady 260bhp for a fraction of the price of a medium boost conversion too.

I just need room to do it really. And will be commencing after summer ends. Going to be taking Boris off the road. Which will also save me money too as currently that's £80 a month in tax and insurance then fuel on top.

Can't wait. If I'm honest I don't even need the extra power I just want to take the project into a new direction because I love a challenge and I just neeeeeeed to tinker.

Filters · Jul 6, 2016

I was running DS1.11s at blyton and found them to be really responsive. Much better than ds2500s I've had in the past and had a much better feel to them. Worth a try :up:

Amos91 · Jul 6, 2016

How much do you have to change to use the 225 engine? Which gearbox will you use?

incy-spider · Jul 6, 2016

dann2707 said:
Thanks for the offer dude.

But things are going to put on the back burner for a while.

Finally decided what I'm doing and this time it's actually happening. Already started saving for it.

I am...

Getting a 225 engine, currently on the lookout for one if anyone sees one cheap please holla at me.

And getting a plug and play ecu from Dan @ sjm.

Removing my engine, fitting this one and remapping it. Should see a steady 260bhp for a fraction of the price of a medium boost conversion too.

I just need room to do it really. And will be commencing after summer ends. Going to be taking Boris off the road. Which will also save me money too as currently that's £80 a month in tax and insurance then fuel on top.

Can't wait. If I'm honest I don't even need the extra power I just want to take the project into a new direction because I love a challenge and I just neeeeeeed to tinker.

This is f**king great news Gary!!

leeds2592 · Jul 6, 2016

This is going to be brilliant!

If you need a hand (someone to pass you tools) let me know, would love to give you a hand with something like this.

dann2707 · Jul 6, 2016

Amos91 said:
How much do you have to change to use the 225 engine? Which gearbox will you use?

I am going to use my 182 box, is was refurbished quite recently so should be good to go.

From research the engine driver side mount is the same, I'd be using my gearbox so that mount lines up. Just the dogbone might not but that is simple to mock up. I could even design it myself and get it made

It's just all the other bits! This ecu works with the engine, everything is plug and play apart from one sensor which needs splicing from the meg engine which is obviously mega easy.

I have to make my own loom before for my rover metro when I did an engine conversion on that so this should in theory be easier in terms of wiring!

Anything is possible though with a bit of forward thinking.

Welsh.Dan · Jul 6, 2016

Great news. Look forward to the results!
Hopefully it'd prove to be more reliable than the turbo conversions too... Lot of people seem to get fed up of their turbo clios on here.
Engine conversion ftw

Euan94 · Jul 6, 2016

Good luck with it, will be watching with interest.

With these new ECU's coming onto the market I reckon we could see loads more engine conversions in the next couple of years. They've really taken off with the mx5's and there are turbo cars everywhere now.

Mash. · Jul 6, 2016

JamesBryan said:
Lol 😂 must have!

That's a lot of weight saving considering it has a full cage too, so 30-40kg for that.

Are you really that unaware of the weight you can get these cars too?

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Mash. · Jul 6, 2016

Plans sound good dan, then you'll have scope to put a r26 box in it when you need to 'tinker' again!

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Inequality Street · Jul 6, 2016

So excited. Wish you lived closer. Move down South! (You can leave the accent behind too xx)

JamesBryan · Jul 6, 2016

Mash. said:
Are you really that unaware of the weight you can get these cars too?

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Obviously yeah, otherwise i wouldn't seem so surprised.

200kgs is a lot cosidering most bits on the car weigh naff all.

Mash. · Jul 6, 2016

JamesBryan said:
Obviously yeah, otherwise i wouldn't seem so surprised.

200kgs is a lot cosidering most bits on the car weigh naff all.

Lol ok mate, heres a photo of when it was at its heaviest

Since then, panels have been chopped more 4kg, dash has been removed 2kg, loom has been chopped around 2kg, passengers seat removed with steel sidemounts 12kg, fiberglass spoiler 2.5kg reduction, and a few other things Ive forgotten about.

Will be corner weighting it this month so should be sub 880kg im hoping.

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Mr Plums · Jul 6, 2016

Im sure its not as straight forward as putting in a megane engine mate, i was reading up about it before i had mine built and it costs more to do the megane engine swap.

JP83 · Jul 6, 2016

Mash. said:
Lol ok mate, heres a photo of when it was at its heaviest

Since then, panels have been chopped more 4kg, dash has been removed 2kg, loom has been chopped around 2kg, passengers seat removed with steel sidemounts 12kg, fiberglass spoiler 2.5kg reduction, and a few other things Ive forgotten about.

Will be corner weighting it this month so should be sub 880kg im hoping.

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Sound deadening stuff, the carpet, and foam stuff. That must all be about 20-25kg!

JamesBryan · Jul 6, 2016

Christ Almighty said:
Im sure its not as straight forward as putting in a megane engine mate, i was reading up about it before i had mine built and it costs more to do the megane engine swap.

Driveshafts are the main headache iirc?

dann2707 · Jul 6, 2016

Christ Almighty said:
Im sure its not as straight forward as putting in a megane engine mate, i was reading up about it before i had mine built and it costs more to do the megane engine swap.

If you're using the megane gearbox its a pain as you need to convert the clutch to hydraulic, mounts don't line up and the shafts aren't the right size either. Also need to figure out gear linkages etc.

Ol’ Tarby · Jul 6, 2016

Never actually got to have a look round your car at the weekend mate, but the plans sound good

I'll be keeping an eye on progress

incy-spider · Jul 6, 2016

dann2707 said:
If you're using the megane gearbox its a pain as you need to convert the clutch to hydraulic, mounts don't line up and the shafts aren't the right size either. Also need to figure out gear linkages etc.

Hey mate, do the bolt holes on the Jc5 line up with the bolt holes on the Megane block? I always thought people use the F4R block with the F4Rt internals, head etc??

alex_s2b · Jul 6, 2016

alex_s2b · Jul 6, 2016

Mash. said:
Lol ok mate, heres a photo of when it was at its heaviest

Since then, panels have been chopped more 4kg, dash has been removed 2kg, loom has been chopped around 2kg, passengers seat removed with steel sidemounts 12kg, fiberglass spoiler 2.5kg reduction, and a few other things Ive forgotten about.

Will be corner weighting it this month so should be sub 880kg im hoping.

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Your thumb looks remarkably like a penis on first glance

Mr Plums · Jul 6, 2016

alex_s2b said:
Your thumb looks remarkably like a penis on first glance

Genuine lols.

Mash. · Jul 6, 2016

alex_s2b said:
Your thumb looks remarkably like a penis on first glance

Its not mine, bur yeah i could see the resemblance

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Mash. · Jul 6, 2016

JP83 said:
Sound deadening stuff, the carpet, and foam stuff. That must all be about 20-25kg!

So many little bit thats all add up, heater matrix and loom was another biggy 10+ then's theres steel panels etc

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RMDavis · Jul 6, 2016

dann2707 said:
Thanks for the offer dude.

But things are going to put on the back burner for a while.

Finally decided what I'm doing and this time it's actually happening. Already started saving for it.

I am...

Getting a 225 engine, currently on the lookout for one if anyone sees one cheap please holla at me.

And getting a plug and play ecu from Dan @ sjm.

Removing my engine, fitting this one and remapping it. Should see a steady 260bhp for a fraction of the price of a medium boost conversion too.

I just need room to do it really. And will be commencing after summer ends. Going to be taking Boris off the road. Which will also save me money too as currently that's £80 a month in tax and insurance then fuel on top.

Can't wait. If I'm honest I don't even need the extra power I just want to take the project into a new direction because I love a challenge and I just neeeeeeed to tinker.

The cat's out the bag...

Cannot wait bud!

(never understood that saying)

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dann2707 · Jul 7, 2016

Cheers for the comments, even if it is full of dick fingers

I went to remove my headlining tonight as I was planning on dying it black.

But... i think I really like it without!

20160707_195817 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160707_195832 by dann2707, on Flickr

And I think stripping is now going to have to commence!

KitsonRis · Jul 7, 2016

If you are going to take the sound deadening off the roof with a heat gun, make sure there is no moisture on the outside on top of the roof.....my roof was wet and I burnt water marks into the lacquer and the roof was ruined.

Djw John · Jul 7, 2016

No headlining is a massive pain in the hoop when it gets cold cos you get a huge amount of condensation that drips on you. Or in winter you defrost it with the heater and then it drips on you!

dann2707 · Jul 10, 2016

Well today I bit the bullet. It was already half getting there so decided to just go for it.

It's mad how much this weighs and adds up!

20160710_134952 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_141922 by dann2707, on Flickr

I will be de-tarring when I get my heatgun from home

20160710_141937 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_144102 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_144115_HDR by dann2707, on Flickr

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20160710_153416 by dann2707, on Flickr

I was always going to do it I guess and if i'm going the full weight weenie it will be hilarious with 260bhp!

Plans are to tidy the wiring looms too, remove unnecessary wires. I want it all hidden so you just see bare metal.

this s**t is getting real!

Gus · Jul 10, 2016

Looking good, dont forget the bonnet liner

incy-spider · Jul 10, 2016

dann2707 said:
Well today I bit the bullet. It was already half getting there so decided to just go for it.

It's mad how much this weighs and adds up!

20160710_134952 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_141922 by dann2707, on Flickr

I will be de-tarring when I get my heatgun from home

20160710_141937 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_144102 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_144115_HDR by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_144223_HDR by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_153353 by dann2707, on Flickr

20160710_153416 by dann2707, on Flickr

I was always going to do it I guess and if i'm going the full weight weenie it will be hilarious with 260bhp!

Plans are to tidy the wiring looms too, remove unnecessary wires. I want it all hidden so you just see bare metal.

this s**t is getting real!

Power to weight will be a good bragging right. I always said though with all that power, comfort is something that I had to have.... Are you going to get some different springs now? The billies may need to go?

haimsey · Jul 11, 2016

I was also surprised at how much all the plastics seemed to weigh by the time I had pulled them out. Just makes driving in the rain worse, never in my life have I had to pull over as much for a quick wee on a slip road.

Inequality Street · Jul 11, 2016

Dan, whilst you're doing looms and wire hiding, keep me informed on whatsapp throughout! Thats what I want to do over the next few weeks!

dann2707 · Jul 11, 2016

incy-spider said:
Power to weight will be a good bragging right. I always said though with all that power, comfort is something that I had to have.... Are you going to get some different springs now? The billies may need to go?

I think I might keep them mate as they are what make the car so bearable to drive. If I went stiffer it would make day to day driving horrible!

haimsey said:
I was also surprised at how much all the plastics seemed to weigh by the time I had pulled them out. Just makes driving in the rain worse, never in my life have I had to pull over as much for a quick wee on a slip road.

It's mental! haha that made me laugh. Just make a sheewee in your seat problem solved.

RyG said:
Dan, whilst you're doing looms and wire hiding, keep me informed on whatsapp throughout! Thats what I want to do over the next few weeks!

My car is at my Parents' house for a few weeks now as i'm out of MOT. Booked in on the 23rd though but won't be doing anything to him for a bit!

Wales is going to be fun!

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