Dr Jekyll's Ph1 172 Progress Thread

[Jekyll]

Thought I'd stick my nose in here after the chat in the ph1 appreciation thread.

The car looks very nice and clean mate, good effort so far and I bet it stops nicely too. Ph1's are win :wink:.

Haha, i didnt think you'd stay out for long. Thanks for the comment mate :smile: It does stop ok but im only on a EBC road pad so next year i will get a better pad. Probably DS2500 as i liked them in my old Wilwood kit or maybe try the Mintex1144's. I believe the pads are actually a Volvo 240 pad that fit in my Hi-Spec's.

Decided to do a little winter overhaul on the Ph1 before it starts getting too cold. Bought a few things that needed replacing:

New Elf evo oil
Oil filter and washer
Fuel filter
New wiper blades
New headlight bulbs
Screen wash
Coolant change to Type D
Boot panel clips

I decided i wanted to remove the 5k HID's as they flicker when first lit up and and i have to change the pins everytime i get new bulbs for them so after a few read ups i got the Osram Nightbreakers Unlimited. The colour is more yellow than the blue 5k's but changing a bulb will be easier and there's less clutter in the bay. Think of all that weight saving!

HID's on the left, Nightbreakers on the right.

Next up was a idea that i got from @dmallett that he did on one of he's many cars. I cant even remember which one!

Basically my jacking sill were non existent. It really bugged me the way the was all bent in so i decided to cut up some box section at work and weld them on for strength. I sandblasted them as i wanted to paint them before i undeseal them.

I bent them as straight as i could then a i got a chap at work to weld them on the car.

All welded.

Ive given them a coat of silver Hammerite that i had for now but i'll give them another coat before i underseal the car. Should be stronger now. Thanks Charlie :smile:

Next up was to change the coolant which @AlexW gave me a hand with.

Old.

New.

Changed the wiper blades.

Old.

New.

I removed the taxdisc holder too. I was attending the EoE so i gave the car a quick wash. Checked the torque on the spacers bolts which were fine and gave the coilovers and brakes a clean. They both still look like new :smile:

When me and Alex had the bonnet open we noticed that the dephaser pulley sounded a little bit dodgy. I was planning on getting the belts done by him next year but i will bring this forward now. We are aiming to do it hopefully this month. I checked my paperwork on he car today and the cambelt was last done in 2010 and the aux belt in 2012. My gearbox crunches in 3rd on quick changes so while the belts are being done it will be perfect timing to get the gearbox rebuilt by agency. I didnt do the oil change so we will do it when the belts get done. Here's a list of parts that will be getting done:

Cambelt
Depahser
Aux belt
Cam seals
Crank bolt
Water pump
Coolant
Clutch
Gearbox oil
PAS oil
Rack bushes
Spark plugs

While the box and block are out im going to remove all covers etc and get them painted and paint the box and block when it comes back from the refurb. Alex thinks the timings out so it should be running like a dream in a few weeks time :smile:

 

[Jekyll]

I also have a clean spare throttle pedal and ph1 gear knob so I might get a new cat fitting kit and new clutch and brake pedals and fit these too.

I got my insurance renewal quote come through and with my missus on its £729, all mods declared. It's expensive due to her age and without her it's £379. With the big service due it makes sence to remove her off the insurance, plus I'm sure she won't drive it much in the winter anyway.

 

[AlexW]

Shed.

Cat fitting kit is probably a good shout, it'll be super easy while the engine is out too. Although 182 manifold is full of win lol.

Keep an eye on those jacking points to, as that section there isn't structural and will bend inwards if not careful. Hence why Dan put them to sqeeze the Sill lips.

 

[dmallett]

Alex has a point about the jacking points, tbh I dont like the way I done mine (they didnt sit that straight) Woud be better cutting a section of the folded sill out completely and replace it with a bit of box section where the exsisting was.

Good update as ever!

Also where'd you get those bulbs from? Might get a set for mine!

 

[Jekyll]

Shed.

Cat fitting kit is probably a good shout, it'll be super easy while the engine is out too. Although 182 manifold is full of win lol.

Keep an eye on those jacking points to, as that section there isn't structural and will bend inwards if not careful. Hence why Dan put them to sqeeze the Sill lips.

Do the manifolds actually make "that" much difference? The box section is more of a sill strengthener, rather than relying on it. It's more to stop the sill bending backwards again. Before we welded it, it did look like someone had jacked it there before as it was slightly dented both sides

Alex has a point about the jacking points, tbh I dont like the way I done mine (they didnt sit that straight) Woud be better cutting a section of the folded sill out completely and replace it with a bit of box section where the exsisting was.

Good update as ever!

Also where'd you get those bulbs from? Might get a set for mine!

Thought you admire me admiring your work

I got them from eBay for £18. I just typed in "Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited HB3" and went for the cheapest!

 

[DannyR]

I've always had torquier 172's that have the 182 manifold. If engine is out change it 100%

 

[AlexW]

I spoke to Woodford about it on Rob's, he said if not worried about fitting it, do it, and he knows a lot more than I do about tuning these Clios.

Would just need a link pipe, are you bothered about cat? Decat would be simple to make, no stupid olive join like 182's.

 

[Jekyll]

Thanks Danny. I shall see where the funds take me. I know my lambda sensor/spensors are out so maybe worth doing that too. I have twin cat on my ph1, do they have 1 or 2 lambdas?

 

[DannyR]

Complete pot luck! It may have one or two, being a later one and in iceberg silver I would guess it has two!

182 manifolds can be had for a good price these days.

 

[Jekyll]

I vaguely remember seeing two....

I shall have a look at the manifolds. Quite like the fact that it's legal with the cat on so it's all worth thinking about.

 

[DannyR]

And easy to change to a decat if need to be

 

[AlexW]

You'd need a 182 cat really, as the twin barrel would be a right dick to keep.

Plenty of options tbf.

 

[Jekyll]

@AlexW this is one off Ktec's site. Looks quite a simple design to make rather than buy? Where did you see the link pipe?

http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2333&appid=2

 

[DannyR]

Link pipe used to be on Ktec website to fit 182 cat to 172 exhaust

 

[Jekyll]

@AlexW It's all worth thinking about so I shall speak to you more when I see you next.

As said, it's more about getting it running sweet rather than power upgrade, but understand its the time to do it while the engine is out. It's all funds dependant.

 

[yeecup]

U not sticking some nice catcams in while the belts getting done? 421's you know it makes sense :tonguewink:

 

[AlexW]

Decat pipe would be easy to make, probably even easier due to your stealth system.

Cat would be a pain, but nothing to stop us making two link pipes, and put a sports cat in one.

Meh, discuss when I next see you.

 

[Jekyll]

U not sticking some nice catcams in while the belts getting done? 421's you know it makes sense :tonguewink:

As much as I'd love too it means that I'd have to buy the cams and then remap it which is another £900 aprrox and tbh Jamie, I don't want to spend that kind of money extra as we're still saving for a mortgage. My main concern is to get it running right with all new parts that need replacing done. Power is not a big issue for me, as long as it's running sweet and true.

If I wasn't saving then it would be a different story

 

[BREMBO]

Looks great!

 

[Jekyll]

Looks great!

Thank you

 

[Jekyll]

I took the Clio to @AlexW last night. I get 3 picture messages this morning.....


Destruction before production by Dr-Jekyll, on Flickr


Destruction before production by Dr-Jekyll, on Flickr


Destruction before production by Dr-Jekyll, on Flickr

 

[Jekyll]

New parts should be ordered early next week.

 

[AlexW]

f**k sakes mark I was going to do a proper update.

 

[Rubicon_]

Wow you don't hang around Alex haha!

 

[AlexW]

Proper update in my thread, just to spite Mark lol.

Don't take long when you know what you're doing. Plus everything went to plan!

 

[Jekyll]

Sorry Alex I was just so excited!

 

[Jekyll]

Shot out to see Alex and the Clio this morning. Took a few pics. Alex said that this could have been one of the easiest clio's to have worked on.

Clutch was the original one. Had done 83k so fair play there.

Decided that i'll be using some Nimbus heatshield as the existing bulkhead carpet is all manky but im not spending over £100 on a Renault one. Gave the bay a quick clean too, but Alex will give it another one before the engine goes back in.

And parts to be painted. Going all silver apart from engine mount plate, cam cover, ecu bracket and battery brace bar which will be black :smile:

 

[AlexW]

Such mess.
Should say I've obviously got to sort the nimbus yet.

 

[dmallett]

Didnt realise you had solid mounts!

Alex asked me to get pictures of the nimbus fitted for you, I havent done it yet lol

 

[Jekyll]

When you do, can you post some pics in here please?

Yeah man, i had a knocking noise so i ordered solid engine mounts. Been on for a while now. Got both engine ones and lower dogbone one too. I will be buying some powerflex steering rack bushes this week too.... well Alex will!

 

[Jekyll]

Update (shamelessly taken from @AlexW thread)

Gearbox has come back from Agency Transmissions. Got it painted in silver then dropped off to Alex's. Had all my bits painted. Got all the silver parts done with 2pac lacquer and I've painted the rocker cover and a few other small bits in satin black and halfords rattle lacquer with plenty of coats.














Filled the box with...



However the box leaks, from the end plate, Cheers Agency lol.

Quick list of what its had...

Powerflex Black Rack Bushes
Nimbus Heatshield
Cam cover re-sealed (Loctite 518)
Cam seals
Dephaser
Cambelt kit
Water pump
Aux belt kit
Inlet gaskets
oil filter
Thermostat
Changed alternator pulley to the later 182 metal type.
Valeo Clutch
Spark plugs
Changed gearstick for a refurbished item
Cat fitting kit

That's what he's done so far, still loads of bits to come.

 

[Jekyll]

Not sure why it's highlighted it all :S

 

[George182]

Great project - should be good as new!

 

[Jekyll]

Thanks George. With all the new bits changed on it I'm hoping so!

 

[dmallett]

Winner!

 

[AlexW]

Great project - should be good as new!

That was my thoughts and intentions really. Marks car, at the front end at least, its all new really. We did inner and outer Track rods, and lower balljoints a couple of months ago.

 

[Jekyll]

Plus new mounts. Ok there solid ones, but the others were knackered anyway. Obviously new brakes and new coilovers all round too so it should be all good

 

[dmallett]

Solid? Blimey Mark, you got some balls!

 

[Jekyll]

It's go hard or go home bro!

Actually I read that the standard ones are crap for longevity and these are recommended. Although there is more vibration than standard, I don't think I'd go back as standard feels too slack.

 

[yeecup]

What's happening with the leaking box? Actually that sounds really dodgy :smile: