Holey Renault 5 16V... Williams F7R & Alpha ITBs

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

maybe he wants rid of em


they not hard to map........jus use diff software to some


stick with the alpha mate imo..........yes the shell mite b an old skool 5.......but the engine isnt, it deserves better than carbs. alpha, map it n forget.......carbs...constant hassle imho

 

[Mark One]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

all those lovely cold starts in the morning. Cranking waiting for the noisy splutter then leave her to warm for 15 mins.
Similar to getting a steam train going i heard.....

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Youre getting confused with a fucked old Nova with a Pierburg carb. 40's are fine for cold starts if you have them jetted right, correct chokes and mix spot on!

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

until the weather changes......so it all needs resetting again

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Only minor though. ITB's win over carbs all day long but if mapping is such an issue, its a solution to the problem and is in-keeping with the car. So simple to make the engine run too.

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

mapping is NOT an issue tho.

get it mapped rite...get it mapped once...simples

car is old.....engine is injection as std.........why restrict the power output with carbs??

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

He's on a budget though. £350 for mapping you just said.

It wont make any less power than standard though will it.

 

[sideways danny]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

I wouldn't ditch the bodies personally, Webers aren't the best but carbs are hugely compromised on fueling. There will ALWAYS be somewhere that's flat in the rev range, you can't get away without compromise.

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

with what?? carbs. no it would be an improvement, barely. but the bodies would be so much more.


yeah 350 for mapping. budget for it...no point not doing in my experience, having fitted mine n not getting it mapped properly.....waste of time, altho the scoobs etc round here were running scared hehe.

tbh, if its worth doing might as well do it right. budget or no.

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Like I said dude, ITB's>Carbs BUT its on a budget and you will still gain power ove rthe standard inlet.

The sound mint, cheap to use, save messing with looms etc to install and it'll be a break from the norm.

DCOE F7R in a 5 shell? Has awesome written all over it.

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

bodies are already paid for....an extra 350 isnt a huge amount really.

spending countless hours under the bonnet readjusting the carbs to suit temps etc on the day rather than hooning round in it..........errrrrrr il take the latter option thanks. and wud probs save more than that on fuel........

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

You're exaggerating there, they dont need THAT much adjusting FFS. Remember these were standard fit on cars.

I know what you mean and yeah, use the ITB's if you can but if the mapping is a)expensive b) anyone can actually do it the carbs are much cheapness.

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

yes they were..and we always had probs with em.

and as already said....mapping i dont think is expensive tbh, the cost could be clawed back simply through fuel consumption within a couple months.

and the master mapper wayne can map em. no probs

buying a diff ecu is gunna b 300+ anyway, then u still gotta get it mapped

fair enuff, could sell the bodies n buy carbs.......but why? lol

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

I never had problems with starting or running with mine though!

Junk all the wiring and ECU, so lighter and simpler

Let Winston decide I reckon, LOL!

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

lighter yes.....but then a greater power/weight ratio.......

simpler??


fit, get em mapped......forget.......whats simpler than that? they will run on the map supplied with em.......jus not very good.....as mine was.....s**t map.but was still good enough to embarass supposed much faster machinery.

 

[Mark One]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Im sorry winston mate, your going to have to put 2 cylinders on carbs and 2 on ITBs. it's the only way to keep these lads happy

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

ITB's are better, so its all good but carbs are a cheaper solution and will still sound epic.

 

[2 live]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

i know u said it was on a budget. but were the bodies budgeted for in the first place??...


the extra to get them mapped would be nothing compared to the purchase of the kit.


2 on each cylinder lol....would b 1/2 quick then

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

I love a good debate

LOL @ at 2 cylinders on carbs and 2 on ITBs

The ITB's won't be going anywhere... the carbs were just a fall back idea if i can't get it running... I will just have to save for the mapping

After some thought im not going to rush the project and get the car fully resprayed pre build... so it might not make FCS!!

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Todays fiddlings....

Ghetto injector blanks.... Can anyone guess what they are? Not sure how im going to seal them in yet... any suggestions?

Gearbox painted with 2 coats of hammerite smooth... Needs a little touching up, but pretty much done. I need to get some locktight to fit the flywheel and then it can be matted up to the engine

Front end and engine stripped down ready to come out... got holes? Im just waiting on getting my jack back from a friend then i can drop it out the bottom on the subframe

 

[Djw Dave]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

^^^ Legend! ^^^

 

[superbenji88]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

40p's worth of blanks lol

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

20p

 

[Alex_X93]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Car looks mint on page 7. All it needs imho is a stanard ph2 r5 turbo grill/bumper matched to the orange paint. I really like the 5 orange with yellow vynal and black splits.

 

[superbenji88]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

ahhh they are 5ps! lol

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Cheers Alex.... The orange is staying for now but im going to paint the yellow bits in gun metal grey... I do need a Ph2 GT grill but finding one below £40 secondhand is a nightmare

Weather & my new daily Mk2 Golf GTD daily had led me to neglet the 5 but the sun was out this morning so i got stuck in....

1st job was to fit Lighterned and balanced flywheel, Clutch and Gearbox... I had tryed fitting the flywheel on saturday but one of the bolts sheered off (I won't be using the impact gun in future to torque them up lol).. I managed to get it out and all went together as planned today... sorry no pics

2nd Job was to bolt the gearbox to the engine and mount them both on the subframe with Ktec uprated GT Turbo mounts.. I also fitted both manifolds

3rd job was to fit the Renault cambelt kit

Now all thats left is to get a few mates around and lift the car onto the subframe... then i can really start getting stuck in.

Engine bay mid clean

Ive still got plenty of parts left to paint... steering rack, hubs, calipers, strut brace and coilovers..... So much left to do haha

 

[Djw Dave]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Getting there son.

 

[Gray]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Looking well Winstonia...

Any luck finding the software to map the new ECU?

 

[James5_GTT]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Look very nice matey, looking forward to seeing it up and running matey

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Cheers guys

No look with the software.... I think im going to save for another ECU and loom.. thats little more user friendly... but see how it runs with the map on the Alpha ECU lol

 

[Hutchie]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Cheers guys

No look with the software.... I think im going to save for another ECU and loom.. thats little more user friendly... but see how it runs with the map on the Alpha ECU lol

keep an eye on ebay, i bought a link ecu that i can map at home, downloadable software off their website and came with adaptor lead, WIN

change out of 250 quid :rasp:

 

[mini-valver]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Need a hand getting it in man? Im free sunday....

Cant wait to see this finished, gonna be a f**king weapon!

 

[Alex_X93]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Yea standard grills in gc are hard to come by especially with the tags holdin slats 2gether still, may have to get from a stealers im not sure how much they are . Iv asked my 5gt wh*"r£ friends for you no one has one sorry, they are the best gril by far tho. Also have you concidered (prob stealer part only again sorry) refitting the standard front and rear bumper strips in factory black, they are stick on in 1 piece for rear and 2 piece for front kit they refitt nice would look the dogs too against either the 13'' cup steels or 2pc splits in black? pls dont loose the yellow vynals it makes the car and imo so different in a good way!!

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

I should be ok dave.... got a big ug of mate that can lift and drop whilst i line it all up lol

I will just keep my eyes peeled for a grill... I mist one on ebay that went for £25. Ive got the bumper strips in my greenhouse i removed from some spare bumpers, unsure if i will fit them or not and the yellows deffo going, I want to stamp my own mark on the car... but how it looks is the last thing on my mind at the mo lol

 

[Antony]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

this car is gonna be nuts !!!

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Loads of room.... dare i say more than a mk1 Clio

Theres a few parts i need holding me up and i need to get my angle grinder back from jord as the bodies foul the slam panel.

 

[Hutchie]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

shweet

 

[Guppy]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Love the cheese grater affect

 

[Winston]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

Cheers folks...

I got abit more done this afternoon/evening... bay is slowly starting to fill up

 

[Mark One]

Re: Renault 5 F2000 Tarmac Rally / Sprint Car - Clio Williams conversion & overhaul

very nice, good progress