K20 powered 172

[NorthloopCup]

Scoff is quite simply, f**king awesome. He's a nice bloke as well!

 

[Chambers_RS]

Just fitted the spare ECU, UCH, barrel and decoder ring and now I have the exact same issue on my spare ECU set :rage::rage::rage::rage::rage::rage: It ran on this spare ECU set with the Standard map but doesn't now so I guess it was the UCH at fault at all

 

[Chambers_RS]

Had another look over the car today still f**k all I can find. Looked again for broken wires, double checked all fuses and swapped all relays over and still no progress.
I've got 12.46 volts everywhere, only place I can't get 12v is the fuel pump as that's not priming.

Anyway this is pissing me off so I decided to go and collect this instead.

Clio 200 engine :smile:

Started to get my self familiar with my spare 172 engine few months ago, so I've completely dissembled that now and put the 200 engine on the stand.

Has anyone got any ideas who has CliP near Warwickshire area?

 

[Chambers_RS]

Clio still hasn't fired into life. March was the last time it started and ran.
Starting to get withdrawal symptoms from track days. Lol
Anyway I've swapped the looms over and swapped relays for new items and still have no joy. So I'm looking at all other options now as I've had enough of it lol.

The car looks a right state currently.

I tried to close the bonnet too as it's been propped open since march and now have an issue with one of the aero catches

:confounded:

 

[haimsey]

Looks like there might be a slight warp in the bonnet maybe, try leaving it closed for a bit might drop back. If not, bit of brute force and ignorance will sort it :wink:

 

[AdamCup]

Isn't the pump not priming a immobiliser thing ?

As a test, why not run a 12v direct supply to the fuel pump ?

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[Chambers_RS]

Isn't the pump not priming a immobiliser thing ?

As a test, why not run a 12v direct supply to the fuel pump ?

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Yeah defo is, I've got a electric probe that I've used to supply 12volts to the pump and the pump works no problem but still won't start and will only crank 3 times still. Guess there's no spark either.

Looks like there might be a slight warp in the bonnet maybe, try leaving it closed for a bit might drop back. If not, bit of brute force and ignorance will sort it :wink:

Yeah I'm sure brute force will help :laughing:

 

[haimsey]

Yeah I'm sure brute force will help :laughing:

Not too much though, it's French, something else will break 🙈

 

[Rubicon_]

Mines still does this now and again. Usually when i disconnect the ecu. The only way i sort it is by plugging in the clip and running a test, not sure what it does must reset something.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Made a start on the wiring today :astonished:

Stripped all the s**t off that’s meant to protect the looms, both engine looms, dash interior loom and rear half.

Engine loom just slightly tape together.

I need to test fit the loom and make sure all the plugs are in the correct place and fit around the RS2 inlet manifold.

I need to make a new starter power cable.

Engine loom with the bulkhead fitting on, its had what I think is the headlight wiring cut 🙈
I hope it’s the headlight wiring anyway lol.

Cut wires

Can someone confirm this is the heater blower motor plug?

Rear half

Again need to refit make sure everything will reach and work out what’s not needed.

Scrap pile so far which I did from memory as I wasn’t with the car 🙈

Then it’s case of starting the dash loom

Don’t think I’ve mentioned this but I’ve got one of these :grinning:

Which when is plugged into the wiring that’s currently in the car, it starts

 

[gez 172]

Awesome project!

 

[dann2707]

How hard was it to sort out all the loom and stuff mate? Something I really want to do at some point.

 

[Da Jenser]

very nice built

 

[Chambers_RS]

How hard was it to sort out all the loom and stuff mate? Something I really want to do at some point.

Massively time consuming 😂
Just taking all the tape and plastics off the looms is a job and half in its self. I was doing it away from the car aswell so trying to remember what plug is for what added a bit of time (especially when I haven’t looked at the car for 3 months or so)
Defo worth doing if it works, even if you don’t remove any of the unused stuff just having it tidy when you’ve got mods/conversions helps the ocd 😂

I’m still tempted by a 230 conversion 🙈

 

[Chambers_RS]

Pulled the engine loom out the car last night.
Only broke the. Starter motor in progress tho 🙈

Pulling the loom

Loom out. I like how the bay looks with no loom.

Starter terminal snapped off. Plastic went brittle.

Tonight’s job is getting the new loom back in place ready to be rewrapped and trimmed.

Trying to give the cup a good push to get it ready for mapping ASAP.

 

[R29TJR]

Just read the whole thread and what an amazing build.

Can I ask how you have mounted the fan to the rad?

 

[Chambers_RS]

Just read the whole thread and what an amazing build.

Can I ask how you have mounted the fan to the rad?

Thanks bud.

The fan is a cheap eBay jobbie that comes with a spring mounting kit that pulls through the rad.
Crap way of doing things really. The fan is on my list to upgrade but want it running first.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Power cable has arrived so I can crack on with the starter cables.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Slowly getting there.

 

[scotiamr2t]

The wiring was the only job i hated when rebuilding mine! Worth it though to neaten it all up

 

[Optimista]

Read the thread from begining to end.. Holly s**t. The amount of detail and hard work that you put in this build is beyond incredible. Hats off.
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[Chambers_RS]

Read the thread from begining to end.. Holly s**t. The amount of detail and hard work that you put in this build is beyond incredible. Hats off.
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Thanks, more to come and hopefully I’ll get to abuse it enough this year.

The wiring was the only job i hated when rebuilding mine! Worth it though to neaten it all up

Defo worth it, this is the second time I’ve had to do tho and is becoming boring 😂

 

[Chambers_RS]

More wiring last night.

I soldered on the new type cranks sensor plug and fitted the new crank sensor, plug the rest of the loom in and tidied more of it up.

I need to get the starter power cable etc made and order some heat proofing sleeves to progress any more really.

Only pictures I took last night.

 

[Da Jenser]

possible > shorter also with ragnotti

pic: holder R19 1.8 F3N // R5 GTE
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4960/g5l8zhnx_jpg.htm

 

[rttam]

great project thread mate car looks amazing!!
how do you find the gaz coilovers on track? heard mixed reviews and thinking of buying some

 

[Chambers_RS]

great project thread mate car looks amazing!!
how do you find the gaz coilovers on track? heard mixed reviews and thinking of buying some

Cheers mate.
Yeah there fine tbf, great to start off with the price etc.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Nearly finished off the wiring loom

Deadline is looming now it booked in for mapping 🙈

To do list is mighty large still tho :confounded:
Finish wiring loom
Fit switch panel inside car
Wire in kill switch
Wire in fan and switch
Fit and wire in Spa oil pressure and temp gauge
Fix speedo in place
Heat shielding for manifold
Headlight blanks paint and fitting
Sorting aero catches out
order and Fit New wheel studs (ordered from PMS)
Fit wheel spacers and wheels
Fit wiper linkage and scuttle panel
Fit air filter etc
Order and fit towing eye (ordered from PMS)
Order towing socket adapter for Trailer
Change oil and filter
Change spark plugs
Get fuel
Get fuel in ML
Give battery trickle charge
Clean

 

[JP83]

Epic. Loom is looking tidy!

 

[haimsey]

Looking good! (Bar those two ginger bolts holding the fuel rail on :wink

 

[Chambers_RS]

Thanks :smile:

The rusty bolts do need changing your right 😂

 

[Aydon182]

Thing you've gotta look at is the over all package. The timing changes the whole characteristics of the power delivery. Even Chris at efi was surprised and hadn't done it before with my mods.
I've never said who or what timing I've had as mark ask me not to mention it. I trusted mark with the timing and he trusted me not to say which Is how it should be.

Mark is the only one I'd show the graph too as he did the hard work, I did that out of respect for marks talent. Chris at EFi was happy with it, I was happy how it drove and mark was happy with the graph. That's all that counts surely?

If I want more I know where I can go, which is cams and higher rev limiter, (Chris at efi 'a suggestions) as the timing is making awesome low down grunt and holding the it through out the Rev range.

If anyone needs a figure 'pub speaking' it's not far off 200.

Very nice project thread, makes me want a big n/a build clio now :smile:
Id be interested in seeing a dyno 😌 not for pub or peak figures, but to see how she performs throughout the rev range with these modifications, its nice to educate the community on how things perform :up:

 

[Chambers_RS]

Thanks. I will post this graph as the secrets out the bag now really lol.
I’m not interested in figures just how it drives and knowing it’s mapped well by a decent guy.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Slowly getting there.

And as time is running out and I know the car runs and starts I’ve decided to leave the interior loom as it is, well just tidy it up. Once it’s mapped I’ll strip my spare loom down properly. Need to look at getting my new dash fitted too.

 

[Chambers_RS]

To do list update

Finish wiring loom
Fit switch panel inside car
Wire in kill switch
Wire in fan and switch
Fit and wire in Spa oil pressure and temp gauge
Fix speedo in place DONE
Heat shielding for manifold DONE
Headlight blanks paint and fitting PAINTED
Sorting aero catches out
order and Fit New wheel studs (ARRIVED from PMS)
Fit wheel spacers and wheels
Fit wiper linkage and scuttle panel DONE
Fit air filter etc
Order and fit towing eye (ARRIVED from PMS)
Order towing socket adapter for Trailer DONE
Change oil and filter DONE
Change spark plugs DONE
Get fuel
Get fuel in ML
Give battery trickle charge
Clean

STILL LOTS TO DO

 

[haimsey]

If possible can you get a decent amount of info for wiring in the SPA gauge. I’ve put the gauge on my wish list so I can get rid of my simple pressure gauge.

 

[Chambers_RS]

If possible can you get a decent amount of info for wiring in the SPA gauge. I’ve put the gauge on my wish list so I can get rid of my simple pressure gauge.

Yeah can try mate. It’s literally 2 wires into the engine bay for both sensors, pressure and temp and then a power and earth to the gauge. There is lots wires but already wired into plugs.

 

[Chambers_RS]

To do list update

Finish wiring loom DONE
Fit switch panel inside car
Wire in kill switch HALF DONE
Wire in fan and switch HALF DONE
Fit and wire in Spa oil pressure and temp gauge HALF DONE
Fix speedo in place DONE
Heat shielding for manifold DONE
Headlight blanks paint and fitting DONE
Sorting aero catches out
order and Fit New wheel studs (ARRIVED from PMS) DONE
Fit wheel spacers and wheels
Fit wiper linkage and scuttle panel DONE
Fit air filter etc
Order and fit towing eye (ARRIVED from PMS)
Order towing socket adapter for Trailer DONE
Change oil and filter DONE
Change spark plugs DONE
Get fuel
Give battery trickle charge
Clean

CARVING THROUGH IT NOW LOL

 

[haimsey]

Yeah can try mate. It’s literally 2 wires into the engine bay for both sensors, pressure and temp and then a power and earth to the gauge. There is lots wires but already wired into plugs.

That’d be great, I think I might just be over thinking the wiring lol. Could probably take my power source from somewhere a bit better too

 

[Chambers_RS]

Only Vpower to get and load on Trailer for tomorrow

Can’t wait but have everything crossed it goes well.

 

[Christopher.]

Nice work mate.

Looking forward to the next update