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Just different exhaust I believe, I couldn't resist firing it up with no backbox on and you can hear the turbo a lot more without it. Guess its just the sound the box gives, i'm not that great a fan of the jet sound anyway tbh much prefer this personally.
Well haven't updated this in a while but its been busy consuming vast ammounts of my time and money ever since, just got to the age where a good few parts needed replacing so just had to get to it! (including a not so expected major one i'm tackling next week which i'll get to 
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Well it isn't 5 years old until the end of the year but seeing as I never leave them to get to that anyway it was time for that fun fun job of a cambelt, although tbh the megane is far far better to do it to than the clio.
So amased the necessaries.
And the not so fun part that came with it.
And got cracking.
The pile of plastic increased somewhat lol.
And got the front bumper off eventually.
Now THATS where I put it!
Drained ze oil.
Pictures get a bit spartan here (or nonexistant!) as I got into the job and never bothered to stop to take pictures but basically new cambelt/tensioner/idler, new aux belt/tensioner, water pump, coolant flush, oil filter and oil when on.
No real problems along the way other than the cam pulley nuts being absolute mega mega tight but got them off eventually after some gentle persuasion.
).Well it isn't 5 years old until the end of the year but seeing as I never leave them to get to that anyway it was time for that fun fun job of a cambelt
, although tbh the megane is far far better to do it to than the clio.So amased the necessaries.
And the not so fun part that came with it
.
And got cracking.
The pile of plastic increased somewhat lol.
And got the front bumper off eventually.
Now THATS where I put it!
Drained ze oil.
Pictures get a bit spartan here (or nonexistant!) as I got into the job and never bothered to stop to take pictures but basically new cambelt/tensioner/idler, new aux belt/tensioner, water pump, coolant flush, oil filter and oil when on.
No real problems along the way other than the cam pulley nuts being absolute mega mega tight but got them off eventually after some gentle persuasion
.Then turned my focus to the rear brakes which were far than brilliant condition really so chucked a new set of rear discs and pads on.
The obligitory comparison shot.
Plently left in those youf!
New discs on, carrier on and new pads fitted.
Before any eagle eyed person says yes I know I put the pads in the wrong way round for these pics!. Wasn't immediately apparent imo in my defence, so so obvious when I was told though.
Caliper wound back.
Homebrew windback "tool".
All done. (well until I took it all back off again to swap the pads around)
The obligitory comparison shot.
Plently left in those youf!
New discs on, carrier on and new pads fitted.
Before any eagle eyed person says yes I know I put the pads in the wrong way round for these pics!
. Wasn't immediately apparent imo in my defence, so so obvious when I was told though.Caliper wound back.
Homebrew windback "tool".
All done. (well until I took it all back off again to swap the pads around
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Then a few months when by before it decided it felt the need to invade my wallet again :dapprove:. Front brakes this time, and I though the rears weren't cheap .
Originals looking less than healthy.
Especially the outside pad for some reason.
Now after seeing this was expecting to find some siezed piston-itus but gladly all 4 both sides could be pushed back with my fingers so all good there for once!
The lower pin was siezed in hence it being cut and the last bit of it just hanging out, same with the upper pin on the other side.
Got cracking and stripped both sides down.
Then time for shiney bits!
Again my lacklustre photo skills means I haven't got any pics of the new stuff fitted but you can get the idea.
The for the final thing, a stage 2'd megane has a bit of a habit for standard injectors so fitted a new set with a new fuel rail just to tidy it up a bit as I wasn't happy with the old one. This is the 4th! set its had. Really hope the issues with the uprateds get sorted soon :dapprove:.
And built the new rail/injectors up.
Then stripped down and removed the old one and refitted the new one.
And patting myself on the back for a job well done left it at that and set out the next morning for the meganesport RR meet thinking at least all the major expenses are out the way! Oh how wrong I was.
.Originals looking less than healthy.
Especially the outside pad for some reason.
Now after seeing this was expecting to find some siezed piston-itus but gladly all 4 both sides could be pushed back with my fingers so all good there for once!
The lower pin was siezed in hence it being cut and the last bit of it just hanging out, same with the upper pin on the other side.
Got cracking and stripped both sides down.
Then time for shiney bits!
Again my lacklustre photo skills means I haven't got any pics of the new stuff fitted but you can get the idea.
The for the final thing, a stage 2'd megane has a bit of a habit for standard injectors so fitted a new set with a new fuel rail just to tidy it up a bit as I wasn't happy with the old one. This is the 4th! set its had. Really hope the issues with the uprateds get sorted soon :dapprove:.
And built the new rail/injectors up.
Then stripped down and removed the old one and refitted the new one.
And patting myself on the back for a job well done left it at that and set out the next morning for the meganesport RR meet thinking at least all the major expenses are out the way! Oh how wrong I was.
Then all was going so well until on the way home from said meet the clutch decided its had enough at life and started to slip , 52k on it and its been mapped since 28k so its possibly just worn out and hopefully not just not up to the job of handling the extra torque from the map as there aren't any uprated direct fit replacements avaliable either!
The biggest stinger is that due to the megane using a dual mass flywheel setup that'll probably need replacing too at a cost of £400 :dead:, add up the clutch and other bits and pieces that might as well be changed and its touching £800 parts alone!
Oh well gonna get the box pulled out monday/tuesday hopefully and will assess what needs changing then :dapprove:.
In a lot of ways despite the cost i'd rather it'd be the flywheel thats caused this as its been slightly ticking for a while now and at least i'd know the clutch can handle the 310ft.lb as i've got to refit a standard one unfortunately.
Oh well won't know until the box is off so roll on tuesday! Will update when I know.
, 52k on it and its been mapped since 28k so its possibly just worn out and hopefully not just not up to the job of handling the extra torque from the map as there aren't any uprated direct fit replacements avaliable either!The biggest stinger is that due to the megane using a dual mass flywheel setup that'll probably need replacing too at a cost of £400 :dead:, add up the clutch and other bits and pieces that might as well be changed and its touching £800 parts alone!
Oh well gonna get the box pulled out monday/tuesday hopefully and will assess what needs changing then :dapprove:.
In a lot of ways despite the cost i'd rather it'd be the flywheel thats caused this as its been slightly ticking for a while now and at least i'd know the clutch can handle the 310ft.lb as i've got to refit a standard one unfortunately.
Oh well won't know until the box is off so roll on tuesday! Will update when I know
.Some money been spent on this page
Where/when are you able to hear the flywheel 'ticking', just when under the car or is it quite obvious? What gives away that the flywheel is worn other than the ticking, does it feel different to drive/pull away?
I saw the wanted post for an R26 box, seems a good move whilst yours is off anyway.
Cracking work as ever
Where/when are you able to hear the flywheel 'ticking', just when under the car or is it quite obvious? What gives away that the flywheel is worn other than the ticking, does it feel different to drive/pull away?
I saw the wanted post for an R26 box, seems a good move whilst yours is off anyway.
Cracking work as ever
You can hear it rythmically ticking when your under the car and its running, sound comes from the bellhousing mines been doing it since last autumn time when I first noticed it. As the clutch itself has no damping in it like a normal one as it all should be done by a healthy flywheel it'll give you quite a harsh engagement can be hard to pull away 100% smoothly also when lifting off the throttle in gear it'll surge rather than just the initial bit you get normally (hard to explain that one lol). Sure mines worse since its started slipping too, seems a lot harder to get a smooth takeup and its been surging a bit for a while. My mums cooking 2.0l megane uses the same setup so i've got a direct comparison there and hers is far better.Some money been spent on this page
Where/when are you able to hear the flywheel 'ticking', just when under the car or is it quite obvious? What gives away that the flywheel is worn other than the ticking, does it feel different to drive/pull away?
I saw the wanted post for an R26 box, seems a good move whilst yours is off anyway.
Cracking work as ever
Going to change the lot I think anywho, clutch, flywheel, master cylinder and slave cylinder whilst its all off seems a false economy not too. Not doing too well on the R26 box frontier no-one seems to have one for sale
. Have found helix list a clutch for it on their site though just a matter of seeing if I can find someone who can supply one now.Nah easy peasy 20 mins tops really if you haven't done one before. Its the blanking plate to take the original recirc valve out thats the pig its in a right spot, that'll take a lot longer the first time!
Well decided to take a day off work today and bite the bullet :dapprove:. You'll have to forgive me for the lack of photos but was all on my own so was more concentrated on the job in hand!
A far far too familiar sight these days.
Stripped the ecu/battery tray/airbox out and some of the loom supports etc.
Stripped the nearside hub down and pulled the driveshaft, was a bit weary of this bit as the hub design isn't conventional so was a vovage of discovery but it all came apart easily enough and not a bad design really. For the french anyway.
Only trouble being not being able to undo the track rod balljoint nut wouldn't bind on the taper and whatever they were holdable with on the top they weren't anymore so it had to meet mr. hacksaw :evil:.
So can add that to the list of parts!
So moved onto the other side and rinsed and repeat.
Whipped the bumper off and tied the rad/condensor/intercooler to the upper crossmember.
Then dropped the lower rad crossmember followed by the subframe, much more room to work with now.
Shafts had rusted on the splines a "little". Did get to use a hammer so deffo a proper job.
Subframe at the top and rad support on the bottom.
The lawns sprouting parts.
Then got to it and pulled the box to see the damage.
Yep definetly something missing.
Ah ha this maybe?
Hmm could fit a decat in here nicely though whilst its all off???? :evil:
Then took the clutch and flywheel off.
Can see where the crank seals been weeping, going to change that whilst its all off I think.
These solid mounts aren't all they've cracked up to be though.
Well the result of it all is the actual clutch looks fine about half worn on the friction plate looking at it and the auto adjuster on the pressure plate seems to agree with me as its about half way through its travel of adjustment. Can see witness marks on the fly and pressure plate where its deffo been slipping though.
The flywheel on the other hand its far beyond its best, no damping at all in the anti-clockwise (engine direction) and its got a few mm side to side play in it too, which i'm guessing things that spin at engine speed should have lol!
So looking at the best part of £800 parts bill woooo hooo. Oh well best get ordering then I guess. Might have to slip a cheeky decat in there too maybe, cloud silver lining at all that .
A far far too familiar sight these days.
Stripped the ecu/battery tray/airbox out and some of the loom supports etc.
Stripped the nearside hub down and pulled the driveshaft, was a bit weary of this bit as the hub design isn't conventional so was a vovage of discovery but it all came apart easily enough and not a bad design really. For the french anyway
.
Only trouble being not being able to undo the track rod balljoint nut wouldn't bind on the taper and whatever they were holdable with on the top they weren't anymore so it had to meet mr. hacksaw :evil:.
So can add that to the list of parts!
So moved onto the other side and rinsed and repeat.
Whipped the bumper off and tied the rad/condensor/intercooler to the upper crossmember.
Then dropped the lower rad crossmember followed by the subframe, much more room to work with now
.
Shafts had rusted on the splines a "little". Did get to use a hammer so deffo a proper job.
Subframe at the top and rad support on the bottom.
The lawns sprouting parts.
Then got to it and pulled the box to see the damage.
Yep definetly something missing.
Ah ha this maybe?
Hmm could fit a decat in here nicely though whilst its all off???? :evil:
Then took the clutch and flywheel off.
Can see where the crank seals been weeping, going to change that whilst its all off I think.
These solid mounts aren't all they've cracked up to be though
.
Well the result of it all is the actual clutch looks fine about half worn on the friction plate looking at it and the auto adjuster on the pressure plate seems to agree with me as its about half way through its travel of adjustment. Can see witness marks on the fly and pressure plate where its deffo been slipping though.
The flywheel on the other hand its far beyond its best, no damping at all in the anti-clockwise (engine direction) and its got a few mm side to side play in it too, which i'm guessing things that spin at engine speed should have lol!
So looking at the best part of £800 parts bill woooo hooo
. Oh well best get ordering then I guess. Might have to slip a cheeky decat in there too maybe, cloud silver lining at all that .Its actually barring the hydraulic clutch pretty much exactly the same tbh, probs a bit easier than when I pulled the box out of my 1.6 (twice! but thats another story). More room once the subframes out the way anyway from what I remember.
This is unfortunately why
Then all was going so well until on the way home from said meet the clutch decided its had enough at life and started to slip
The biggest stinger is that due to the megane using a dual mass flywheel setup that'll probably need replacing too at a cost of £400 :dead:, add up the clutch and other bits and pieces that might as well be changed and its touching £800 parts alone!
Oh well gonna get the box pulled out monday/tuesday hopefully and will assess what needs changing then :dapprove:.
In a lot of ways despite the cost i'd rather it'd be the flywheel thats caused this as its been slightly ticking for a while now and at least i'd know the clutch can handle the 310ft.lb as i've got to refit a standard one unfortunately.
Oh well won't know until the box is off so roll on tuesday! Will update when I know
After removing it all the clutch looks ok tbf but the dual mass flywheel is fuuuuuuuuuuuucked so hoping thats the cause of the slipping and a new standard clutch will be up to the job as no one makes an uprated yet.
The plastic rivets? Turn them 90degrees until the heads lift then use sometime to lift them all the way out them grab the stem of the with some thin nosed pliers and yank them out. Can be quite stubborn but will come out ok 90% of the time, sometimes they'll break no matter what so I just get some replacements from renault they're not a great deal.
Will do, currently rocking it in a 1.25 festa. At least i'll appreciate the power when mines back on the road again! Fingers crossed for the weekend.Gave this a read last night and it made me very jealous that I can't have my car off the road!
I love doing maintenence, even just little things.
Car is sweet my friend keep up the updates and the hard/good work!
Titanium 182
I think I need to pay you to make me some wiring looms for the ph2 lights :}
Its actually barring the hydraulic clutch pretty much exactly the same tbh, probs a bit easier than when I pulled the box out of my 1.6 (twice! but thats another story). More room once the subframes out the way anyway from what I remember.
This is unfortunately why
After removing it all the clutch looks ok tbf but the dual mass flywheel is fuuuuuuuuuuuucked so hoping thats the cause of the slipping and a new standard clutch will be up to the job as no one makes an uprated yet.
Ah thats a bit poo mate, well im not suprised the flywheels fooked, VW's do it all the time lol, we had one explode the springs clean out of it, iv got a pic somewhere il dig it out
Yeh everything i've read about dmfs doesn't proove them to be the most pro-longitivity thing in the world. Mine doesn't really damp in either direction you can easily move it by hand and its got a few mm side to side play in it too. Thats one a one stop trip to the wheely bin I think!
Yeh i've heard the horror stories when they let go be good to see, i'm surprised mine wasn't causing more problems than it did tbh considering the condition. The play in it being the most worrying considering it does engine rpm.
Yeh i've heard the horror stories when they let go be good to see, i'm surprised mine wasn't causing more problems than it did tbh considering the condition. The play in it being the most worrying considering it does engine rpm.
Got all the bits today so got cracking with putting it back together this afternoon.
Firstly deagreased the block and sump and fitted a new crank oil seal.
New shiney non floaty flywheel.
vs :dead:
Erm which ones is the new one again
So got the flywheel degreased, fitted and bolts torqued up.
Built a homebrew tool to reset the self adjuster in the new clutch pressure plate.
Got that cleaned up and ready to fit.
Fitted the friction plate.
And fitted the pressure plate on top of it and torqued the bolts up with a bit of threadlock on them seeing as they're the originals (clutch is new though).
Degreased the box bellhousing where the oil from the weeping crank seal had covered it, also removed the old slave cylinder/release bearing.
New/old comparison.
And fitted it.
Fitted the new diff/driveshaft seals.
And fitted the box.
Changed the clutch master cylinder and bled the clutch too, oh my god what a stupid design that is! Bleed nipple before the slave piston wtf???? Managed it in the end but I don't recommend anyone does it for fun as its a right piss about!
And thats a wrap for today, hopefully get everything else on tomorrow but i'm working in the morning so only got the afternoon so see how far I get.
The not so good bit though.
Firstly deagreased the block and sump and fitted a new crank oil seal.
New shiney non floaty flywheel
.
vs :dead:
Erm which ones is the new one again
So got the flywheel degreased, fitted and bolts torqued up.
Built a homebrew tool to reset the self adjuster in the new clutch pressure plate.
Got that cleaned up and ready to fit.
Fitted the friction plate.
And fitted the pressure plate on top of it and torqued the bolts up with a bit of threadlock on them seeing as they're the originals (clutch is new though).
Degreased the box bellhousing where the oil from the weeping crank seal had covered it, also removed the old slave cylinder/release bearing.
New/old comparison.
And fitted it.
Fitted the new diff/driveshaft seals.
And fitted the box.
Changed the clutch master cylinder and bled the clutch too, oh my god what a stupid design that is! Bleed nipple before the slave piston wtf???? Managed it in the end but I don't recommend anyone does it for fun as its a right piss about!
And thats a wrap for today, hopefully get everything else on tomorrow but i'm working in the morning so only got the afternoon so see how far I get.
The not so good bit though
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lemonnobby
ClioSport Club Member
there easy to bleed mate. your flywheel looks nice
Anywho severe lack of pictures on this frontier as I just wanted it back together but got it all sorted over yesterday afternoon and this morning. Much much better, no noise from the flywheel and no clutch slip either woo hoo . Expensive but worth it in the end, after running round in a 1.25 festa all week felt like a rocket ship too!
. Expensive but worth it in the end, after running round in a 1.25 festa all week felt like a rocket ship too!Oh the old flywheel was beyond fucked tbh comparing it to the new one, no damping in either direction and a good chuck of side to side play in it too certainly not good thats for sure. Bleeding wise now i've got it cracked would be a piece of piss to do, just had to work the system out first. The repair manual isn't to be followed to the letter thats for sure.
