My Arctic Monkey's - 172 Cup & 182 Tubby

[Russ]

Soooo, I've jumped into the Clio scene with both feet and I'm hooked already. Such an awesome pocket rocket of a car.

Will keep it brief for now (Couple of pics and some info) and will update as and when I get jobs sorted. Two cars one thread :up:

172 Cup - 53 plate 88k - having belts, dephaser pulley, alternator and full service and MOT - she is a peach and will be the street toy.
182 T - 54 plate 86k - currently being stripped and prepped for some big bhp. She is going to be a track monster, hope to have it completed for the start of the good weather 2018, can't wait!!

 

[Louis]

Who the f**k Are Arctic Monkeys?

 

[Clio_fool]

Who the f**k Are Arctic Monkeys?

They are his clios obviously. Although the 182 is arctic, the cup is mondial. Very similar but don't go swapping panels around @Pinchy Larou!

 

[Russ]

They are his clios obviously. Although the 182 is arctic, the cup is mondial. Very similar but don't go swapping panels around @Pinchy Larou!

Oooops FNG mistake!! Gona stick with the title though :up:

Thanks for the correction @OssPoop

 

[Louis]

They are his clios obviously. Although the 182 is arctic, the cup is mondial. Very similar but don't go swapping panels around @Pinchy Larou!

That's where you're wrong

 

[Clio_fool]

That's where you're wrong

Where?

 

[Louis]

Where?

 

[Russ]

Love the Monkey's but they are not mine!

 

[masekwm]

Interesting to see where you go with the 182, imo it doesn't need any more BHP but does need handling (and reliability) mods to make it a good track day car

 

[Russ]

No fun in forging it and not push the bounderies! I have the Cup for sensible road fun. The plan is for the Turbo car to be blating around tracks so will be pulled apart and built accordingly. I'm game for chasing big bhp with it :up:

 

[Clio_fool]

Bit of a shame to strip such a nice example for a track car, but as we all know once you bolt a turbo on nobody wants to pay the cars true value. Better than breaking it up and @Mr Plums has a new love already!
It'll be a good UK version of The Missile. Have a search for that thread @Pinchy Larou it's a good one.

 

[masekwm]

Chasing bhp is really pointless in a Clio, you'll end up like this guy who can't use the power.

Having been in Clio's of various power, 230/280/300 and 400 on track, anything above what this car currently has can't be used properly.

Rather than chasing power, fit a diff, a set of ASTs and strip it and have a cracking car.

 

[Russ]

Just out of interest are these standard injectors?? Wondered as they state 182 in the part number

 

[Russ]

Sorry for the questions but wondered if this is reworked??

 

[masekwm]

That's a standard head and 225 injectors

 

[Russ]

That's a standard head and 225 injectors

Thank you :up:

 

[Russ]

It'll be a good UK version of The Missile. Have a search for that thread

This!! :hearteyes:

 

[dylan172]

This!! :hearteyes:

Keep the body panels standard tho! Sleeperish is the absolute best (excluding cannards or possibly wing)

Looking great btw!

 

[Russ]

Keep the body panels standard tho! Sleeperish is the absolute best (excluding cannards or possibly wing)

Looking great btw!

The plan was/is sleeper but "The missile" looks the nuts....!!

Decisions decisions.......:yum:

Thanks mate, cant wait to see how she turns out

 

[Cub.]

Chasing bhp is really pointless in a Clio, you'll end up like this guy who can't use the power.

Having been in Clio's of various power, 230/280/300 and 400 on track, anything above what this car currently has can't be used properly.

Rather than chasing power, fit a diff, a set of ASTs and strip it and have a cracking car.

Whilst I agree that fitting a diff, ASTs and stripping it should be the way forward first.

It’s utter b****cks to say you can’t use any more power than they have already. Mine puts its 250bhp down whenever I want, no dramas or problems whatsoever.

Probably helped by the diff, ASTs, handling mods and various other things it has first 😂

OP - welcome along. Both look lovely. I’d mod the second one bit by bit, with track work in between “mod bursts”. Whilst getting more power is fun, chasing big power will mean you will reach a point of “diminishing returns”.

 

[dann2707]

So many people telling the op what to do with his car haha.

Awesome cars mate.

 

[dylan172]

The plan was/is sleeper but "The missile" looks the nuts....!!

Decisions decisions.......:yum:

Thanks mate, cant wait to see how she turns out

The right decision would be sleeper imho... I do like subtle changes tho!

 

[Russ]

Thanks for the welcome @Cub. :up:

I hear you, the 182 has a build plan of 4-5months, want to build in reliability so will not be cutting any corners and have severe OCD's so it'll be done right or not at all.

I absolutely love the rawness of the Cup, takes me right back! These cars are the last of the great hot hatches. Can not think of any thing else that comes close (IMO)

Not after a return on the turbo car. Thats what I bought the Cup for :wink:

 

[Cub.]

So many people telling the op what to do with his car haha.

Awesome cars mate.

It’s called being helpful. That tends to be what clubs and forums are about....

 

[Russ]

So many people telling the op what to do with his car haha.

Awesome cars mate.

Cheers buddy :up:

 

[masekwm]

It's utter b****cks to say you can’t use any more power than they have already. Mine puts its 250bhp down whenever I want, no dramas or problems whatsoever.

This one was 285bhp, which is plenty and usable. Once you go over 300bhp, you end up not being able to use the full power of the car unless you stick to somewhere like Bedford and it's never ending straight. Just look at Dan Potters video's as an example.

 

[Russ]

unless you stick to somewhere like Bedford and it's never ending straight.

Haha

She did go round corners on full boost, just had to Hold on tight!! penmouth:

 

[JB21]

Its not so much the hp increase that can be the issue its the torque, more so how its delivered. But i do agree more is not always better especially in a front crawler on track.

 

[Russ]

Thinking 02J conversion, have you any experiance/knowledge @JB21
Thanks in advance,

Russ

 

[JB21]

Thinking 02J conversion, have you any experiance/knowledge @JB21
Thanks in advance,

Russ

Haha not much knowledge as i have no idea what an 02J conversion is. Maybe a vag lump? If turbo charged then the same principle applies.

Do you have much track experience?

 

[masekwm]

The O2M is the more popular choice but it's the cost that puts a lot off, Gary Spooner - The Clio Man on Facebook has a conversion for sale today.

However, by the time you've done that and spent a lot, you could've just swapped out the Clio engine to a Megane engine & R26 box.

 

[Russ]

Haha not much knowledge as i have no idea what an 02J conversion is. Maybe a vag lump? If turbo charged then the same principle applies.

Do you have much track experience?

Its a Golf 5speed box mated to the F4R a friend mentioned has been done, sounded like a good idea so will do some more digging :up:

 

[Russ]

The O2M is the more popular choice but it's the cost that puts a lot off, Gary Spooner - The Clio Man on Facebook has a conversion for sale today.

However, by the time you've done that and spent a lot, you could've just swapped out the Clio engine to a Megane engine & R26 box.

I'm not on bookface.

Naaaaar happy to play with what I've got. Any one can go buy a faster engine/car, I'd rather build one.

 

[Cub.]

This one was 285bhp, which is plenty and usable. Once you go over 300bhp, you end up not being able to use the full power of the car unless you stick to somewhere like Bedford and it's never ending straight. Just look at Dan Potters video's as an example.

Ah. Didn’t realise it was already running what i’d call “big power”. Sorry!

I agree. If it is running 285, little point chasing more.

 

[MarkCup]

Oooh. 172 Cup you say. Nice. How standard is it? A clean tidy sorted standard one has me reaching for the kleenex tbqfh.

 

[Mr Plums]

I cant wait to see what you do to my old best friend mate.

Good luck on the build.

 

[Russ]

Oooh. 172 Cup you say. Nice. How standard is it? A clean tidy sorted standard one has me reaching for the kleenex tbqfh.

Very standard, just needs a little tlc! Not going to be messing with too much where as the 182 is getting a complete make over :up:

 

[Russ]

I cant wait to see what you do to my old best friend mate.

Good luck on the build.

Thanks mate, it'll be an interesting journey I'm sure :grimacing:

 

[Mr Plums]

Haha, deffo, keep me updated, it should have meg 225 pistons and head gasket, let me know buddy.

 

[Russ]

Got a few things to sort prior to her MOT then she's ready to hit the B roads, cant wait!