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F4R'd ITB'd '92 cup racer
did you wet the wrap matt?
i did my 106 manifold, if you spray it with water (dont soak it) before applying it makes it much easier to work with, also dries tighter. mine has never come loose, only problem is that ive caught it on the ground a few times and it has torn in places. not a problem with the clio's though.
i did my 106 manifold, if you spray it with water (dont soak it) before applying it makes it much easier to work with, also dries tighter. mine has never come loose, only problem is that ive caught it on the ground a few times and it has torn in places. not a problem with the clio's though.
'92 172, Lotus Elise
engine out.. again 
- neighbours must think i do it for fun
heres some pics of the bores - the flash accentuates everything (e.g. the hone marks) but you can clearly see where a piston/ring has 'rusted' to the bore - or am i miles off?
building up a collection of crank cases :dapprove:
they see me rollin'
atleast the welding on the diff circlip is holding up! (even after track abuse)
- neighbours must think i do it for funheres some pics of the bores - the flash accentuates everything (e.g. the hone marks) but you can clearly see where a piston/ring has 'rusted' to the bore - or am i miles off?
building up a collection of crank cases :dapprove:
they see me rollin'
atleast the welding on the diff circlip is holding up! (even after track abuse)
'92 172, Lotus Elise
if piston rings are really expensive (£500) - then that takes them out of the equation
Can i not just use piston rings from engine #1 with crankcase #1 and the crank/rods/pistons from #2?
would it *need* to be honed, as it was working perfectly (compression wise) when i took it apart!!
if not, i'll have to get a new block.... again!!
Can i not just use piston rings from engine #1 with crankcase #1 and the crank/rods/pistons from #2?
would it *need* to be honed, as it was working perfectly (compression wise) when i took it apart!!
if not, i'll have to get a new block.... again!!
M
mini-valver
Rings are about £20 a cylinder fella! You have the engine out, dont just bodge bits of different engines ow or you'll be back to square one. Might aswell do it properly and whack some high comp pistons in and get the block honed. It wont be THAT expensive...
M
mini-valver
He's gonna use his old block dude AFAIK....
M
mini-valver
I got some rings for mine from groetze or something. Steve at Birchdown aranged them for me! £18 per cylinder...
'92 172, Lotus Elise
can you get hold of piston rings?
ITB'd MK1
maybe not at all - it seems piston rings are renault only, and very expensive
I'm taking them to an engineering place tomorrow as my final option, then its on to a new block!
not happy :dapprove:
rings are available from plenty of places, Perfect circle, Federal Mogul, Gotze. A decent engine reconditioner/machinist should be able to sort you out
probably standing water.
PM me all the engine details, I sourced dave's, for his from a place in birmingham, will get you a price if you want? Full set? x 4 Pistons?
'92 172, Lotus Elise
no where can source piston rings and i do not have the money to upgrade to forged etc..
so I'm using my original crank case and mains caps with the crank/bearings/rods/pistons from engine #2
I'm going to reuse the rings from #1 and put them back in the cylinder they came from nd hope it works basically.
stan@apd had my pistons and rings cause i sent them to him along with the rods and crank for the original grinding. this never happened cause the crank was bent so they've been sat in his workshop. they were picked up by a courier yesterday and were meant to be delievered to me today so i could maybe start building the engine up (I've got the crank in and a few others little things already).
However, they've not arrived. on my way to sainsburys earlier i passed a broken down DHL van with an AA mechanic scratching his head, knowing my luck my pistons are in the back. by the time i'd thought about being cheeky and pulling over to ask, i was long gone, so I guess i'll have to wait
the curse of LMG is spreading, no other vehicles can even transport her parts without sucomming to the curse
not sure when i'll be able to get it all running, and even i'll be impressed if the straight swap of the crank works too
bmh.01 sent me the torque settings for the engine too, which is very handy to have. turns out its pretty much the same as what haynes says for the 'f-series' engines, but it's nice to confirm
so I'm using my original crank case and mains caps with the crank/bearings/rods/pistons from engine #2
I'm going to reuse the rings from #1 and put them back in the cylinder they came from nd hope it works basically.
stan@apd had my pistons and rings cause i sent them to him along with the rods and crank for the original grinding. this never happened cause the crank was bent so they've been sat in his workshop. they were picked up by a courier yesterday and were meant to be delievered to me today so i could maybe start building the engine up (I've got the crank in and a few others little things already).
However, they've not arrived. on my way to sainsburys earlier i passed a broken down DHL van with an AA mechanic scratching his head, knowing my luck my pistons are in the back. by the time i'd thought about being cheeky and pulling over to ask, i was long gone, so I guess i'll have to wait
the curse of LMG is spreading, no other vehicles can even transport her parts without sucomming to the curse
not sure when i'll be able to get it all running, and even i'll be impressed if the straight swap of the crank works too
bmh.01 sent me the torque settings for the engine too, which is very handy to have. turns out its pretty much the same as what haynes says for the 'f-series' engines, but it's nice to confirm
ITB'd MK1
no need to use renault rings, as i said there's plenty of options or perfectly acceptable quality. I'd expect to pay £60 for a set
ITB'd MK1
can try for you. small chance there's a set at work already
Mine says £30 for a set £120 for 4x set. I'd ring your local stealers first before you write it off, my version of dialogys is from late 2007 so its much more up to date than the old 2003 version that gets sols on ebay. Hence the prices aren't very reliable from that.
LY 182
http://www.gosnays.co.uk/
ring those fellas matt.
im sure they deliver but if not i live about 3 doors down so can collect and send them..
they sell so many parts for obscure engines i'd quite happily gaurentee you they can get them/have them in stock..
ring those fellas matt.
im sure they deliver but if not i live about 3 doors down so can collect and send them..
they sell so many parts for obscure engines i'd quite happily gaurentee you they can get them/have them in stock..
'92 172, Lotus Elise
phoned renault, they said £36.01 inc the vat per piston, which bmh.01 said. they gave the same part number too
gosnays said they didnt have anything for the F4R
so looks like i might as well get them ordered from renault. about £144.
then i'll need to get my block honed and check the mains to make sure the old crank didnt fook them, but i suspect its ok!
gosnays said they didnt have anything for the F4R
so looks like i might as well get them ordered from renault. about £144.
then i'll need to get my block honed and check the mains to make sure the old crank didnt fook them, but i suspect its ok!
F4R'd ITB'd '92 cup racer
how the hell haven't you lost motivation yet?
i've lost motivation because i went to check on the car last weekend after it rained ALOT! to find a 2 inch puddle behind each bucket seat, and the drivers seat to be soaked through with smelly rain water. serves me right for not sealing the sunroof panel, but i wasnt expecting so much rain!
i've lost motivation because i went to check on the car last weekend after it rained ALOT! to find a 2 inch puddle behind each bucket seat, and the drivers seat to be soaked through with smelly rain water. serves me right for not sealing the sunroof panel, but i wasnt expecting so much rain!
'92 172, Lotus Elise
i almost have mate
but it needs to be done, and im so close!
found a machine shop who can hone it for me. i'm going to get them to check the crank first though, to make sure its ok... as i really want to be sure
then hone it, new piston rings... and away i go!
the rest of the conversion is pretty much done anyway (it drove to FCS and did the track time)
but it needs to be done, and im so close!
found a machine shop who can hone it for me. i'm going to get them to check the crank first though, to make sure its ok... as i really want to be sure
then hone it, new piston rings... and away i go!
the rest of the conversion is pretty much done anyway (it drove to FCS and did the track time)
M
mini-valver
Glad you're still moving forward with it fella! Will be such a weapon when it's making proper power!!
