The Fatty's KTEC alternative induction setup that works just as well!

[20vKarlos]

HAHAHA how did you come to that conclusion? In the past I've used cotton (K&N, Jetex, universal), foam (ITG & Pipercross) & dry-flow (AEM fibrous type material) and all do a similar job in reality, some will filter a tad better, others will flow a tad more, and they all sound a little different too. From what I've read you want a filter with a decent surface area to suck as much air as possible, especially with an N/A engine.

I mean.. i guess i just jumped to that conclusion, just by the way it looks 😂😂

So is that filter huge then?
Also, I'm a bit of a brand freak... don't ask me why... well, maybe it's because i grew up poor 😂, but now I can afford a branded product, I choose that over a non branded one 🙈

 

[imprezaworks]

I would still go for a branded one for piece of mind tbh. Yeah the none branded one maybe just fine but for an extra tenner imo its what I would do. Unless someone found a cheap one and it proved to filter aswell as the slightly more expensive one.

It's not like these cars are that sensitive or restricted even as standard. People even run the filter off the side off the throttle body with no issues. Yeah you 'may' get heat soak but we don't live in a desert.

 

[JB21]

I would still go for a branded one for piece of mind tbh. Yeah the none branded one maybe just fine but for an extra tenner imo its what I would do. Unless someone found a cheap one and it proved to filter aswell as the slightly more expensive one.

It's not like these cars are that sensitive or restricted even as standard. People even run the filter off the side off the throttle body with no issues. Yeah you 'may' get heat soak but we don't live in a desert.

I've had universal ones in the past with no issues (short term), but as you say you'd never really know how many particles they where letting through without proper testing or long term use. Probably not worth the risk to save £10-15 as you say.

 

[Jekyll]

Can't imagine a cotton one will be much different to the foam ones.

 

[Rystar]

How are well all securing these then? Been running mine for around 6 months now with it just hanging and wedged under the battery ground wire. Is it a case of zipties to the nearest panel or what? Noticed the rubber on my ramair is starting to split at the neck as well which is annoying :/

 

[Karlos182]

Just been out installing mine as the polished pipe came today:

Didn't need cable ties as it's wedged in tightly between the battery and headlight. The pipe rests against the metal where the old air feed went, which is a little annoying as it will scratch it but all in an easy setup. Been for a very quick drive and definitely more throaty sounding above 3k rpm but not as loud as I had imagined. A whole lot neater than the oem setup.

 

[Jekyll]

Mine has a note change at 2.5k as well as 5k.

May try and get a video later in the week.

Also, I've put a bit of rubber strip on the brace so that it doesn't rub. Not really noticeable on mine as i have silicone pipes but it's worth a try on the ally bends.

 

[SWL16]

Planning on putting my kit in this weekend. Any thoughts on how far you need to drive after you've installed it for the ECU to fully adapt? (read about this earlier in the thread).

I only ask because I'm thinking of doing a RR day soon.

 

[imprezaworks]

Not very long

 

[Stay Puft]

For the ecu to adapt?? @SWL16 you doing SRR?

 

[SWL16]

For the ecu to adapt?? @SWL16 you doing SRR?

Definitely going to Surrey RR. Don't know if I'll be doing the cliosport day though. May just be going separately with a mate.

 

[Stay Puft]

Definitely going to Surrey RR. Don't know if I'll be doing the cliosport day though. May just be going separately with a mate.

Fair enough mate. Does your car move?? Not seen you around Pompey.

 

[SWL16]

Fair enough mate. Does your car move?? Not seen you around Pompey.

Haha yup, everyday! Only Southsea to Hilsea though for work, plus frequent drives in the country roads around here.

Fatty Kit fitted (with the larger RamAir filter). Initial thoughts:

Love the sound!!! Makes it a lot deeper and more meaningful. Only really kicks in above 3000rpm with a decent amount of throttle. Cruises quietly on the motorway still so hasn't ruined everyday driving.

I was worried about a loss of performance, and it has definitely changed. Initially it bogged down a bit before the 5k kick, but after driving for a while it all seemed to smooth out. I honestly couldn't say if there is more or less power now (which is a good thing). However the 5k kick seems smoother than with the standard airbox. Anyone else think this?

 

[hipwell]

I didn't notice any difference to be honest. It just sounds mental lol

 

[Karlos182]

Pulled away earlier today and heard a metallic clanging sound. Thought I'd snapped a spring! Turns out the jubilee clip had popped off the air filter neck and was rattling around on the alloy bend! The twisting of the engine on its 12 year old mounts must have shaken it loose.

 

[Gary Pease]

Ordered a fatty induction set up yesterday then started thinking how would a 90mm reduced to 70mm elbow work out if you could get one?
With the reduction in pipe diameter speeding up air flow?

 

[Gary Pease]

Oh man fitted mi fatty's induction kit last night been out today and wow what a noise! Feels like a slight power increase too! Happy days

 

[Jekyll]

Such a cheap mod for smiles

 

[chris blue]

has anyone tried straightening out the route from filter to intake at throttle body. Is it possible to? - I mean by maybe using a flexible hose with less sharp angles- would that improve air flow. Right angles may affect smooth airflow.

Anyone tried ducting air from a vent (Side or bonnet scoop) direct into the throttle body rather than just from the engine bay- albeit near the batterys where ducts can be fitted from fogs. May get my existing set up (Not oem) measured on the Dyno at Surrey Rolling road day, then try something else

Nitrous ox anyone?

 

[Jekyll]

People have done a straight pipe off the throttle body to the filter before, but the battery has to be relocated to do so.

 

[Clio_fool]

For the effort I dont think there's going to be any noticeable gains. You want air flow to make more power, plumb a snail in.

 

[imprezaworks]

People have done a straight pipe off the throttle body to the filter before, but the battery has to be relocated to do so.

That works probably the best imo

 

[chris blue]

Obviuosly nice cold air adds perfromance- why nitrous is so good. Not sure if bendy or straight ducts would help performance or not
So maybe in the winter a nice straight duct through to the throttle body, see what happens

Mind you, i accept that most induction kits add nothing than a nice appearance and a bit of nice noise. But the noise is fun.....

Spoke to an enginner a couple years back, was trying to devise a way of chilling incoming air, quick enough to supply the engine for combustion

 

[Don]

Does anyone have the modern items I can get for this setup on my motor as obviously all the links are outraged and the original pics have since been removed. Thanks in advance.

 

[182Brodie]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390629059729 Filter

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151788765877 Pipe, need 70mm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190893996079 2 of these 70mm again

Also need some jubilee clips and zip ties to secure it and stop moving around

 

[rave]

Does anyone have the modern items I can get for this setup on my motor as obviously all the links are outraged and the original pics have since been removed. Thanks in advance.

I have all the kit for sale if you want it mate.

Does anyone have the modern items I can get for this setup on my motor as obviously all the links are outraged and the original pics have since been removed. Thanks in advance.

 

[Don]

I have all the kit for sale if you want it mate.

Need some more info mate. Colour is silicon....mileage done, price?

 

[Jekyll]

You can also buy a Ramair filter with a neck on, which means you only have to run 1 joiner. Will be slightly cheaper and less parts.

 

[Don]

You can also buy a Ramair filter with a neck on, which means you only have to run 1 joiner. Will be slightly cheaper and less parts.

Cheers Mark mate.
Appreciated.

 

[rave]

Need some more info mate. Colour is silicon....mileage done, price?

As per the original Fatty spec, silver metal intake pipe and Ram Air filter. Done around 4,000 miles.

 

[benito31]

If i want change my silicone inlet

 

[benito31]

If i want change my blue silicone inlet, the 70 mm is good? Thanks

 

[driver_hr]

Just about to order this setup, Ramair do 2 different sizes of the 70mm filter, one is bigger then the other, In the original post Fatty made the link he has put up is for the smaller filter, but will the bigger filter fit? I suppose the bigger the better really lol, i have added links for both filters.

Smaller one : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390629059729?clk_rvr_id=1214034802651&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

Larger one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RAMAIR-IN...467084?hash=item51c2cb7e8c:g:-PYAAOSw5ZBWGMCg

 

[loggyboy]

I went for the larger one. It fits ok with the battery pushed back as far as pos.

 

[driver_hr]

Ok thats great, just ordered it, thanks

 

[Don]

And make sure the offset means more room as dead centre means no matter how you affix it, it will be same distance away from battery.

 

[Daz 172]

Is the Ramair filter the nicest sounding for this setup ? Heard people say the ktec is a good sound ,wondering where ktec source there filters from ?

 

[imprezaworks]

Ramair probably and then rebrand probably

 

[Don]

Ramair probably and then rebrand probably

Yep and then Ktec Tax bunged on!

 

[Jekyll]

If you dig deep, you will find that ktec and ramair filters are identical.