New SM Intakes via group buy.

[Ex-User (72296)]

Maybe standard cams are better than 197 cams with the manifold? Would be a good comparison.

 

[JP83]

I have been lucky enough to purchase @Bear Head 's inlet setup, so mine will be run on a standard 172 engine.
Once it gets done, I'll post the results.

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

Maybe standard cams are better than 197 cams with the manifold? Would be a good comparison.

I could do with knowing the answer to this.
I'm intending to get one of these manifolds in the future, and with my cambelt now due I need to know wether it's worth chucking 197 cams in at the same time

 

[bloke]

I might try and get an overlay of a few different cars that have been done.

Shame they dicked me around when I was talking to them about being a distributor as would of had back to back runs done with the two different inlets on the same car.

 

[imprezaworks]

Cv.

 

[bloke]

Cv.

Oops!!!! Will go pick it up in five minutes.

 

[ADS_V6]

Cv.

Carls giving you a job reference

 

[bloke]

Someone keeps forgetting to pick a cv joint up for someone:wink:

 

[imprezaworks]

It really should be your first/second thought in the morning,

Maybe.

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Get my cup back from andy tomorrow afternoon, 240bhp 210lbs of torque, took up his stage 1 offer as it was £600 off normal price.

Thought id let him have a play with the inlet to see what him and efi come up with, they too had a ballache with the injectors position. Sorry andy.

Excuse the scruffy engine top, not had chance to paint up yet.

 

[imprezaworks]

Looking great

 

[Gus]

Get my cup back from andy tomorrow afternoon, 240bhp 210lbs of torque, took up his stage 1 offer as it was £600 off normal price.

Thought id let him have a play with the inlet to see what him and efi come up with, they too had a ballache with the injectors position. Sorry andy.

Excuse the scruffy engine top, not had chance to paint up yet.

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Looks awesome, any chance you can take some pics of the routing of the boost pipes going to the inlet.

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Yeah sure thing, ill have a bash tomorrow once i get her home after work, id imagine the one going into the inlet is going to the one parallel, its killing me knowing i have to wait

 

[RichieJA]

I've just ordered mine, currently in touch with efi to get it mapped, I want the air filter to sit in front of the battery because I have a caf leading there.
I have bda induction kit currently but that just won't fit,
Can anyone give me an idea what kind of hose would suit not sure on the angle of bend I would need as I doubt a straight one would suit.

I have one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390629059729
It fits in front of the battery but seems on the small side I don't want to choke the car and lose power or im I being paranoid.

 

[aucky]

I could do with knowing the answer to this.
I'm intending to get one of these manifolds in the future, and with my cambelt now due I need to know wether it's worth chucking 197 cams in at the same time

I know its slightly different, but the RS2 was designed to work with a standard engine. Maybe this is the same?
Mine has 197 cams but that's on a custom timing setup.

When its time for a belt change I think I'll go back to standard cams/timing with a ported head.

 

[Gus]

I've just ordered mine, currently in touch with efi to get it mapped, I want the air filter to sit in front of the battery because I have a caf leading there.
I have bda induction kit currently but that just won't fit,
Can anyone give me an idea what kind of hose would suit not sure on the angle of bend I would need as I doubt a straight one would suit.

I have one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390629059729
It fits in front of the battery but seems on the small side I don't want to choke the car and lose power or im I being paranoid.

you will need a 15 degree hose with long legs . it will need to be cut down a little. ASH sell it. you will then also need to cut the bracket a little by the head light.

 

[bloke]

Straight hose is fine.

 

[scotiamr2t]

@notfastnotfurious do you have a dyno graph? I seen andy posting about it on instagram an intrigued to see where it gained an lost over the standard inlet

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Not yet, its in the car, not getting it until tomorrow now as his recovery driver cant make it down my end until tomorrow afternoon, abit concerned but he says itl be on his driveway all night.

 

[Gus]

Straight hose is fine.

 

[bloke]

straight fits...

 

[BashRacing]

The new Design is further towards the front panel so needs a bend,
the older style above not so much

 

[bloke]

done new one with straight as well. the one pictured has got a chunk of the panel cut away as you can see the filter is bloody massive!!

 

[RichieJA]

Does the size of the filter matter ?
The ramair one I have seems small to me
Im going to buy a straight and a 15 degree so whoever is right ill send the other as a prize lol

 

[CallyTeee]

I know its slightly different, but the RS2 was designed to work with a standard engine. Maybe this is the same?
Mine has 197 cams but that's on a custom timing setup.

When its time for a belt change I think I'll go back to standard cams/timing with a ported head.

I'll take your cams if removing them

 

[Steven103]

straight fits...

...if you cut 6 square inches of sheet metal off of where the ECU bracket usually bolts to.

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Might not bother some, but it'd be a shame if someone less willing to dremel their chassis bought a straight bit of hose without knowing...

 

[bloke]

done new one with straight as well. the one pictured has got a chunk of the panel cut away as you can see the filter is bloody massive!!

Might not bother some, but it'd be a shame if someone less willing to dremel their chassis bought a straight bit of hose without knowing...

quoted myself there for you just to show where i'd already said about cutting due to the size of the filter:wink:

 

[melchy]

Just an observation, but the throttle body seems to be attached in 3 different positions to the inlet in the images above. Is that likely to matter at all, or have no impact?

 

[notfastnotfurious]

@optical the coolant hoses arent the way i thought, abit dark now to take a pic but they are done the same direction yours is, but cos my fan is on the other side of the rad the pipes are parrallel under the inlet as there is more room now

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Id like to know this as mine went on differently by 90degrees, thats how the holes were drilled

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Heres my graph, torque is low 😞

 

[bloke]

Just an observation, but the throttle body seems to be attached in 3 different positions to the inlet in the images above. Is that likely to matter at all, or have no impact?

spoke to chris about that a while ago and came t the conclusion it don't really matter.

 

[bloke]

Heres my graph, torque is low 😞

assume that's with the runners being short? most low boost i've seen run around 230/230.

mine lost around 10 lb/ft with the inlet on.

 

[notfastnotfurious]

What are runners?

 

[bloke]

the inlets, base of the plenum to the head.

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Oh yeah ha sorry, urm i really dont know, its the later version of inlet, was hoping to get more bhp but the torque on the n/a engine are low with the SM anyway so not really that suprised. Pulls well, just need a diff now

 

[bloke]

would be interesting to drive one running low boost to see how it compares to one on standard inlet, shame you didn't have graphs with both as a comparison.

 

[notfastnotfurious]

Look on andy instagram as hes put an explaination of the torque band, says its dropped in the mid range, but towards the end its gained alot more than standard inlets where the boost dies down

 

[bloke]

they do seem to work well top end that's for sure. mine picked up well after 5,000 then when we put cams in and billet flywheel it picked up a hell of a lot quicker, just wanted to keep revving. set the limiter at 7,900rpm. temped to stick 197/200 crank, rods and pistons in it, arp bolts on and up it a bit more just for a laugh:tonguewink:

 

[Grandpa Joe]

Looks good to me, nice flat torque and rising bhp. I'd take that over massive mid range.