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MERCEDES CLS AMG
Re: Cup TT ??
Depends on the engine you fit. If you keep the lump standard ( yeh right ) 150 / 180 / 225 bhp. If you modify the lump ( always go for the AGU engine Audi a3 / golf 150 bhp unit as it has the big port head ) you can expect from 270 bhp - 700 bhp depending on how far you wish to go. The cheapest option for big power most people opt for is the 300 - 350 bhp conversion. Most people keep the bottom end standard but if your going to use the car hard i recommend rods / pistons. A gt28 / VF34 with custom fabricated manifold / 440 injectors + other minor mods will give you this power. Your looking at around £3k to build an engine to this spec. I would invest in an LSD and suspension / brake mods with this type of power though.
Depends on the engine you fit. If you keep the lump standard ( yeh right ) 150 / 180 / 225 bhp. If you modify the lump ( always go for the AGU engine Audi a3 / golf 150 bhp unit as it has the big port head ) you can expect from 270 bhp - 700 bhp depending on how far you wish to go. The cheapest option for big power most people opt for is the 300 - 350 bhp conversion. Most people keep the bottom end standard but if your going to use the car hard i recommend rods / pistons. A gt28 / VF34 with custom fabricated manifold / 440 injectors + other minor mods will give you this power. Your looking at around £3k to build an engine to this spec. I would invest in an LSD and suspension / brake mods with this type of power though.
Re: Cup TT ??
Nice contradiction. ''too many people on here live their lives by numbers, mines around 270 bhp so i feel i can comment'' :lolup::rasp:
Nice contradiction. ''too many people on here live their lives by numbers, mines around 270 bhp so i feel i can comment'' :lolup::rasp:
Re: Cup TT ??
I believe that TT I saw you in a few months ago was your car
lol
You cant compare a TT to a Clio cup with a 20v lump.. you just cant!
Its heavier, has a quattro system killing the power, traction control...ect and its a bit girly
i feel i can coment on that as my Girlfriend has one
I believe that TT I saw you in a few months ago was your car
lolRe: Cup TT ??
Shut it youth!.... you need a 20v lump in your 172!!
as for a price.. its hard to say, i would never offer a drive in drive out... not enought hours in the day You'd be looking at £2500-£3000 for all the bits then just time and Labour but thats running an Emerald ecu (there £650+280 seet up)
I believe that TT I saw you in a few months ago was your car
Shut it youth!
.... you need a 20v lump in your 172!! as for a price.. its hard to say, i would never offer a drive in drive out... not enought hours in the day
You'd be looking at £2500-£3000 for all the bits then just time and Labour but thats running an Emerald ecu (there £650+280 seet up)Re: Cup TT ??
i have had plenty of 1.8t motor's , one of the best engine's around IMO , i had a 400bhp ibiza which was useless , lol , if the clio wasnt front wheel drive i would of considered putting a 1.8t lump in mine but as it is it would be useless even with a diff and sticky tyres , will be watching this thread !!!
i have had plenty of 1.8t motor's , one of the best engine's around IMO , i had a 400bhp ibiza which was useless , lol , if the clio wasnt front wheel drive i would of considered putting a 1.8t lump in mine but as it is it would be useless even with a diff and sticky tyres , will be watching this thread !!!
MERCEDES CLS AMG
Re: Cup TT ??
Mate - my 0 - 60 foot times at Santa pod were 1.7 seconds. That was with quaiife LSD and hoosier racing slicks. Thats 4WD territory. You can still go through bends on half throttle - you dont have to keep your foot planted on the throttle full time
Mate - my 0 - 60 foot times at Santa pod were 1.7 seconds. That was with quaiife LSD and hoosier racing slicks. Thats 4WD territory. You can still go through bends on half throttle - you dont have to keep your foot planted on the throttle full time
Re: Cup TT ??
400bhp. That must have been amusing on the road, what was the spec? Were u running grippy tires.
I think 300bhp is a good power for this project. It's going to be a road and track car so need to keep a little drivability and reliability.
On track 300-350 will be fine with decent tyres... Might be a handfull on the road
Oh and were running a TD04 evo turbo as a bit of an experiment... And it's allot cheaper than a vf34/28rs option, ok we will only get 330bhp max but that's more than enough to start. The target is a smooth reliable 300
400bhp. That must have been amusing on the road, what was the spec? Were u running grippy tires.
I think 300bhp is a good power for this project. It's going to be a road and track car so need to keep a little drivability and reliability.
On track 300-350 will be fine with decent tyres... Might be a handfull on the road
Oh and were running a TD04 evo turbo as a bit of an experiment... And it's allot cheaper than a vf34/28rs option, ok we will only get 330bhp max but that's more than enough to start. The target is a smooth reliable 300
Re: Cup TT ??
I would of man, but the 172 is my cheap runabout after selling the evo lol. maybe next year could do it.
Shut it youth!
as for a price.. its hard to say, i would never offer a drive in drive out... not enought hours in the day
I would of man, but the 172 is my cheap runabout after selling the evo lol. maybe next year could do it.
Re: Cup TT ??
A Little update on the Clio, This is how the car was when it arrived. Engine mounts have been made, to be fair the construction is ok but its a shame the engine was not aligned first lol
The cars been sat a while so its filthy and never a good sign when you find this sitting in the inlet port!! (its the base of an Injector)
Gear lever is a tad bodged and the old inlet that has been cut and welded is rubbish... oh and not forgetting the cut wires!! Brilliant!!
Subframe looks... well....... i wont be using it put it that way lol
After a good clean it looks a lot better..
Next stage... new subframe and fit the Clio DCI manual rack ( i hope it fits the 172 column) then realign the engine and modify the mounts.
Also need a new turbo as this one is to big lol
A Little update on the Clio, This is how the car was when it arrived. Engine mounts have been made, to be fair the construction is ok but its a shame the engine was not aligned first lol
The cars been sat a while so its filthy and never a good sign when you find this sitting in the inlet port!! (its the base of an Injector)
Gear lever is a tad bodged and the old inlet that has been cut and welded is rubbish... oh and not forgetting the cut wires!! Brilliant!!
Subframe looks... well....... i wont be using it put it that way lol
After a good clean it looks a lot better..
Next stage... new subframe and fit the Clio DCI manual rack ( i hope it fits the 172 column) then realign the engine and modify the mounts.
Also need a new turbo as this one is to big lol
172 - 249bhp @ the wheels
Re: Cup TT ??
Remeber seeing this at GDI a couple of years back... will be a right beast once it's finished
Remeber seeing this at GDI a couple of years back... will be a right beast once it's finished
MERCEDES CLS AMG
Re: Cup TT ??
The racks are interchangable flan - i used a 1.2 8v rack on a 172 cup Column.
The racks are interchangable flan - i used a 1.2 8v rack on a 172 cup Column.
MERCEDES CLS AMG
Re: Cup TT ??
Christ on a bike Stu! - cant thank you enough for that... im amazed at the state "you know who" left the car in and some of things that were done, yet in a way not suprised at all.. nothing suprises me with that guy now...
Kungfu: hi - yeh it has been to GDI a couple of times a long time ago for various bits and bobs... ive had her around 7 years now! jesus. Stu wouldnt have known its been to GDI really as its never had any "big" work done there like TB's, SC, turbo etc to warrant mentioning
Fred: hows it going chap?.. long time no speak... how long ago was it now since you did my wheels????.. once she is back on the road id like to pop back for a touch-up (to the wheels ) if thats ok... Message me Re:the rack-not a problem, not sure how much they go for though, cant be much eh
EDIT: If anyone knows anyone in need of an Evo turbo (TD05) please let me know too, ta
Christ on a bike Stu! - cant thank you enough for that... im amazed at the state "you know who" left the car in and some of things that were done, yet in a way not suprised at all.. nothing suprises me with that guy now...
Kungfu: hi - yeh it has been to GDI a couple of times a long time ago for various bits and bobs... ive had her around 7 years now! jesus. Stu wouldnt have known its been to GDI really as its never had any "big" work done there like TB's, SC, turbo etc to warrant mentioning
Fred: hows it going chap?.. long time no speak... how long ago was it now since you did my wheels????.. once she is back on the road id like to pop back for a touch-up (to the wheels ) if thats ok... Message me Re:the rack-not a problem, not sure how much they go for though, cant be much eh
EDIT: If anyone knows anyone in need of an Evo turbo (TD05) please let me know too, ta
Re: Cup TT ??
some break ive had!! been workin on the car all weekend but got lots done
New N/S mount
new dogbone mount
then the fun bit! Subframe... always fun with the zinc coating.. one unclean patch and the welder had a fit!
All done now
also picked up some more driveshafts.. Big thanks to Mark for sorting that out
Next step...painting and making the shafts...joy
some break ive had!! been workin on the car all weekend but got lots done
New N/S mount
new dogbone mount
then the fun bit! Subframe... always fun with the zinc coating.. one unclean patch and the welder had a fit!
All done now
also picked up some more driveshafts.. Big thanks to Mark for sorting that out
Next step...painting and making the shafts...joy
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Re: Cup TT ??
Nice work!
Nice work!
ValverInBits
Re: Cup TT ??
hope the boost piping works out ok with the pickup that side. Which side of the engine are you gonna come round off the turbo? N/S as normal? or try and do it like the stock TT and go O/S?
Cheers dudes!,
Were now using the std TT inlet manifold... the inlet temp sensor is 10mm from the bonnet catch
hope the boost piping works out ok with the pickup that side. Which side of the engine are you gonna come round off the turbo? N/S as normal? or try and do it like the stock TT and go O/S?
ValverInBits
Re: Cup TT ??
Forgot to mention stu. I've done a complete pin out of my entire AGU engine loom. I don't know what loom your using, but this may be helpful in the future.
http://www.mark-one.co.uk/downloads/AGU_EngineLoom.xls
I'm trying to work out the water route....having a big of trouble working out where the turbo water feed comes from. Might give you a PM later about it!
Forgot to mention stu. I've done a complete pin out of my entire AGU engine loom. I don't know what loom your using, but this may be helpful in the future.
http://www.mark-one.co.uk/downloads/AGU_EngineLoom.xls
I'm trying to work out the water route....having a big of trouble working out where the turbo water feed comes from. Might give you a PM later about it!
Re: Cup TT ??
One of the water lines goes into the back of the block. The other goes round the cam belt cover and into a steel pipe...along the front of the engine then into the pipes running into the heater matrix...
here is the K04 plummed onto the AGU (although i still need new copper washers)
One of the water lines goes into the back of the block. The other goes round the cam belt cover and into a steel pipe...along the front of the engine then into the pipes running into the heater matrix...
here is the K04 plummed onto the AGU (although i still need new copper washers)
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ValverInBits
Re: Clio TT (172 cup)
stu, have you got a part number and price for the manual clutch lever?
stu, have you got a part number and price for the manual clutch lever?
Iceberg 172
Re: Clio TT (172 cup)
Your welding is amazing!!
Your welding is amazing!!
