Brigsy's other cars - formerly kangoo 172 cup

[Brigsy]

The funny thing is... I’d written “did they not fancy serving your beans correctly” in the reply section... then read further on... saw the reply about the beans and went back through the photos because I thought I’d missed something ???


Attention to detail is absolutely perfect on this build!

Can I send you my ECU and UCH for you to code stuff out of it and send back to me? Just a long shot ????

Cheers mate just trying to get all the little bits right on this and hopefully will get a few trouble free trackdays out of it soon?

Are you going to Cs festival in August ? I can bring the laptop and clip with me to reconfig your setup to suit no bother. If not im sure we can sort something out?

 

[Brigsy]

I quite like it with the orange repeaters etc, it makes it look less modified (if you see what I mean ?)

I dont mind the orange either breaks up the white. I bought the clear bits but just could not be bothered to try them. Maybe in the future if i get really bored lol.

I think when a a strapping bloke comes screaming past you in a van with some tricky camber, white 2118’s and lowered I think you’ll forget about the orange repeaters[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Haha im not that big at the mo after massive diet, 13st9 feel like a shadow of my former self?

 

[Krarl]

Haha im not that big at the mo after massive diet, 13st9 feel like a shadow of my former self?

Probs still look like a meathead

 

[20vKarlos]

Cheers mate just trying to get all the little bits right on this and hopefully will get a few trouble free trackdays out of it soon?

Are you going to Cs festival in August ? I can bring the laptop and clip with me to reconfig your setup to suit no bother. If not im sure we can sort something out?

I’m not going to be at CSF I’m afraid, but I just love that this Diagnostic kit will literally do anything I need of it... I have access to VCDS for my Superb and the stuff ive played about with on that has been great.

I’m looking forward to seeing the new engine going in ??

 

[DaveDreads]

So you've just finished it, got it running right and you're going to rip it all out and put a Meg engine in it?

I think you should build another one, this one's too nice to pull apart.

 

[Brigsy]

So you've just finished it, got it running right and you're going to rip it all out and put a Meg engine in it?

I think you should build another one, this one's too nice to pull apart.

I wont be doing it for a long time yet, just parts gathering at the mo. There is an option to build the newer shape kangoo with the turbo lump - clio197/200 front suspension - i believe it might go on without too much fuss which would probably be awesome if it worked out. Need to get my Extra van back on the road first, will enjoy the current setup for a while and go from there.

Always wanted to go throttle bodies on it too but the price puts me off, i reckon a solid 200hp n/a on the current setup would be great. Never say never if the parts come up at the right price i guess. Use it lots in the meantime ?

 

[Bluebeard]

Just read this from start to finish. Cracking work!

(I will fire you even more questions over Facebook now... lol!)

 

[Rojer]

Can you just sell it to me as is please?

 

[Brigsy]

I’m not going to be at CSF I’m afraid, but I just love that this Diagnostic kit will literally do anything I need of it... I have access to VCDS for my Superb and the stuff ive played about with on that has been great.

I’m looking forward to seeing the new engine going in ??

Clip is great for the Renaults mate powerful bit of kit. Clone clip off ebay is quite reasonable to buy too?

Just read this from start to finish. Cracking work!

(I will fire you even more questions over Facebook now... lol!)

No worries mate if you need any advice just give me a shout. Its all about sharing the knowledge - ive found loads of info on here its great ?

Can you just sell it to me as is please?

Need to get some more use out of it before selling it. Will see when my Extra van is back on the road.

 

[Brigsy]

Box swap day. Steady 45mins and subframe is ready to drop, quick bit of dinner and scan a meg250 with clip then back on with it. Hopefully be running and driving with new gearbox, new clutch & pms shifter in tomorrow ?

 

[Brigsy]

Box swap took a bit longer than anticipated ?

Got box out fast enough, subframe off. Left steering rack in situ as all the hpas pipes looked like hassle to remove

New valeo clutch in - old one was Luk and well worn nearly to the rivets

Box back on Jc - 129 fitted to replace the knackered Jc 089 ph1 box. Filled up with oem Elf gear oil

Trial fit of Pms shifter to see what the score was. @H2MRK had advised me it needed to be dropped 20mm as Kangoo tunnel is higher than clio making selector rod hit the subframe when trying to select reverse

That was that for last weekend as ran out of time & needed a piece of 20mm alloy sheet to make a collar. Ordered a bit off ebay on Sunday with the aim of receiving it through the week.

 

[Brigsy]

Tuesday arrives and alloy plate arrives

X marks the spot that needs to be cut

Cutting this was not as easy as planned - 20mm is quite thick and grinder was not really touching it so got my mate to chain drill it out. We call his garage BAMS (back alley machine shop) anything goes lol. I would have usually got a machine shop to do this but costs were spiralling out of control

Quick tidy up with flapper wheel - function over form and not to be seen when fitted

Fitted - all gears select fine. Feels great too. Everything coated underneath with acf50 and corrosion block grease to keep it fresh

 

[Brigsy]

Clubsport look with gear gaitor fitted

So get it all back together early afternoon today. I needed to pop to a village a few miles away so take it for a run out. No tools or nothing as i like to live dangerously lol.

All goes well and was feeling a blast out so headed over Blakey Ridge and around Helmsley back roads. 100 miles later and with a massive smile i was back home no issues.

The Jc - 129 feels better on a stock engine - easier to keep in the power band and the pms shifter feels excellent every gear change is positive. Forgot how good it sounds too pops and bangs on upshift when on it. Looking forward to getting it on track at Blyton !

Needs a good clean but will have to wait for now though as a poorly meg 250 has a set of Bc coilovers waiting to be fitted tomorrow, mrs is not happy that they have been sat there for 2 weeks waiting to go on with this taking a little longer than anticipated ! Thanks for reading ?

 

[Daz.]

I have such a soft spot for this, always like to see what's next!

 

[Brigsy]

I have such a soft spot for this, always like to see what's next!

Cheers mate? Every mod or fix has always made a massive improvement on this as it was in such poor shape when bought so always feels like its worth doing the work. Its been quite enjoyable yet expensive to spanner. Got loads planned but just need more ££ ! Was only supposed to be a cheap runabout too lol

 

[Louis]

Do you have any rolling shots or video of this? Bet it looks so cool hooning about! Some lowered vans just look s**t and half arsed but yours is ace and done perfectly.

 

[182_steve]

Love it! The seats and PMS look great in the van haha

 

[Brigsy]

Do you have any rolling shots or video of this? Bet it looks so cool hooning about! Some lowered vans just look s**t and half arsed but yours is ace and done perfectly.

I have one from when the exhaust was first done, its a bit naughty though haha. I was going to get a drive by over Blakey yesterday but rain put a stop to it.

 

[Brigsy]

Quick blast to Teesside Autodrome for the track night tonight. Did not go on due to the rain but got a noise test whilst there - 4700rpm 102db. Might need to add a silencer lol.

Pms shifter was rattling like feck the other day. Fitted dampener onto it and its 75% improved. The weight makes the shifter feel different not sure if i preferred it before or now? Linkage needs slight adjustment to make reverse easier to get.

Brakes not as sharp as they used to be, didnt really notice the other day - i dont think i was using them much ? so fresh fluid and adjust rear shoes. Might see if funds will allow a set of ds1:11 pads for the front. Will see.

 

[182_steve]

Pms shifter was rattling like feck the other day. Fitted dampener onto it and its 75% improved. The weight makes the shifter feel different not sure if i preferred it before or now? Linkage needs slight adjustment to make reverse easier to get.

I have the PMS shifter and vibration dampener on my 182 - i never drove the car without the dampener as it all went on at the same time so can't comment there but with regards to the rattling, I went round the block when first fitted and sure enough, rattle rattle rattle. My OCD and need for everything to be neat and just was not happy about this (lol) so I thought of a very simple solution which might be worth a try in the van maybe?

I got an elastic band and did this;

I then fired up the car again, let it idle, no rattle....... was gently revving it, no rattle........ the band has enough 'give' to allow the movement for the gear changes (this is where a solid cable tie would be no good) and doesn't cause any issue, but is tight enough to stop it vibrating. To stop the band slipping off, I've just neatly held it down with some tape;

It's a bit basic I know, but all back together with the brand new gaiter that was fitted at the same time and you would never know

 

[Brigsy]

Ill give that a go @182_steve ? ive fitted the dampener and its cured 75% of the rattling so not as bad now but still room for improvement.

 

[Brigsy]

Small update

Mega busy week so Kangoo has sat there doing nothing. Wheels black with brake dust and fallout after last weeks mega b road blast.

Sunday comes and i have a free day so time to get a few jobs rattled off.

1st job is to check the brakes out as pedal has developed a bit of travel. Initially i thought it was just the rear shoes needed taking up. Pop druum off and rear cylinder is leaking so job knackered. Ordered new cylinders and some more motul rbf 600 fluid will tackle that next weekend.

Whilst in the air give the wheels a decontamination inside and out, sealed in preperation for mega brake dust at csf festival.

Still love these when clean. Half hour job previous poorboys wheel sealant has done the job well

A good mate of mine picked up a mega cheap Kubistar. Had a look round it and the dash was mint with no airbag and he was planning on selling the van so asked if a cheeky swap could be done..he eventually give in and said take what i want as long as it will still sell?

He rings me up mid day Sunday giving a small window to do the swap. Started the job 2:30pm cars and vans everywhere

Kubistar dash out

Kangoo dash out

My airbag dash vs glovebox dash. Feels lighter should have weighed it really

 

[Brigsy]

7:30pm job done and absolutely knackered due to heat and lack of food. Looks ok though and free

I had planned to collect a pair of ktec/vibratechnics mounts in Darlington so straight in the clio to get them after fitting dash ended up getting food at 10pm lol. My engine has a bit of a rock now you can change gear with new box so should sort it out.

I have also acquired an espace v6 airbox to fit. I really want to put this on however i had the kangoo noise tested last week and its 102db at 4700rpm so cant really add any more noise ! Ill prob bosh it on though and hope for the best.

So small list of stuff to do again before Blyton and i thought i was quite well prepared

1. Fit new rear cylinders, adjust shoes and bleed/flush fluid with fresh rbf500
2. Fit new engine mounts
3. Fit V6 airbox
4. Wash and apply more wax. Every weekend seems to be too hot to do it so hopefully get a cooler day.

 

[Brigsy]

In other news i fitted the Bc coilovers to the mrs meg 250 cup. Had a mare doing it as somebody had been there on the passenger side and fecked up a couple of bits. All sorted now looks and drives great, really impressed with the bc's for the cash. Lowered 40mm front 30mm rear from stock.

Wheels had mega fallout on them due to previous owner so decontaminated them and sealed on Sat. Had the mrs on the job its her car so get hands mucky haha. 3 hours on Sat to do them with bbc radio 1 ibiza weekend on the radio.

Done

Worth the effort i reckon, should have got before pics as really bad rust particles. Also renewed glovebox and dash trim below the Renaultsport plaque for new oem as a few scratches.

A stray has turned up for engine work/restoration work too so Renaults everywhere ! Its non stop at the mo.

Thanks for reading !

 

[Archtects]

I love the Megan!

 

[Brigsy]

I love the Megan!

Its awesome mate, i dont think you will get better for your money at the mo. Im not allowed to track this one its a street car only lol

 

[182_steve]

It's strange, wasn't a big fan of those Megane's but the colour of that with the black wheels looks great plus the new lows have transformed it!

Great work all round - dash with glovebox looks much better too!

 

[Krarl]

I wish I had your garage

It would give me an excuse to keep buying cars[emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Cookson]

Why no more pics of the missus?

 

[Brigsy]

It's strange, wasn't a big fan of those Megane's but the colour of that with the black wheels looks great plus the new lows have transformed it!

Great work all round - dash with glovebox looks much better too!

Cheers mate, its getting there ! Got a few more bits planned for it when money allows. Its an awesome daily driver at the moment, rides well on the bc's and ice cold aircon, plenty of power and half decent mpg.

I wish I had your garage

It would give me an excuse to keep buying cars[emoji23][emoji23]

Been thinking if i can get away with extending it forwards to make it bigger haha didnt plan on all these cars just happened

Why no more pics of the missus?

Ten mins of work and she was away haha

 

[Brigsy]

Got a bit done over the weekend

List from last time

1.Fit new rear cylinders, adjust shoes and bleed/flush fluid with fresh rbf500 - done - front pads are quite far down so got some pbs fronts on order

2. Fit new engine mounts - started pissing down so had to abandon it

3. Fit V6 airbox - all parts ready to fit

4. Wash and apply more wax. Every weekend seems to be too hot to do it so hopefully get a cooler day - done megane instead which took ages?

Had it on the local hunter anlignment to check the geo and it was out as expected. Camber was out on passenger side so took home to make adjustments and back in on Friday. Should still be on target for ready to roll this weekend

 

[Brigsy]

Give the megane a quick enhancement too. Started at 430pm last Sat, by the time it was taped and clayed it was 7pm. Quick hit with poorboys white diamond worked in with a finishing pad and then followed by a coat of collinite 476s before the light went. It needs a full correction badly but not got the time but looks a bit better for now.

 

[Brigsy]

As in previous post i had issues with the camber up front. I set it myself last year by elongating the top strut holes on the shocker with a carbide burr (oldskool way same as the gt turbo cup racers done it).

When i set it last year i done some maths and worked out how much the holes needed to be elongated by to give -2.5deg negative and used a template to suit. When the bolts were fully back in the slot the drivers side was -2.5deg and passenger side was -2.2 deg which was deemed close enough as im no race driver.

So had the strut to hub bolts undone when changing gearbox and passenger side was not fully home in the slot when refitting which made the camber miles out -1.3deg on passenger side and -2.5deg. One of my good mates can whack it on the hunter anlignment to set the toe but i have to set camber first as its just a quick blast.

So last night i undone strut bolts and the strut moved back to the mark on passenger side which would have given me -2.2deg again but i thought it was the ideal time to sort it to match drivers side.

Late night working under my led floodlight, 10pm after gym - 30 mins job done and checked with level/steel rule

Back on the hunter today. Taped spokes on wheels to save any marks. A bit anal maybe but want to keep then in decent nick. Looked mad when driving apparantly lol

Camber pretty much knacker each side now so pleased with that. 10 mins of toe out overall, works great for fast road/occasional track use.

Rear looks half decent too, camber a bit out but non adjustable so nothing can be done unless the stubs are chopped off and changed to clio setup. Drives absolutely bang on now best its ever been since ive owned it.

Pbs pads turned up too. I was going to buy ferodo ds1:11 as have used them on the megane 225 and they are awesome but not cheap. The pbs have been pushed a bit on facebook and was a little bit skeptical of them but had good feedback off a couple of lads i know so decided to give them a blast..got to be better than the stock trw pads that are fitted now. Will soon find out tomorrow once fitted and bedded in !

 

[Brigsy]

Managed to get a few hours on it on Sat

Vibratechnics engine and gearbox mounts on, excuse the rusty bolts did not have time to tart up

Espace V6 airbox on. Tight as feck to get in even with ph1 airbox pipe ! Just need to connect a cold air feed to it - @Ricardos has kindly sent me some over so job to do this week. Would have had the inlet facing the passenger side but due to the massive battery fitted no chance ! Will run caf in front of inlet to drivers side grill.

Pbs pads fitted and bedded in. Stopping power feels great when hot so should be good on track.

Downside is dust but cant have it all ! This is after break in so will be black after a bit of track use lol

Had a check over the brake lines that had been disturbed when fitting calipers and cylinders last week..i had to undo the passenger side flexi at the hard pipe as it was twisted. Checked it after bleeding no leaks but noticed a small weep after a few miles. Cranked up the fitting which almost resolved it however could still see the smallest bit of brake fluid when blue roll held against it which is not good enough.

Pulled pipe out to renew as could not get in to reflare the steel pipe in situ. I found a bit of s**t between the flexi and the flare which looked like it had caused the issue however as ive had to wrestle it out from behind the sound deadening will get a new kunifer pipe knocked up tomorrow, so its currently sat on the drive with no fecking brakes !

Looks like it will be a late night this week to get it sorted. Never ending prep this year ! Thanks for reading ?

 

[Brigsy]

New kunifer brake pipe and more Motul rbf600 fluid and we are back up and running. Test drive lastnight on shopping run brakes feel great.

Bought a bargain pipercross panel filter for £18 new off ebay and fitted the cold air feed to the airbox tonight. I would have routed feed behind battery but have this daft big merc diesel battery on which is fine so refuse to replace it until its fecked. Cant see the cold air feed length making much difference as its 105mm and no restrictions. Quick wash and its ready to go roll on Sat !

 

[Usr117063]

I think that battery would out live a nuke, euro car parts super sale time ?

 

[Brigsy]

It needs to go when i get some spare money. I was having issues with non start when i first got the van, I must have cranked it on and off 15-20 times when fault finding and it never showed any sign of going flat?

 

[Da Jenser]

i love dis car ... good work

 

[Brigsy]

Cs Festival done !

All cleaned up before

Quick stop on the a19 for a Costa(lot)

Brimmed the tank with Tesco 99 at Scunthorpe, 38-39mpg no problem on way there

Typically rained most of the journey there so ruined most of the cleaning efforts

Kangoo went fairly well on track - no massive issues or repairs required after which is always a bonus. Pms shifter, ad08r's and new gaz rear shocks felt great, a vast improvement since last trackday at Cadwell, gear selection is epic, tyres felt grippy and did not fall to pieces. Brakes were not up to scratch though sadly, should have followed instincts and spent the money on the ds1:11 pads instead of the pbs.

A few pics on track - Big thanks to @Dr Jekyll for them?

Decent coat of brake dust after first run out

 

[Brigsy]

Won a couple of goodies in the raffle ?

The aftermath brake dust central

Front wheels

Brake pedal had a lot of travel and handbrake had a lot of clicks so whipped drums off and reset the crappy self adjusters and checked shoes. Quite a bit of meat has worn off the shoes so adjusted the bar on the rear compensator. Not really touched the compensator bar as i could never get the rear wheels to lock up under braking but still far too much bias to the rear as compensator was always pulled closed giving full power to the rear drums.

The nut was right to the end of the adjuster due to the amount of lowering so had to chop the spring in half which give me the relevant adjustment. I was tempted to take the bar off fully cup style as i rarely carry load in the back and its always light or fix the compensator position with threaded bar. Im going to pop it on the brake rollers soon and check out what the braking force is like now its adjusted. Still it will be upgraded to rear discs as soon as money allows.

Rear wheels (lower in the pic ) had quite a bit of dust on too which indicated the drums were probably working a bit more than they should

Hardly any wear to the Ad08r's. They had a lot of pickup on after a few runs out on track which worn off on the way home, great for the money

Not impressed with the pbs pads however they still have s**t loads of meat left on them and i fancy doing Croft in October so will give them a 2nd chance. Need to get some road miles on and see if the vibration has gone up front - felt like pad deposits so will see if i can clean that off with a deglaze. Also will add some brake cooling via the front fog blanks and see how it goes ! Thanks for reading