Dr Jekyll's Ph1 172 Progress Thread

Mr R. · Apr 19, 2015

No mate, about £60 ish.

The Renault ones are threaded all of the way up so will stretch.

Jekyll · Apr 19, 2015

Hmm, perhaps I'll make a little purchase then if it helps. Don't really want it going bang again.

B-shaw557 · Apr 19, 2015

Bugger that is man

Fun times ahead switching them though. Brilliant excuse for upgrades also!

What's happening with the rest of the exclusive, if you dint mind me asking?

Greeny. · Apr 19, 2015

Thats s**t bad luck, heard you drive it like a grandma so surprised it happened tbh

Jekyll · Apr 19, 2015

Not all times @Greeny. I do have a play every now and again but most times I'm just taking it easy. The Induction kit that I fitted recently made me drive a bit more rebellious though.

@B-shaw557 Alex is having it, not sure what he's full plans are yet but I think he make be breaking it. Your best off dropping him a PM :smile:

Mr R. · Apr 19, 2015

Dr Jekyll said:
Hmm, perhaps I'll make a little purchase then if it helps. Don't really want it going bang again.

Might as well while the engine is out, easy job

My PH1 will happy rev to 7400 off the limiter, no problems.

Renault bolts are proper s**t.

Jekyll · Apr 19, 2015

I shall look into it Scott.

While the engine is out I will be getting a 197 master cylinder (and re-worked/re-routed brake lines to help with my pedal feel and feedback. I will also give the new engine a coat of paint and swap over my painted parts before it goes back in the 'berg.

Cub. · Apr 20, 2015

Sorry to see this bud, but at least you have a replacement engine lined up and a plan for sorting.

Scott is right, whilst putting the new engine in I'd throw some ARP's in. Not too pricey and worth it. I put a set in when I charged it but should have done before really.

Oh, and all the best clio 1*2's have eaten at least one engine. Welcome to the club. :wink:

Whilst extra cost, you may want to take the opportunity of the engine being out to do pain in the ass jobs like steering rack / EPAS / or things of that nature

Jekyll · Apr 20, 2015

No way man, mines a daily so still want it easy driving etc. All rack bushes etc was changed when the engine was out. I think I'll do the bolts and definitely the 197/200 master cylinder.

TheEvilGiraffe · Apr 20, 2015

Here's a hilariously stupid, borderline rhetorical question re: bolts..

Is it just a sump off, and replace one rod's worth at a time with the belts all intact kind of job.....? No more invasive than that...?

Cub. · Apr 20, 2015

TheEvilGiraffe said:
Here's a hilariously stupid, borderline rhetorical question re: bolts..

Is it just a sump off, and replace one rod's worth at a time with the belts all intact kind of job.....? No more invasive than that...?

Yep. With correct torque yada yada.

@TheEvilGiraffe - you'll need a new sump gasket aswell.

Mr R. · Apr 20, 2015

Cub. said:
Yep. With correct torque yada yada.

@TheEvilGiraffe - you'll need a new sump gasket aswell.

I also fitted a set of big end bearings while I was there.
£25 a set from Renault, although the ones in the engine where mint.

TheEvilGiraffe · Apr 20, 2015

Cub. said:
Yep. With correct torque yada yada.

@TheEvilGiraffe - you'll need a new sump gasket aswell.

Cheers Oli ... I'm not going to be doing it - was merely interested. The Sunflower isn't hanging around long enough to worry... if it goes bang - ho hum.

Got probably 3 track days left before it goes up for sale !

dmallett · Apr 20, 2015

Sump gasket cost me £23.12 from Reno if you wanted to know lol

NorthloopCup · Apr 20, 2015

Phase1sr said:
Might as well while the engine is out, easy job

My PH1 will happy rev to 7400 off the limiter, no problems.

Renault bolts are proper s**t.

My original engine has been seeing 8k on standard everything...............for quite some time now. Lol! No arp rod bolts either!
New engine will/should/better (delete as applicable) see 8k safely.

Mr R. · Apr 20, 2015

NorthloopCup said:
My original engine has been seeing 8k on standard everything...............for quite some time now. Lol! No arp rod bolts either!
New engine will/should/better (delete as applicable) see 8k safely.

Luck of the draw i guess mate.

NorthloopCup · Apr 20, 2015

Phase1sr said:
Luck of the draw i guess mate.

Yeah definitely. 100% agree with that.

Jekyll · Apr 20, 2015

I guess I didn't have that luck. I'm not 100% per cent on the bolts yet, as like people have said it's luck of the drawer. I'm sure you have given your car death as well @NorthloopCup

NorthloopCup · Apr 20, 2015

Dr Jekyll said:
I guess I didn't have that luck. I'm not 100% per cent on the bolts yet, as like people have said it's luck of the drawer. I'm sure you have given your car death as well @NorthloopCup

I'd would definitely fit a set of arp's mate. It's added security and peace of mind, plus it's much easier to do when the engine is out of the car.
I'm just a bell end mate. That's why I never bothered fitting any in my standard engine.

Jekyll · Apr 20, 2015

Seems it's the thing to do then and yeah it does make sense while it's all out. Plus it's piece of mind I guess.

Goes off shopping....

AlexW · Apr 21, 2015

I'm going to look into why Marks engine failed before I say fit ARP's. I know of plenty of engines that are fine without, and I suspect its not a bolt failure on Marks, but I shall see before I commite.

Progress will start as soon as I have space for two cars, so could be a while!

Mr R. · Apr 21, 2015

AlexW said:
I'm going to look into why Marks engine failed before I say fit ARP's. I know of plenty of engines that are fine without, and I suspect its not a bolt failure on Marks, but I shall see before I commite.

Progress will start as soon as I have space for two cars, so could be a while!

There's a big enough hole in the block, shouldn't take alot of working out. 😂

AlexW · Apr 23, 2015

Could be rod, or little end failure. Plus it could also be oil issue or similar.

Mr R. · Apr 23, 2015

Oh so no rod poking out then.
Be interesting to find out what failed.

GavC · Apr 23, 2015

Custom ITG induction kit is awesome! After having tried the fatty setup on here I've actually switched to the standard airbox with an ITG panel filter now - feels more responsive and goes up the rev range better although I do miss the induction noise at times. Filter sponge looks similar to the ramair one, would there be noticeable difference in noise between filters I wonder

Djw John · Apr 24, 2015

Block clearly couldnt take the big gains from the IK

Glad the plan is sorted so quickly and by the sounds of it cheaply.

Timmsy · May 23, 2015

Hows this coming along buddy? @Dr Jekyll

AlexW · May 23, 2015

Not started it yet, had other jobs to do first, got the doner car, plan to get it done next week now.

Fletcher · May 23, 2015

Unlucky mate

glad to hear you're fixing it mind

Rubicon_ · May 23, 2015

Bad news with the engine Mark.

Good to see your fixing it!

Jekyll · May 25, 2015

Went to see Alex recently as i dropped off some bits to him. As mentioned, the doner 172 is now on the drive:

Along with a few others:

First time ive had a look over the Exclusive and the engine looks in decent condition. Going to take a few bits off the doner 172 as they are in better condition than my current ones or spares that i want to paint. They are:

ECU cover
Brake reservoir cap
Bonnet rubber
Speaker covers
Upgraded front speakers
Side strips
Cigarette lighter
Ashtray
Rear caliper carriers
Bonnet catch and bracket
Battery brace

I will also be buying:

197/200 master cylinder
ARP rod bolts
New clutch cable
New steering wheel as i think the 300mm is a tad too small, even though ive kind got used to it. Alex has bought this for he's 1.9 172.

Mr R. · May 25, 2015

Do we know what failed on your old engine Mark?

Jekyll · May 25, 2015

Not yet Scott. Its not been removed yet.

Once the exclusive's engine is out i shall be painting the block black before it goes into mine.

Mr Plums · May 25, 2015

That exclusive looks lovely, glad you found a new engine asap mate, mine is away having a gbox fitted, money pits!

but enjoyable money pits

dmallett · May 25, 2015

I cant believe the exclusive was written off tbh

Mr Plums · May 25, 2015

dmallett said:
I cant believe the exclusive was written off tbh

What's up with it?

Jekyll · May 25, 2015

MrTom said:
That exclusive looks lovely, glad you found a new engine asap mate, mine is away having a gbox fitted, money pits! 😧 but enjoyable money pits :smile:

Is your gearbox being refurbed? And yes you are very much correct lol.

New engine, with belts, pulley and water pump all done last year.

@dmallett I know, minimal damage really.