Maddy's PB Ph1 172 Track Inspired Show Car & Weekend Toy

[MaddRT]

Hi all,

So I've made a post over @ 'New to forum' area with some background so check that out if you're interested in some context

I started recording my project last year on Instagram under @m444drt which I plan to still update as I go down to convenience as I'm more of the millennial generation haha


So lets start with present day,

My beloved 172 had recently come back from it's colour change & we are ramping up for show season 2020 having been accepted to Show & Shine @ London Cartel in July

Most recent work done is my partner & I fitting the PMS gear linkage and shifter kit (with the carbon of course) which we need to adjust this weekend

Problem areas are random coolant leak & hard brake pedal (need to check vacuum)


Plans are as follows:

• ZX12R Carb Throttle Bodies
• OMEX 600 Series ECU Engine Management
• Renault Clio Renaultsport Mk3 197hp Cam Shafts
• Mapping @ EFI Parts, Cheshire
• Enis Galijasevic Balanced Lightweight Crank Pulley
• JC5-083 Short Ratio Gearbox with Gripper Limited Slip Differential
• Pure Motorsport Black/Carbon Short Shifter
• Renault Laguna Front Splitter
• Black Sabelt 4-point Seatbelt Buckle Harnesses
• Carbon Rear Door Card Panels
• Black Roof Lining

 

[PP200t]

Hi and welcome. Car looks great, love petrol blue! Need more pictures though please.

 

[MaddRT]

Hi and welcome. Car looks great, love petrol blue! Need more pictures though please.

New Member Clio 172 Ph1 M444DRT, South Wales

Hi all, I've been on numerous Renault OC's on Facebook for years with previously owning Twingos (GT & RS) so I thought it best to make an account & introduce myself here I've owned my project ph1 since 2017. Some details below: Registered Nov 2000 original reg X821 SNW Titanium Silver 150,000...

cliosport.net

There's the link to my intro post which I added a few more pics

 

[Robclio98]

Seen this on instagram, petrol blue is a lovely colour!

 

[MaddRT]

Seen this on instagram, petrol blue is a lovely colour!

Thanks so much😁 will be making a post later!

 

[MaddRT]

so another weekend fiddling about in the garage

picked up these awesome LY 4 pots which we fitted☺️

 

[B-shaw557]

Love them Brembos
Almost put mine to shame lol!

Need them ITBs in asap

 

[MaddRT]

Love them Brembos
Almost put mine to shame lol!

Need them ITBs in asap

Ikr, opened the box last night cos forgot what they looked like😂

 

[cliocollins]

Which kit did you buy? Looks similar to the ATPower ITBs.

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[MaddRT]

Which kit did you buy? Looks similar to the ATPower ITBs.

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It’s the DanST ZX12R kit

 

[MaddRT]

So random coolant leak seems to have fixed itself (for now) level hasn't moved in 2 weeks and car has been started & left to rest. Will still need to keep an eye just to be sure.
Hard brake pedal we diagnosed as the vacuum pipe from the inlet being disconnected, my painters didn't re-connect it which is annoying, but it could've been worse so one less headache.
New brakes all round are now all bled up & they seem to do their job (altho the car is still in the air for now). PMS stud conversion all fitted & thread locked

 

[MaddRT]

a dilemma I need some help with.. bump strips (pics aren't great but hear me out)

body colour?


or

OE plastic? (needs a clean, not at that stage yet)


currently resounding answer is body colour but there's a few plastic fans which are drawing me in (once it's been restored/dressed etc)

ty

 

[MaddRT]

OMEX sold, decided the ME221 PnP route made more sense - the how-to guides look pretty comprehensive for a beginner to fit, does anyone have any horror stories I should know about fitting it?😁

 

[Martin_172]

I would say black plastic, once dressed etc always think that looks best even if it is a bit more maintenance, breaks it up a little

what did I do to deserve a facebook delete 😂😂

 

[MaddRT]

I would say black plastic, once dressed etc always think that looks best even if it is a bit more maintenance, breaks it up a little

what did I do to deserve a facebook delete 😂😂

Thanks Martin, I've purged all of my socials recently lol feel free to request again and I'll accept😁 (apologies)

 

[Djw Dave]

Black plastics once cleaned and dressed for me.

 

[MaddRT]

Black plastics once cleaned and dressed for me.

It's growing on me lol

 

[Louis]

So random coolant leak seems to have fixed itself (for now) level hasn't moved in 2 weeks and car has been started & left to rest. Will still need to keep an eye just to be sure.
Hard brake pedal we diagnosed as the vacuum pipe from the inlet being disconnected, my painters didn't re-connect it which is annoying, but it could've been worse so one less headache.
New brakes all round are now all bled up & they seem to do their job (altho the car is still in the air for now). PMS stud conversion all fitted & thread locked
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Hope you wiped away that excess threadlock! You only need a tiny bit for next time.

 

[MaddRT]

Okay so the OMEX 600 sold - getting in touch with OMEX to get more info on it meant I needed to spend an extra £300 for the harness & other sensors before fitting which I couldn't justify
So I did my research & managed to find a brand spanking new ME221 PnP for the Clio 172/182 which I decided was a better alternative

Looking at the guidance notes on fitting this it looks pretty idiot-proof - dare I tackle this myself?

 

[DomP182]

So random coolant leak seems to have fixed itself (for now) level hasn't moved in 2 weeks and car has been started & left to rest. Will still need to keep an eye just to be sure.
Hard brake pedal we diagnosed as the vacuum pipe from the inlet being disconnected, my painters didn't re-connect it which is annoying, but it could've been worse so one less headache.
New brakes all round are now all bled up & they seem to do their job (altho the car is still in the air for now). PMS stud conversion all fitted & thread locked
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Is that the rear disc spacer sat on the floor?

 

[MaddRT]

Is that the rear disc spacer sat on the floor?

already sorted👍

 

[MaddRT]

So car's on the floor again on my summer wheels even tho the weather is so bitter & standard rear lights are in due to a blunder on my part on resequencing the pins to ph2. Seatbelts to finish being fitted, a few bulbs, an exhaust clamp & some air in the tyres and she'll be ready for MOT later this week. Fingers crossed!
Anyone know what psi the tyres are supposed to be? Don't have a handbook with the car & no sticker cos respray tia

 

[B-shaw557]

I normally just go 31 for road use
That won't be far off what it's meant to be.

 

[MaddRT]

I normally just go 31 for road use
That won't be far off what it's meant to be.

Thankyou 😁

 

[Kenich.]

Black plastics once cleaned and dressed for me.

Clearly colour coded looks ace, but the plastics might match your wheels choice well

 

[MaddRT]

Clearly colour coded looks ace, but the plastics might match your wheels choice well

I agree

 

[MaddRT]

Some shortcomings whilst MOT prepping:
Seatbelt bolt was cross threading into the body so didn't want to chance that
Airbag light on due to trendlines - was told this could be sorted @ the testing centre
O/S Sidelight rings still not lighting up (unsure if I've mentioned this before) - have new unit so took that

Decided to wash the dust off with my sponsors snowfoam, big thanks to GIlbert Detailers!! Product used: https://www.gilbertdetailers.co.uk/product-page/1l-ph-neutral-snow-foam
They have some cool and useful stuff such as quick release pressure washer adaptors + use code M444DRT for 10% off storewide


Drove the car to the garage to firstly have its LSD box fitted - garage said it's in much better nick than my other one so happy with that
then due to the issues above we were told it would fail which we knew but the garage weren't very co-operative with us to sort them so will be travelling to Grange Service Station who are fitting the 197 cams etc. & will do the MOT. They seemed very knowledgeable & helpful so I feel reassured, fingers crossed

First time seeing the colour in natural light & it is spot on plus brakes performed great too so thumbs up overall! As you can see I stuck with the plastic bump strips, not been restored yet but I think it breaks up the colour well

Plus had some custom PH1-172 sill stickers made inspired by the 182 Trophy ones which are now on ebay available to buy - very happy with quality, super easy to apply and look great (colour is anthracite)


Yes it did rain on the way down after I washed it and now it is dirty again but hey that's life, will be getting my finest detail once she's all ready!

 

[Kenich.]

Some shortcomings whilst MOT prepping:
Drove the car to the garage to firstly have its LSD box fitted - garage said it's in much better nick than my other one so happy with that
then due to the issues above we were told it would fail which we knew but the garage weren't very co-operative with us to sort them so will be travelling to Grange Service Station who are fitting the 197 cams etc. & will do the MOT. They seemed very knowledgeable & helpful so I feel reassured, fingers crossed

I think my car has its service / belts done there a few years back, from what I have read they get good reviews with our little Clios.

 

[MaddRT]

Drove to Grange Service Station last night ready for the works to be done today. Just wanted to comment on the diff & how it now drives from standard.



Driving through residential initially, no difference felt. Due to the stripped out nature of the car all I usually hear is the exhaust so noisewise I can't comment.

Motorway driving again no change, cruising at 70ish best I could with no cruise control that I'm used to in my daily.

*Disclaimer: I do drive the car rather conservatively - we're approaching 160k and I love it so much that I do my best to preserve it. I do have a spare engine rotting in the garage which needs my attention so for now I'd like to take care of the current engine the best I can*

On the dual carriageways I could keep the speeds up (national speed limit) through corners and that's when it felt more planted.

Obviously corners on a dual carriageway aren't exactly 'twisties' and are still more sweeping than what the diff is capable of but for a first taste I am happy with it! I see the hype and bet it's invaluable in a track situation

Lastly more residential, stop-start traffic not ideal but didn't stall (just made a racket & me embarrassed to look at oncoming traffic that just don't get IT ha)


Overall not as 'brutal' as expected Mr @B-shaw557

Brand is Gripper for those curious

 

[-Rob]

Grippers are good diffs, the build is looking well!

I personally prefer colour coded bump strips on the sides. Makes it more modern.

 

[MaddRT]

Grippers are good diffs, the build is looking well!

I personally prefer colour coded bump strips on the sides. Makes it more modern.

Thankyou, getting there slowly!
I’m glad I had them done so I can swap & change when I fancy[emoji4] the plastics will look better once completely clean & dressed


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[MaddRT]

Cams in timed to 7 degrees, feels a lot more highly strung & wants to cut out when not giving throttle.
Response is mega though, very fun when pulling gears! Don't think I'll be taking it into work (again) any time soon lol made a racket trying to park! The joys of no ePAS & a car that wants to stall yay. Roll on EFI!
Kinda wanna track it but then I look at it and decide it's too pretty to track.. I've created a monster

Hardware-wise just got the ITBs & injectors left to install!

 

[Optimista]

It's beautiful!!
What size are the wheels? suits it perfect.
Also, i would ditch those headlights and get a set of new depo dark headlights, and a fabia splitter
Cheers

 

[MaddRT]

It's beautiful!!
What size are the wheels? suits it perfect.
Also, i would ditch those headlights and get a set of new depo dark headlights, and a fabia splitter
Cheers

Thankyou I agree lol
What headlights are those ones?
We’re going for a Laguna splitter👍

 

[B-shaw557]

Kinda wanna track it but then I look at it and decide it's too pretty to track.. I've created a monster

You can still track it, just dont crash it 😂

I feel like its a shame to build it to such a spec and never properly use it. You will never see the full benefit of a diff on a road, unless you want to loose your licence/life lol

 

[Optimista]

@maddrt
company called depo, they have a "dark" headlight option, the chrome is dark.. They do that for a lot of cars.. You can choose shiny or dark version..
Don't have any pictures tho..
What size are the wheels?

 

[MaddRT]

@maddrt
company called depo, they have a "dark" headlight option, the chrome is dark.. They do that for a lot of cars.. You can choose shiny or dark version..
Don't have any pictures tho..
What size are the wheels?

Ah don’t have the angel eyes tho?
Sorry I did type it, no idea why it didn’t come thro aha 16s


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[Optimista]

No, They are OEM like headlights, but black chrome.. Much better than angel eyes..

 

[MaddRT]

No, They are OEM like headlights, but black chrome.. Much better than angel eyes..

Ah I like the angel eyes personally, the rings light up with side lights & I like the look of that plus wanted angel eyes forever on a car

 

[MaddRT]

First day working on the engine yesterday, trying to prep to fit the ITBs


Few notes: Can’t run AC cos need cup alternator setup,
Need new ignition leads as OE ones won’t reach to the coil pack relocation bracket
I have 2 coil pack relocation brackets
How to successfully manoeuvre the ECU outta the housing is to be confirmed

Fitted:
PMS coil pack relocation bracket - 3 bolts (used the ones that came off the car). Coil pack not fitted yet as need nuts & leads as mentioned above
PMS breather plate - pretty easy, instant gasket around the perimeter of the plate secured down with I think6/7 capheads that came with the plate, no dramas
Breather tank - have to move PAS res & ECU so bit fiddly & bay looks a mess now. Fitted under coolant bottle, placement is tidy imo



Bit of a snag with the alternator as the bodies won't fit with it on so looking at options, PMS do a kit, cup kit, apparently need a cup PAS pump too?


To be continued..