Power Tool Perverts

[frayz]

If I were you I’d go for the m12 range mate. Being a snap on and dewalt man you’d probably hate the 18v battery on a drill.

I’m looking at getting a couple of 18v (high torque 1/2” & mid torque) but I know I’m going to be hating the battery (as I use my work mates 18v impact and the battery dangling off is pretty naff)

If I was just after a drill I’d go m12

My Dewalt kit is all 18V XR so im used to having the 18v battery. The Snap on stuff is the micro 14.4v stuff so its great for tight spaces. The 12v Milwaukee gear would be a downgrade to what i have right now so i think im after the more powerful drill.

 

[frayz]

I got this a few months ago and can’t fault it. Both the drill and impact have been spot on. I even bought one of those adaptor sets so I can use the impact on the car and it’s undone every bolt I’ve thrown at it (which granted isn’t many but you get the point). No idea how it differs to the kit you’ve linked.

Milwaukee M18FPP2A2-502X 18V FUEL Combi Drill and Impact Driver Kit - 2x 5Ah Batteries, Charger and Case

The Milwaukee M18FPP2A2-502X Bundle comes complete with the M18FPD2 Percussion drill, M18FID2 Impact driver, 2x M18B5 Batteries, M12-18FC Rapid charger and case

www.sgs-engineering.com

Thats the identical kit as im looking at without the OneKey functionality which unlocks a load of tool settings and tracking via an app.

 

[dann2707]

The one key is a gimmick. I don't ever use it on mine

When you say the 12v would be a downgrade, so you mean just the drill?

 

[jameswrx]

My Dewalt kit is all 18V XR so im used to having the 18v battery. The Snap on stuff is the micro 14.4v stuff so its great for tight spaces. The 12v Milwaukee gear would be a downgrade to what i have right now so i think im after the more powerful drill.

I’ve had a ribbing for liking snap on on this thread but the M12 drill goes way harder than the compact 14.4v snap on drill if that counts for anything. Same as my m12 3/8 impact, despite the 12v vs 14.4v snap on 3/8 it has a lot more poke. An m12 drill with a 4.0a or 6.0a battery is just a nice form to use.-

My point regards the 18v battery on Milwaukee is they kind of get a bit floppy and loose. It’s acceptable (almost) on a heavy old impact gun but I could see it being annoying on a drill.

 

[thecrim22]

I’ve had a ribbing for liking snap on on this thread but the M12 drill goes way harder than the compact 14.4v snap on drill if that counts for anything. Same as my m12 3/8 impact, despite the 12v vs 14.4v snap on 3/8 it has a lot more poke. An m12 drill with a 4.0a or 6.0a battery is just a nice form to use.-

My point regards the 18v battery on Milwaukee is they kind of get a bit floppy and loose. It’s acceptable (almost) on a heavy old impact gun but I could see it being annoying on a drill.

Ive had 2 cases on my 1/2 18v milwaukee gun due to battery flopping about and loosing conection ive got the older fuel and a one key fuel and both have had cases under warranty but my batteries are nearly 5 years old and still work fine ive just got to select which one i use on the gun if im working with it nose down but the same batteries never lose conection on the drill or any other of the tools

 

[Flat Eric]

Never seen the appeal to the One Key stuff personally, seems a gimmick.

 

[frayz]

I’ve had a ribbing for liking snap on on this thread but the M12 drill goes way harder than the compact 14.4v snap on drill if that counts for anything. Same as my m12 3/8 impact, despite the 12v vs 14.4v snap on 3/8 it has a lot more poke. An m12 drill with a 4.0a or 6.0a battery is just a nice form to use.-

My point regards the 18v battery on Milwaukee is they kind of get a bit floppy and loose. It’s acceptable (almost) on a heavy old impact gun but I could see it being annoying on a drill.

Yeah after 8 years my DeWalt batteries in the drill especially are looser than they were when new, i guess its to be expected. However they still charge and work fine and theyre only the 3.0Ah jobbies.
I dont have loads of kit as im just a home hero but as it stands im on a DeWalt 18v Drill/driver, Multitool, 1/2 impact gun and Jigsaw. Then the Snap-On micro lithium i have a 14.4 screwdriver gun and a 3/8 impact gun. Ive got corded tools too but they dont count here and now.

The new kit, whatever it may be will be replacing the 18v DeWalt drill and adding further to the lineup.

 

[Flat Eric]

I'd be getting M18 stuff if you are after jigsaws and stuff

 

[frayz]

Dropped into my local Screwfix today and the manager there was very helpful and let me look around a few bits of new Milwaukee kit including the M18 Fuel drill and impact driver i was eyeing up. As @jameswrx said, the battery is huge on it and felt really sloppy for a brand new item. It also felt pretty cheap in your hands compared to my old DeWalt donkey. Are they all like this or have i been shown a duffer?

Wondering now if i swallow the extra cash and cough up for the latest Flexvolt advantage DeWalt and accompany it with a small battery for the times you dont need it to be at full demand.

 

[thecrim22]

Dropped into my local Screwfix today and the manager there was very helpful and let me look around a few bits of new Milwaukee kit including the M18 Fuel drill and impact driver i was eyeing up. As @jameswrx said, the battery is huge on it and felt really sloppy for a brand new item. It also felt pretty cheap in your hands compared to my old DeWalt donkey. Are they all like this or have i been shown a duffer?

Wondering now if i swallow the extra cash and cough up for the latest Flexvolt advantage DeWalt and accompany it with a small battery for the times you dont need it to be at full demand.

Thats the kit ive got its got 4x 3ah 18v batteries but they are high output and similar power to a 5amp battery

 

[dann2707]

Dropped into my local Screwfix today and the manager there was very helpful and let me look around a few bits of new Milwaukee kit including the M18 Fuel drill and impact driver i was eyeing up. As @jameswrx said, the battery is huge on it and felt really sloppy for a brand new item. It also felt pretty cheap in your hands compared to my old DeWalt donkey. Are they all like this or have i been shown a duffer?

Wondering now if i swallow the extra cash and cough up for the latest Flexvolt advantage DeWalt and accompany it with a small battery for the times you dont need it to be at full demand.

Just tested mine and its slightly loose in there but it doesn't feel like it falling out or anything like that.

There are some bits of dewalt at work and it feels much cheaper than the mw stuff imo.

 

[frayz]

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Thats the kit ive got its got 4x 3ah 18v batteries but they are high output and similar power to a 5amp battery

See you’ve invested quite a bit in batteries there, are you using this all day to need 4x 3.0ah or did you just fancy it at the time of purchase?

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Frayz, I take it your not buying something to use every day?

I would quite like the Milwaukee set above but instead bought a set of new batteries for my ol'Makita and carried on - spent the savings a new wookie ratchet. It felt more satisfying than chucking a perfectly adequate drill away.

When the house renovation starts in earnest again next year Ill likely still buy a new drill but keep the old gear for helpers.

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Ahh, went back a page and see you destination fucked the Dewalt - in which case, yea stop dithering and buy red

*But if you have other battery compatible Dewalt tools buy yellow, these guys above just love buying stuff and touching dicks

 

[frayz]

@Touring_Rob
No mate. It’s just for home DIY and house works. I do use my kit quite a bit but nothing like what an actual tradesperson would require.

 

[Flat Eric]

I think the M12 stuff will more than suffice

 

[dann2707]

Ahh, went back a page and see you destination fucked the Dewalt - in which case, yea stop dithering and buy red

*But if you have other battery compatible Dewalt tools buy yellow, these guys above just love buying stuff and touching dicks

I'm actually really offended by this, how dare you not recommend the myl talk whee tools earlier on.

Now give me yer shlong!

 

[frayz]

It wasn’t the fact the new DeWalt stuff wasn’t as good as the Milwaukee. It was more of how much you got for your money buying red. It’s quite a bit cheaper.

 

[thecrim22]

See you’ve invested quite a bit in batteries there, are you using this all day to need 4x 3.0ah or did you just fancy it at the time of purchase?

It all came as part of the kit, i was needing a new drill as my old fuel one wasnt happy and was nearly 5 years old and had a lot of abuse still works but just fancied a new un and wanted an impact driver too as i was building a workshop and needed it for the sheeting screws

 

[Robbie Corbett]

It wasn’t the fact the new DeWalt stuff wasn’t as good as the Milwaukee. It was more of how much you got for your money buying red. It’s quite a bit cheaper.

I think where they are winning as a company is they are cheaper and in many areas better or as good as the competition. plus they have such a huge line up of useful draw filling, wallet emptying things.

 

[Krarl]

If you slate Milwaukee again I'll remove you from this thread @frayz 🤣🤣

The only reason @jameswrx is still here is because he succumbed to the power of proper red👀

 

[frayz]

If you slate Milwaukee again I'll remove you from this thread @frayz 🤣🤣

The only reason @jameswrx is still here is because he succumbed to the power of proper red👀

I didnt know id slated it yet, 😅

 

[OEM Battery Nonce]

If you slate Milwaukee again I'll remove you from this thread @frayz 🤣🤣

The only reason @jameswrx is still here is because he succumbed to the power of proper red👀

Flex at me b**ch.

Mill w**k hee.

 

[Robbie Corbett]

Flex at me b**ch.

Mill w**k hee.

Shots fired

 

[jameswrx]

Imagine that, go to shoot someone and the clip falls out!

 

[frayz]

Well, i went to have another look at the red stuff today.... I've made a decision and ordered some stuff.

 

[Flat Eric]

Well, i went to have another look at the red stuff today.... I've made a decision and ordered some stuff.

Suspense is killing me.
What you had?

 

[frayz]

Suspense is killing me.
What you had?

More suspense than the 2021 F1 season,

 

[Flat Eric]

More suspense than the 2021 F1 season,

I wouldn't go that far.

Did you got M18 or M12?

 

[frayz]

I wouldn't go that far.

Did you got M18 or M12?

Neither.

I had another look and decided i didn't like them enough to justify a swap, so have ordered some new DeWalt kit instead. I so very nearly pulled the trigger on a heap of Milwaukee stuff this week but glad i took the time to go look and feel first. Nothing wrong with any of it, but crucially nothing that i really thought was "wow" either. Certainly nothing that would make me want to change apart from it being a bit cheaper.

Yes the DeWalt is a bit more expensive and less trendy, but i like their kit and its not let me down so far. Made most sense to stick with what i like best.

Awaits the onslaught from the red army! 😂

 

[Flat Eric]

Neither.

I had another look and decided i didn't like them enough to justify a swap, so have ordered some new DeWalt kit instead. I so very nearly pulled the trigger on a heap of Milwaukee stuff this week but glad i took the time to go look and feel first. Nothing wrong with any of it, but crucially nothing that i really thought was "wow" either. Certainly nothing that would make me want to change apart from it being a bit cheaper.

Yes the DeWalt is a bit more expensive and less trendy, but i like their kit and its not let me down so far. Made most sense to stick with what i like best.

Awaits the onslaught from the red army! 😂

Fair enough, it's a shame you couldn't test them out as they are really good tools and very powerful

 

[frayz]

Fair enough, it's a shame you couldn't test them out as they are really good tools and very powerful

I'm sure in use, they're the business, I've no reason to believe otherwise.
Given the fact they were all new and sealed in the boxes, i was lucky to be allowed to take them out and have a look over, so i could only go on how they felt in my hand and looked to the eye.

 

[Flat Eric]

The carpenter that does bits round mine has all the top end dewslt stuff that he uses on site. I had a good look at it all and it does look and feel like good stuff.

The SDS drill he had was proper lightweight too

 

[frayz]

The carpenter that does bits round mine has all the top end dewslt stuff that he uses on site. I had a good look at it all and it does look and feel like good stuff.

The SDS drill he had was proper lightweight too

Ive gone for their 18v/54v Flexvolt Advance DCD999T drill and their impact driver plus a few batteries that i can swap around. I will be adding the Flexvolt SDS at some point too. Looking forward to trying it out when it arrives

 

[Krarl]

 

[leeds2592]

Neither.

I had another look and decided i didn't like them enough to justify a swap, so have ordered some new DeWalt kit instead. I so very nearly pulled the trigger on a heap of Milwaukee stuff this week but glad i took the time to go look and feel first. Nothing wrong with any of it, but crucially nothing that i really thought was "wow" either. Certainly nothing that would make me want to change apart from it being a bit cheaper.

Yes the DeWalt is a bit more expensive and less trendy, but i like their kit and its not let me down so far. Made most sense to stick with what i like best.

Awaits the onslaught from the red army! 😂

 

[frayz]

Goodies delivery today, treated myself to a few other odds and ends too, some stuff is still on back order but at least the drill & driver arrived.
54v battery is an absolute weapon on its own, if it dropped on someone, it would likely kill em! 😅

Awaits the DeWalt hate. 😁

 

[dann2707]

Ahhh I never knew the 54v was a 12v system also. I'm confused... How does that work? I guess it's in the name but not entirely sure.

 

[frayz]

Basically their new Flexvolt system can deliver up to 54v on certain tools that can take advantage of the extra juice. Mainly the bigger stuff like chainsaws and big chop saws etc. The batteries fit and can be used on all their 18v XR products.
So I have smaller standard sized batteries for your bread & butter work and the big Flexvolt battery when you need the extra poke.
Mainly for me it’s the quality/feel of the DeWalt stuff I like but seeing as the new DCD999T drill will make use of the Flexvolt tech, it seemed a good idea to get at least one of the big boy batteries.

 

[iimushroomzii]

Ahhh I never knew the 54v was a 12v system also. I'm confused... How does that work? I guess it's in the name but not entirely sure.

It's not, its 54v and 18v