santa pod qtr mile times

[Pugboy]

Any of you guys at the pod on sunday?

I saw one clio with the club sticker in (red 16v) and hung around for a bit but nobody seemed to obviously own it.

There was a good turn out of gtts but only a handful of clios. I didnt see any other cups or 172s on the strip. I was hoping for a friendly duel.

I managed a best of 15.06 from 4 runs but a bit disappointed not to get below 15 secs.

What are the best times for std 172/cups? I know my book says 14.8 and im sure thats achievable with a decent start.

Chris

 

[RobFenn]

Was the start the major problem then?

 

[rt172]

I witnessed a 14.93 from a Cup at Santa Pod a few weeks back. Craggy has a video of it.

Rhys

 

[Matbrown]

I got a 15.03 a couple of weeks ago, there was about 5 cups there on that day!!!
Agian, i struggled to get a good launch.



Mat.

 

[RobFenn]

Why dont you lot get some slicks for the front

 

[Pugboy]

It was either spining the wheels too much or over slippin clutch or not reactin quick enough. I think a 14.5 is possible in a cup. If I took my best reaction time against my best overall run then thats about what id have got.

I suppose the good thing is that you dont shaft your clutch as quick in a fwd car because you cant just drop it like in a scooby/evo. And thats why scoobies are quicker over qtr/60 than a cup when in the real world theyre slower. (std scoobies)

Had a very close defeat to a mk1 golf with a tt engine. Nothing in it at all surprisingly...

 

[Craggy]

yeah, i got the vid, but that cup was modified, what was your et mph?

 

[Pugboy]

I think 93.4

sound about right?

 

[Craggy]

possibly, you should be in 14s with that et, sounds like your loosing time on gear changes cos 93 mph is gud

 

[Pugboy]

sorry 92.6, got a pic...

 

[Pugboy]

I think it was my reactions off the start that lost it, that run was about 1 sec, best was 0.5s.

dont question my changes, im a veteran!

 

[Pugboy]

Main thing is, I didnt see any faster CTRs, the ones i saw were doin 15.3-16 typically. could have missed them though if someone knows better...

Cooper s did a 15.3, not sure if std.

pugboy

 

[m@thew]

the reaction time is not included in your time for the 1/4 only makes a difference if you are racing someone in the other lane

 

[Pugboy]

Didnt know that runner bean, i was a quarter mile virgin until sunday.

I stand corrected.

So perhaps 14.8 is a realistic time.

 

[Pugboy]

Matthew/runner bean.

That makes more sense cause I had wondered why I had lost by half a car length but it was half a second difference on the times.

So Im crap at changes then...

 

[night.icon]

Pug boy!

If it was a napples red valver with tints it was me

i was up the other end helping my mate with the silver beatle

 

[rt172]

Would be very suprised to see a standard Cup running 14.5 seconds 1/4 mile. It looks like 14.8/14.9 on an exceptional run is more like it with 15.0/15.1 normally. Still, under 15 seconds is very good....

 

[bondy]

my valver runs 15.5 which is about the best i managed

 

[Slugger]

I got a couple of 15.1s and a 15.2 in my cup a couple of weeks ago (the day mat went) and again my starts were not good. First time 1/4 miling. My speeds over the line were 94.25 93.88 92.17

 

[rt172]

Ive only been 1/4 miling once. Really enjoyed it but no matter how hard I concentrated, I kept either spinning up or bogging down on the line . 15.6 was my best in the 172. Cack!

 

[Red16]

Pugboy your reaction time doesnt affect the 1/4 mile time printed on the slip!



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It was either spining the wheels too much or over slippin clutch or not reactin quick enough. I think a 14.5 is possible in a cup. If I took my best reaction time against my best overall run then thats about what id have got.
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[aaronc]

15.9 was my best time. But that was sh*t loads of wheel spin. I rekon 15.5 with a good start.

Its funny when you look at 1/4 mile times a cup is only 0.3 - 0.6 seconds to quicker than a 16v in a striaght line!! And a 172 is slower than a cup!!

Makes you think there aint much difference!

Whats a V6 1/4 mile time??

 

[Neil82]

aaronc on the road the cup/ good 172 will be noticeably quicker than a 16 valve, ive seen valvers struggle to get below 16.6 secs 1/4 mile and also their terminal times are poor.

 

[aaronc]

16.6? well you saw some shagged valvers mate, my terminnal speed was about 88-91mph. just like i must have obviously raced a shagged 172 lol

 

[Neil82]

My old Primera SRi (modded) ran 15.8 1/4 mile and then I added an exhaust and cams so say 15.6 after that, now when I raced Teadys 172 he would totally and utter shaft my Primera a new ring.

 

[Nick Read]

From what Ive seen (and Ive seen a lot of Clios quarter mile) I cant think of any valver without serious mods that will run anything substantially below 16 seconds. 15.8s and 15.9s are even pushing it really. Terminal speeds around75-80mph usually...Aaron are you saying you did a 15.9 @88 mph?

 

[Neil82]

And the difference between a 14.8-15.2 car to a 15.8-16.2 car is huge in my experince on the road.

 

[172man]

aaron lol same guy who blows 172s away ahahaha

 

[Mrdemon]

just for those who say a standard elise is slower than a cup (from the other thread) i was there 2 weeks ago and a standard one did it in 14.3 ;-p



so not only do they coner 86.7 times faster they wip clio cups in the 1/4 mile too lol

 

[172man]

yeah but they dont cost 20k+

 

[teady172]

MrDemon,

Thats purley down to traction, not grunt!!

I dont think anyone was disputing that the elise would shade it off the line!

 

[geordiepaul]

Trev_m did the 1/4 mile in 14.9 in his 172 with only an exhaust!

 

[aaronc]

Quote: Originally posted by Nick Read on 01 April 2003

From what Ive seen (and Ive seen a lot of Clios quarter mile) I cant think of any valver without serious mods that will run anything substantially below 16 seconds. 15.8s and 15.9s are even pushing it really. Terminal speeds around75-80mph usually...Aaron are you saying you did a 15.9 @88 mph?

hi nick, yes 15.924 @ 87.62mph. And thats pretty much standard.

Why is that surprising?

1st run









Reaction


60ft


330 ft


1/8 mile


1/8 mph


¼ mile


¼ mph



Aaronc

0.751


2.543


6.833


10.343


69.87


15.924


87.62



Lotus Exige


1.198


2.401


6.216


9.426


76.79


14.621


92.76


2nd run









Reaction


60ft


330 ft


1/8 mile


1/8 mph


¼ mile


¼ mph



Aaronc

0.703


2.710


6.967


10.448


70.51


15.984


88.91



Williams


0.661


2.803


7.248


10.867


69.40


16.527


77.30

 

[aaronc]

Reaction


60ft


330 ft


1/8 mile


1/8 mph


¼ mile


¼ mph



Aaronc

0.703


2.710


6.967


10.448


70.51


15.984


88.91



Williams


0.661


2.803


7.248


10.867


69.40


16.527


77.30

 

[aaronc]

Quote: Originally posted by 172man on 02 April 2003


aaron lol same guy who blows 172s away ahahaha

???? i dont remember i blew away 172s......???? who said that?

 

[Pugboy]

Night.Icon - Yes it was naples red, and a very tidy example, shame we never had a chat/race, catch you next time.

Rhys - Youre right, I only suggested 14.5 cause I had (wrongly) thought the clock started with the green light.

Slugger - Pretty consistent times there, well have to have a head to head.

Red 16 - See answer to Rhys.

Mr Demon - Traction and rear wheel drive are the difference. Youre pi&&ed cause you paid big bucks for a few bits of aluminium glued together and a few old peugeot switches, covered with a bit of moulded plastic and an old british leyland lump. Nice car though!

Chris

 

[Mrdemon]

quote

"Trev_m did the 1/4 mile in 14.9 in his 172 with only an exhaust!"



what no wheels, engine,seats body etc wow thats some car er exhaust !!!!

 

[geordiepaul]

 

[Simon172]

haha, i wonder how fast i could run the quarter mile holding an exhaust making a noise like one "rrrrrroooooooaaaar" Id get much better traction than anyones car tho

 

[172man]

got mixed up sorry arron