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What sort of realistic gains..
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Chris205
ClioSport Club Member
Many Things
15 bhp improvements at different points in the rev range, particularly bottom end
The delivery is important. Peak numbers not so much so. It's proably only making around 170hp anyway. Maybe 175. A nice swell everywhere is going to feel quicker.
I'm sure you'll notice a difference. Really though if your looking for proper gains you need to be looking at ITB's, Supercharger or turbo conversion. All of which cost a lot of £££
Personally i've got a ktec stealth, purely for the noise, and apart from that a standard engine. I wouldn't personally bother trying to go for performance gains without doing it properly. Albeit the things your after are suposed to increase drivability a lot.
Personally i've got a ktec stealth, purely for the noise, and apart from that a standard engine. I wouldn't personally bother trying to go for performance gains without doing it properly. Albeit the things your after are suposed to increase drivability a lot.
Renault have been basically using the same engine for donkeys years, and keep fiddling to make it faster and faster each revision, chances are if it aint already been done by Renault it aint worth doing. As said above not worth it without spending silly money on doing it reet, and even then its minimal gains compared to what you'd get if you spent that much on a turbo charged car.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
I hate to say this again but it really does sum up normally asspirated engines.
There is no subsitute for cubic capacity, my dad said to me years ago, if you want to go fast, buy a fast car
There is no subsitute for cubic capacity, my dad said to me years ago, if you want to go fast, buy a fast car
Its called boost
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Nissan 350z
Yup totally agree with Danny.
Im getting an induction kit for the noise not the gains, hopefully getting a remap to cure the cold start not the gains. And ive got a SS catback to replace the rotting OEM not for gains.
If your interested in gains you need to go down the route of ITBs, Catcams etc.
Im getting an induction kit for the noise not the gains, hopefully getting a remap to cure the cold start not the gains. And ive got a SS catback to replace the rotting OEM not for gains.
If your interested in gains you need to go down the route of ITBs, Catcams etc.
i had a filter, full janspeed system, decat, and a remap cost me a few bob and wishd i hadnt bothered didnt feel any faster at all and to be honest it wasnt end of the day as danny 172 says na engines are non tunable in the long run buy a turbod car and ure sorted
Thats total rubbish. These engines are tuneable, you just have to spend money on the right mods to get it
200 FF Storm Grey
Ok cheers guys, 2bh I aint all that fussed about more power, but for the money I thought it might of been worth it although I fully understand than it real terms it'll be a better drive to the low down power.
Think i'm 1 of the lucky one's to have a decent standard engine though, seems to fair well agaisnt the big boys, think a rolling road is in order though just to cure my curiosity
Think i'm 1 of the lucky one's to have a decent standard engine though, seems to fair well agaisnt the big boys, think a rolling road is in order though just to cure my curiosity
On the other hand a 2k Clio and a 4k Supercharger conversion makes your VXR seem a very expensive option
Cams you can get good gains but not impressive peak pub talk figures plus a lot of work to fit. Iv got cams with other basic mods and its turned over a lot of bigger stuff with turbo's it had no right to
On the other hand a 2k Clio and a 4k Supercharger conversion makes your VXR seem a very expensive option
Cams you can get good gains but not impressive peak pub talk figures plus a lot of work to fit. Iv got cams with other basic mods and its turned over a lot of bigger stuff with turbo's it had no right to
I had a mate with a 1000 pound 200 sx, and not much more than 2 k in mods that had 300 hp ish, the point being?
The point he was making is that there are alot of cars out there that can be modded for bigger gains alot cheaper than a clio, as you mentioned his expensive VXR option, I thought I would counter that. The simple fact is, you have to throw silly money at a clio for gains, and even with a supercharger/TC or ITB's you can only go so far.
Matt black got big gains, that was from a T/C audi engine.
Matt black got big gains, that was from a T/C audi engine.
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Tell me how without the aid of a turbo/supercharger then?
Engines have limitations the Clio is no different.
The F4R is a great engine but as weeman rightfully stated, unless Renault have done it already then its a waste of time
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Crack on then, people seem to forget that the 172/182's normally arent the stated power to begin with.
I could throw enough money at my diesel volvo and make it do 0-60 in that time.
A remap on a astra vxr woulnt see 270bhp mate they dont produce book power i have seen one with remap and charge cooler made 241bhp at the fly
200 FF Storm Grey
I know I know, that wasn't my point, I was responding to the 'every engine has a limit' comment
Iceberg 172
As said previously, forget peak bhp figures. They're for internet bragging.
My polo was 300 bhp but was undriveable on the road.
Plus it's all about the power curve / delivery - that's where rolling roads are useful. People are far too hung up over peak bhp figures. They mean diddly squat!
My polo was 300 bhp but was undriveable on the road.
Plus it's all about the power curve / delivery - that's where rolling roads are useful. People are far too hung up over peak bhp figures. They mean diddly squat!
