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Astra VXR 17/05/07
Gotta love these Willy waving threads......
edde said:
Edde you know me, superbikes are not for me.
I have never said which is more desireable just the 182 is quicker. Im sure i could peddle R2 round the ring quicker than the Williams....
Anyways thats not the point, hope the cars all running ok.....
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
i have just sat and read the last couple of pages of this convo.....
i can't believe how immature some people are....and how many little gripes are being put in...i joined cliosport quite a while ago and it was all friendly..now it seems to have decended into 2 ranks..mark 1's and mark 2's..i still appreciate the work that go's into cliosport but can see why other clubs such as williamsclio was set up.
i can't believe how immature some people are....and how many little gripes are being put in...i joined cliosport quite a while ago and it was all friendly..now it seems to have decended into 2 ranks..mark 1's and mark 2's..i still appreciate the work that go's into cliosport but can see why other clubs such as williamsclio was set up.
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jamesy
my mates williams has hillpower induction kit, comp plugs and leads, decat and full scorpion stainless system and he has blown away>
clio 172
clio182
golf r32
mitsubishi gto
nissan 300zx
2.0 16v nova
205 mi 16
nissan silvia (s13/s14/s15) up an too they got griplol
cav gsi turbo
and too many others to list its safe to say there rapid
(but as you say at the end of the day there both renaults and both fast so whats it matter where all one big renault team!)
clio 172
clio182
golf r32
mitsubishi gto
nissan 300zx
2.0 16v nova
205 mi 16
nissan silvia (s13/s14/s15) up an too they got griplol
cav gsi turbo
and too many others to list its safe to say there rapid
(but as you say at the end of the day there both renaults and both fast so whats it matter where all one big renault team!)
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jamesy said:my mates williams has hillpower induction kit, comp plugs and leads, decat and full scorpion stainless system and he has blown away>
clio 172
clio182
golf r32
mitsubishi gto
nissan 300zx
2.0 16v nova
205 mi 16
nissan silvia (s13/s14/s15) up an too they got griplol
cav gsi turbo
and too many others to list its safe to say there rapid
(but as you say at the end of the day there both renaults and both fast so whats it matter where all one big renault team!)
Oh dear..........
J
jamesy
EVOgone said:
how do you mean?
J
jamesy
this is just off the mark i can only vouch for the nova/s15 of which was spinning and snaking for ages the rest so im told i find it far fetched myself but this is what he claims still as you say if driven well with a good launch perhaps not
megane coupe F7R
Standard vs standard a williams vs a 182 i would put money on it that it was a pretty even race. Is it so hard to belive that a 10+ year old williams can keep up with a 182? In the real world the differrence is absoloutly f**k all.
Loony said:
sorry but thats a s**t comment, have u actually driven a FRS properly or just read that out of a book? ive driven steves FRS (the one mentioned from the vid lol) and dont see the problem with the diff, makes it alot better to play with imo, and i can honestly say the interior is miles better then ANY renault interior !
as for the williams vs 182 etc, who cares ive driven all of them and prefer the williams for how it drives, but if i had the cash id be driving a FRS about without a doubt, its understandable for people to buy a 182, u get free warrenty for when the engine mounts f**k up, cat fails etc etc and they look great on a AA wagon lol quaility cars couldnt think of any other way to waste that much cash lol
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Why dont you lot just line up and see who can piss the furthest?
Nissan 350Z
Havent bothered reading this whole thread (not going to either), I had a little "play" with a Williams once, and I believe he was trying, and I'd say I managed to pull a couple of lengths on it to about 90.
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EVOgone said:
...my comment wasnt intended to be 'arsy' I just think its sad grown ups are still having an evolved "my dad can beat up your dad" arguement! Both are great cars, plain and simple.
A 2.0 Nova is a quick car there lighter and there better engines stock than the Renault 2.0
Mi16 must have had a hlf inch exhaust ther every quick cars.
R32 errr was it towing a house maybe they didn't know they were being raced against.
Evogone- I know the score I'd be interested to see which is quicker, as you know mines not standard (but its not as quick 1/4 mile as some standard cars). I was going to ring you to come down yesterday but never got the chance to. You'll have to come to a track day some time then you can compare the two cars.
There few good standard Williams to compare against though. At the Renault sport day at Oulotn I think mine was quicker than other 182/172's but then again it should be with the modifications its got. It lost out on shell corner as the exhaust kept disconnecting so the small advantage I built up was completly lost. Maybe thats the answer then the Williams/Mk2's aren't that much different but the Williams is older with the obvious weaknesses that this brings.
The cars broken though again I had a disagreement with the scenery
hopefully its nothing important have to get it to the garge its still drivable though
Eddd on here owned both cars though and said stock vs stock (ok Williams has to run different compound than the one it was originally desinged around but both cars would have the same compound) they could both do an 8.45 on the ring.
Martins car isn't that much modified its just a very good engine its just balenced remaped with an exhaust realy. It would beat any similarly modified Mk2 I'd say down the 1/4 mile.
See you on the 5th though.
Interestingly the 172 didn't win car of the year (Trpoy di though) the Williams got 6th place in Evo car of the decade award but they used other factors in the picking also they use the back roads where IMO a good Williams will possibly be quicker or more interesting to drive than a 182.
Don't get me wrong though the 182 maybe quicker stock vs stock on track but surly there other things more important than just speed and that doesn't mean to say that the William is more fun etc maybe we all need to look at the other side to see what were missing/gaining.
One thing cannot be disputed the Mk1's got a far better heater though.
Mi16 must have had a hlf inch exhaust ther every quick cars.
R32 errr was it towing a house maybe they didn't know they were being raced against.
Evogone- I know the score I'd be interested to see which is quicker, as you know mines not standard (but its not as quick 1/4 mile as some standard cars). I was going to ring you to come down yesterday but never got the chance to. You'll have to come to a track day some time then you can compare the two cars.
There few good standard Williams to compare against though. At the Renault sport day at Oulotn I think mine was quicker than other 182/172's but then again it should be with the modifications its got. It lost out on shell corner as the exhaust kept disconnecting so the small advantage I built up was completly lost. Maybe thats the answer then the Williams/Mk2's aren't that much different but the Williams is older with the obvious weaknesses that this brings.
The cars broken though again I had a disagreement with the scenery
hopefully its nothing important have to get it to the garge its still drivable though
Eddd on here owned both cars though and said stock vs stock (ok Williams has to run different compound than the one it was originally desinged around but both cars would have the same compound) they could both do an 8.45 on the ring.
Martins car isn't that much modified its just a very good engine its just balenced remaped with an exhaust realy. It would beat any similarly modified Mk2 I'd say down the 1/4 mile.
See you on the 5th though.
Interestingly the 172 didn't win car of the year (Trpoy di though) the Williams got 6th place in Evo car of the decade award but they used other factors in the picking also they use the back roads where IMO a good Williams will possibly be quicker or more interesting to drive than a 182.
Don't get me wrong though the 182 maybe quicker stock vs stock on track but surly there other things more important than just speed and that doesn't mean to say that the William is more fun etc maybe we all need to look at the other side to see what were missing/gaining.
One thing cannot be disputed the Mk1's got a far better heater though.
richy said:
How is personal opinion a s**t comment? i wasnt quoting incorrect specs i was stating an opinion which is subjective and therefore neither wright or wrong. If you said curry is disgusting and i disagree it doesnt mean its a s**t comment on your part, merely that we have differing tastes and opinions. I've driven plenty of cars over the years, some of which i like and others i hated and some in between but i'd never be ignorant enough to suggest that everyone would or should agree with my own personal opinion on each and every one of them
Loony said:How is personal opinion a sh*t comment? i wasnt quoting incorrect specs i was stating an opinion which is subjective and therefore neither wright or wrong. If you said curry is disgusting and i disagree it doesnt mean its a sh*t comment on your part, merely that we have differing tastes and opinions. I've driven plenty of cars over the years, some of which i like and others i hated and some in between but i'd never be ignorant enough to suggest that everyone would or should agree with my own personal opinion on each and every one of them
think his point was more to hi light the fact that have you driven a focus RS
if not shut it as your opinion counts for s**t,
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
EVOgone said:
i have a mark 1 and i was not getting arsey with my comments, i do not know much about cars in all the technical stuff but from general knowledge i would say the 182 would be quicker, although when out driving with the renaultsports club the 182's and 172's were struggling to keep with me through the twisties..but really pulled on the straights
at the end of the day as i have said before this is full of little gripes between the 2 ranks...although you can only read a voice on here..the way its typed seems to be getting at others..
why can't people say there opinions without getting at others
soon this club will go to the sh*t because of the people slagging of eachother..which will be a great shame....
we are all (ment to be) mature enthusiasts...lets try and act like it instead of men who are jealous because the other has a bigger penis...
My comment was just a simple std vs std the 182 is quicker than the Williams......Why all the
Never said which gets more looks, which is more fun to drive, which is best in the polls , which would you rather own, which is best etc....
I owned a Willams back when they were new over 10 years ago, it was a great car to drive and great fun. The missus has a 172 cup and i would say that this is a better car but its definately the faster of the two.
Willy owners always get uptight.....
Never said which gets more looks, which is more fun to drive, which is best in the polls , which would you rather own, which is best etc....
I owned a Willams back when they were new over 10 years ago, it was a great car to drive and great fun. The missus has a 172 cup and i would say that this is a better car but its definately the faster of the two.
Willy owners always get uptight.....
lmao at this thread.
the only quick mk2 clios are the rsported cups......end of
iv seen maybe 1 or 2 other 172s in the 14s at the strip, hardly any. loadsa willies, mk1 hybrids are there. and have been for years
as for which is quickest.....well my underpowered williams....std btm end, std cams, and a lowly 1800 valver head, again std, but with a chip, mapped to run cams etc, will still be showin a lot of u 172/182 guys what a williams looks like from behind.......just ask chris. his is one of the quickest cups iv seen, running nearly same mods, his more modded than mine, same driver ability, and i was maybe carrying more weight ..................according to most ppl on here, the result shud b me gettin wasted...........lol.....ask him
the only quick mk2 clios are the rsported cups......end of
iv seen maybe 1 or 2 other 172s in the 14s at the strip, hardly any. loadsa willies, mk1 hybrids are there. and have been for years
as for which is quickest.....well my underpowered williams....std btm end, std cams, and a lowly 1800 valver head, again std, but with a chip, mapped to run cams etc, will still be showin a lot of u 172/182 guys what a williams looks like from behind.......just ask chris. his is one of the quickest cups iv seen, running nearly same mods, his more modded than mine, same driver ability, and i was maybe carrying more weight ..................according to most ppl on here, the result shud b me gettin wasted...........lol.....ask him
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EVOgone said:
Does changing the stereo make it modified? Just asking...
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EVOgone said:
Thats spam as well isnt it?
