172 dead :-(

Ad · Dec 27, 2005

glad ur getting somewhere with it mate.

U will rag your motors!!! lol

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

well it turns out after stripping the inlet that the engine has blown a plug out, shredded the block and eaten the ht lead, FUCKED! gona try and get it helecoiled, hears some pics..................

Maz · Dec 28, 2005

ben_p said:
well it turns out after stripping the inlet that the engine has blown a plug out, shredded the block and eaten the ht lead, f**kED! gona try and get it helecoiled, hears some pics..................

Sounds bad mate :dapprove: ... hope you get it sorted

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

sorry about pics

Fred@BTM · Dec 28, 2005

good effort mate!!!!! helicoil it is!!

speak to CupCake, he had the same thing happen

PS, do i win a prize for my diagnosis???

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

u won a 2 week break in L.A. with 5k spends. how much are we sayin for a heli coil then?

clioworx · Dec 28, 2005

Should be about £40 or there abouts you will probably have to take the head off yourself.

Fred@BTM · Dec 28, 2005

no need to remove head, it can be done in situ

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

40 quid with head on we think. fred what im worried about is the fact why it blew out..... i have have it pluged ack in is it gona go bang again.

Fred@BTM · Dec 28, 2005

20secs on the limiter in 5th was the problem!!!!! LOL

it was probably ever so slightly not as tight as the others IIRC the tourque setting is around 25nm for plugs

it happens mate, you were just unlucky, get helicoiled, bang a new set of plugs in, replace HT, job done

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

Yes !!! (off For A Releaf w**k)

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

just gota find someone who can do it

edde · Dec 28, 2005

ben_p said:
just gota find someone who can do it

I told you I'd help not sure I'll help with giving you a releaf w*nk

TheCake · Dec 28, 2005

Thanks for the heads up Fred

I've just seen this thread. Basically the noise you could hear thata you originally described is the sound of the air being sucked in and forced out on the stroke of the piston as the engine internals are open to the outside.

Sounds f**king terrible. lol.

You have PM!

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

edde said:
I told you I'd help not sure I'll help with giving you a releaf w*nk

lol... do we know anyone who can do tis in the n/w

Neil G · Dec 28, 2005

F**k

I had better keep an eye on my plugs

Hope you get it sorted

edde · Dec 28, 2005

j3neds probably your best bet as he has the engines up there as well.
I'm not sure what the problem is though is it just that the plug needs helicoiling out if so any garage can do it realy and replace the plugs etc

ben_p · Dec 28, 2005

mmm, im just worried about whats got in the block and why only that one blew

Irfan · Dec 29, 2005

If you had a serious loss of power then it could be one of the coils has failed (renaults are notorious for this). I think they are about £50 each from the dealer. My car had a similar noise and I had hardly any power and it turned out to be a coil.

edit: sorry didnt see this page!

ben_p · Dec 30, 2005

car is goin in for as helecoil on sat

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

ok up date so far, had the heli coil fitted today with new plugs, oil etc, whilst it was at the garage i had my 172 decat and new mid fitted, then we put the enginre together and started!

engine started all four cylinders are running but the b*****d thing is ideling at 4k, and the emmisions light is on?

i got it down to either we have missed a vacume pipe on re fit or somthing to do with the exhaust lambda ?

i have the first lambda in with the second out?

Mark_Petty · Jan 3, 2006

Does the emissions light come on if a decat pipe is fitted due to wrong sensors etc?? I'm sure I read something about it on here but not 100% sure.

Good news though about getting it fixed. Welldone mate

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

sometimes they do but its the 4k idle which im worried about

Adam · Jan 3, 2006

^^^ did u take ya foot of the throttle when u started it lol

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

Gareth · Jan 3, 2006

4k idle, lol, imagine a 4k idle with the 4k rattle, FPMSL.

Adam · Jan 3, 2006

or evan it could be all the fag dips from the guys at budget weighing it down........hahahah

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

BenR · Jan 3, 2006

check for an air leak and do a leakdown test.

When stripping a plug and helicoiling, its a wonderful world of mystery as to where swarf can get....and you dont want it inside, and especially not on a valve seat.

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

aperently they got it all out, where could it leak?

BenR · Jan 3, 2006

that is what a leak test is for lol.

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

lol. how is leak test contucted, ? could the de cat hav owt to do with it

ben_p · Jan 3, 2006

help lol

16v_jon · Jan 3, 2006

back of the inlet manifold there is the brake vac pipe that will make it idle high is it plugged in proper?

ben_p · Jan 4, 2006

ill look at this, ^^ got the car back today it still idling at 4k, but they put it on there clip and it brought up idle valve resitor?, is the vdo sensor nect to the t/b on the back of the inlet?

benji&eka · Jan 5, 2006

BenR said:
check for an air leak and do a leakdown test.

When stripping a plug and helicoiling, its a wonderful world of mystery as to where swarf can get....and you dont want it inside, and especially not on a valve seat.

CJ · Mar 7, 2006

Right, now my flippin car has done exactly the same thing and blown one of the spark plugs through. Does anyone know any places in the Swansea area that could do this for me?

ben_p · Mar 7, 2006

any good garage can do it, i got my head helicoiled. new plugs for 100+vat, just make sure they get all the swaf out!! they used a mini hover in my head, got all ov it out, then left the plugs out with the mani off and turned it over a few times which blew the dust n smaller bits out, never had any issues since

172 dead :-(

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