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Martin172,
Thank you for your 2 posts. They are also spot on.
Dammit, they messed up completely. On one hand they still seriously struggle in getting the standard car twitched up - 182 is still shouting for improvements - job done only halfway!!!!! On the other hand they have commercialized a Clio Dynamique with 2L power. Marketing insanity!
In short time a Renault sport badge will be just an ordinary word on paper. You will just read RS instead of Dynamique or even Authentique.
I am afraid that their new Clio RS 200 bhp (2006) will be the same story.
R
rich[182]
renault sport brand is being undermined by all these variants released to the masses
they cant even be bothered to manufacture a new rear badge that has renaultsport as 1 word brand like whats on the front seats
instead you get same renault badge thats on all clio range and a sport badge just added underneath
before long youll have all the maxpower baseball capped teenage numpties owning an RS Clio and giving the RS Clio a proper boy racer image
Its not rocket science but car manufacturers seem to struggle when it comes to hot hatches. Renault manage atleast to keep on making good ones.
I agree with the Cup being far too closely matched to the std 182.
Doesnt make sense really - why not just have a base 182 with no luxuaries and make everything options instead of "two" models that are pretty much the same.
Remapped derv Golf
Clio 182 Yozza edition
Sod the cup badge.
Rich-D
ClioSport Club Member
E90 LCI 330d
No, the mk2 was always 1110kg and the Cup 89kg lighter at 1021kg, but when the first info came out about the mk2 the actual kerb weight was unknown so they used the weight of the mk1 172 which is 1035kg.
Remember when the info for the 182 was first being circulated, the weights for that were unknown and the 1110kg of the mk2 was being used...
All valid points here but what im seeing is a car ripe for modification. This 182 cup has the power, the handling of the best 182 (and 172 from what people have said) currently available - all thats a bit sh*t is the interior. 900 odd quid saving can get buckets/steering wheel etc and still leave money left over for other stuff (trip to GDI anyone?).
Fair play, thats maybe not everyones thing (in which case, get an ordinary 182) but if it is, this is effectively a modifying bargain if youre starting from new. For this reason, id consider it more than a std 182 in the same way a Cup is more tempting than the 172...
Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 05 September 2004
No... the mk2 weighs 1110kg and the mk1 weighs 1035kg according to Renault!Quote: Originally posted by Neil82cup on 05 September 2004
Yeah I know but the mark 1 weighs 1100 kg not 1035 kg
Yeah but on a weight bridge a mark 1 is 1100 and a mark 2 is 1110. Ill trust an independent test over Renaults figures any day.
Discounting will be applied to both 182s (normal version or not) so bottom line, this new variant will always be the cheapest. In fact, given some of the feelings that are being made here that this cheap 182 is a little inferior (?), then you may actually save more than the 900 quid if public opinion becomes the same as dealers may have issues shifting them.
The point i was basically making was that if youre looking to modify a 182 (to a severe extent) then this is an ideal path as youre getting the same power/handling for cheaper, just not the bits youd probably be tearing out anyway. Certainly if i was going for a 182, id choose this as id junk the OE seats (from either variant) anyway - they just dont hold you in at all - and the steering wheel in favour of something better. I have to point out that having an unmodified car thats worth more than a modified one doesnt mean much to some people if its not to their liking.
10 years later
The 182 cup is pretty pointless imo, doesn't offer enough to be worth it.
Nice bump though, the best so far today (and we've seen a few!)
Nice bump though, the best so far today (and we've seen a few!)
About what??
To me it was clear from his comment that @scotty10 was aware of how old it all was. And didn't accidentally thread bump 10 years.
There's nothing wrong with a 182 cup...
The 10 year bump. It was pretty random.
Maybe he just randomly read it and decided to confirm initial suspicions ;P
At least it shows people are using the search function!
Arctic Blue 182
There's a search function?? ?
Think so. Start a thread about it just incase.
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