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Good idea deleting the vid. In future if you want blinkered prais I'd stick to posting on 197.net as people tend to tell it like it is on here.
brisa4984
ClioSport Club Member
It does on the spec
Turbo LY R27
Could be something as simple as it didnt go full throttle properly for some reason, could be the speedo under reads, could be you were going up a hill or had a car full of mates, impossible to tell from the video, it just doesnt look as quick as I would expect with that power.
Still a lovely car either way mate
Could be, my scan cause tells me my throttle position reads no more than 87?! Never seen 100, is that right? Idles at 11ish? I was on my own but it was absolutely red hot outside, don't no if that will change it? On the road it is fast, standard 200's etc are no problem, so might be the speedo. Thanks tho chip
Yes it has a diff, handling is very well setup, was outdoing caterams at cadwell.
I'm not after blinkered praise as I said in my last comment.
Could be, my scan cause tells me my throttle position reads no more than 87?! Never seen 100, is that right? Idles at 11ish? I was on my own but it was absolutely red hot outside, don't no if that will change it? On the road it is fast, standard 200's etc are no problem, so might be the speedo. Thanks tho chip
Im not as familiar with the 197 as the 172/182, but on a 172/182 it is completely normal for the throttle percentage to read less than 100 even though it is at full throttle.
Yes being hot out could potentially make an absolutely massive difference to performance, my video I posted for comparison was at about 10 degrees outside temp, so a very unfair comparison if yours was at the moment when its 30 odd.
The scan guage is a nice touch, looks factory where you have put it
Glad to hear it, too many people go for power and then stick with 1wd, more so with the 172 though as its dearer to get a diff for and a lower value car in the first place, at least with a 197 its only 20% of the cars value to put a diff in it not 100%, lol.
Albi Blue 197
Ive seenn and been in this car, and my missus has been in it on track also and it is absolutely rapid! Looks stunning in the flesh to, love the flaps and that it's a little different
Vomtastic around track ... felt awful for the rest of the day thanks to Mikes Supercharged beastie!
Fab car and extremely fast ... One day I will keep up
Turbo LY R27
Im not as familiar with the 197 as the 172/182, but on a 172/182 it is completely normal for the throttle percentage to read less than 100 even though it is at full throttle.
Yes being hot out could potentially make an absolutely massive difference to performance, my video I posted for comparison was at about 10 degrees outside temp, so a very unfair comparison if yours was at the moment when its 30 odd.
The scan guage is a nice touch, looks factory where you have put it
Glad to hear it, too many people go for power and then stick with 1wd, more so with the 172 though as its dearer to get a diff for and a lower value car in the first place, at least with a 197 its only 20% of the cars value to put a diff in it not 100%, lol.
Maybe the 197's are the same then? It was baking when I did it, and still had a few map adjustments to make. It is a big car as well and after watching mso's 330 cup vid his doesnt spin up. It didnt look far off and his is really light. I no last year when it was running 260 the heat sapped my power, so it could be a huge factor now with this weather, my 182 feels lifeless at the minute. Really easy to wire in as it just goes into the OBD port, simples
The diff was done when it was forged as at 260 it needed it so I knew with 300+ it was defo needed. I really didnt want to compromise the handling, and from that perspective it is on rails. I've made sure of that at least lol!
Seems reasonable, Ive often wondered if really it is throttle angle in degrees and its been lost in translation somehow to be a percentage, as that would make sense!
Get another video when its cooler
Yeah they are nice bits of kit, and it looks at home where you have it.Really easy to wire in as it just goes into the OBD port, simples
The diff was done when it was forged as at 260 it needed it so I knew with 300+ it was defo needed. I really didnt want to compromise the handling, and from that perspective it is on rails. I've made sure of that at least lol!
Even the standard car needs a diff on wet days or for really tight corners, boost without one is madness really, lol.
and we all love a bit of madness
Not when its just going slowly on the way out of a corner spinning one wheel we dont.
Coops Mk1
ClioSport Club Member
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we don't? but thats how i roll! lol!
feck diffing a chocolate JC5 series box though, it is the single biggest let down of the renault setup, i darent risk a diff for fear of splitting the box casing like Gaz did years back and munching a brand new diff
feck diffing a chocolate JC5 series box though, it is the single biggest let down of the renault setup, i darent risk a diff for fear of splitting the box casing like Gaz did years back and munching a brand new diff
we don't? but thats how i roll! lol!
feck diffing a chocolate JC5 series box though, it is the single biggest let down of the renault setup, i darent risk a diff for fear of splitting the box casing like Gaz did years back and munching a brand new diff
I kind of agree with you that the JC5 is a fragile place to put a diff, but TBH my quaiffe has made such a difference that I just wouldnt have the car without a decent diff, would sooner spend thousands on a VAG conversion or similar, I like bends not just straight lines and that means in a powerful FWD car I really do need a diff, totally spoils the drive otherwise.
Turbo LY R27
Seems reasonable, Ive often wondered if really it is throttle angle in degrees and its been lost in translation somehow to be a percentage, as that would make sense!
Get another video when its cooler
Yeah they are nice bits of kit, and it looks at home where you have it.
Even the standard car needs a diff on wet days or for really tight corners, boost without one is madness really, lol.
Yeah possibly mate
Lol maybe, or I can just take u out in it, you'd probably be able to gauge better if its at its potential or not
I agree, the 182's are a bit more playful with out the diff and can get away with it to a point, but I've always thought with the mk3's being bigger it could benefit from it in standard form. With the diff it's unreal, I think if I didn't do it, it would ruin the car with this power, you'd have to constantly back off where as now because of the power delivery u can just put it down whenever u dare really! Diff, v3's, and 888's are and epic combo! Cadwell blew me away once I'd fettled with the setup afte a few sessions. 
172
saw this car around this time last year in a service as i headed back down south, followed him out the services and next thing i knew a cloud of smoke and a good old roar and he was well on his way, i suspect it was on the lower power back then as it looked around a 220bhp car but sounded lovely none the less
RS Clio 200
Yea, but they are expensive unfortunately so seems e-diff is the future. Even the supercars are using them now like the amg sls's on top gear last night.
The quaiffe isn't a full LSD either isn't it?
The corsa burg comes with a drexler plated diff as standard, it was exceptional at pulling you around a corner rather than spinning up and sliding into a chav on his bicycle!
I havnt driven a car with a quaiffe/wavetrac, although i hear the wavetracs are supposed to be better than the quaiffe?
I havnt driven a car with a quaiffe/wavetrac, although i hear the wavetracs are supposed to be better than the quaiffe?
Ive not used a wavetrac but the only advantage Ive heard of from people who have is that they still offer drive if you lift a wheel, the quaiffe is very good upto that point, but it relies on seeing at least a tiny bit of resistance from both wheels to work properly
Nobody is getting on your back, it just isn't as fast as it should be with that power. Not worth getting it on a RR like RS tuning if your local just to get a second opinion? We all know what RS's are like and how they can play up from time to time! RR isn't just for the power whores, they can give you an indication to any problems that may exist, not that i'm telling you anything new there im sure as CS know nothing..apparently.
Your in MK?? Havnt seen you around, i need to keep an eye out for this car looks like a monster!
Nope it was my Clio with 250 engine....
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