Adeys F4RT Twingo GT

[Adey.]

Managed to finish off the fuel side of things. The Cooksport fuel rail is a nice bit of kit though the injector clips are a pain to fit to it, I ended up fitting them from the underside (in case anyone else looks here and has an issue) Re plumbed the fuel lines with some 8mm high pressure e10 compliant hose. Nothing fancy but functional The fuel setup should now be good for over 300bhp without the end cylinder running lean Oh and I took a delivery of a set of Megane 250rs pistons and rods which I may use in the future

 

[Adey.]

😁

 

[RSRowe]

So in an attempt to give you some entertainment whilst you’re recovering.

(Appreciate it’s a bit of a ‘how long is a piece of string’ question)

But would it be relatively simple to chuck a 197 into a GT? (Ideally with the TL4)

 

[Adey.]

Physically yes I think it would be straightforward using the correct parts. Will probably (95% sure of this) need the subframe notching

Wiring and ecu side you would want the rs133 stuff to run it.

 

[Twingo 1??]

So in an attempt to give you some entertainment whilst you’re recovering.

(Appreciate it’s a bit of a ‘how long is a piece of string’ question)

But would it be relatively simple to chuck a 197 into a GT? (Ideally with the TL4)

This would be my next step for extra grunt in my 133 if I feel the need. And if I ever get it finished as it is 🤣. I probably wouldn't need something that is geared that high though 120mph would be good for me.

 

[RSRowe]

Nice one! 😎

I’m looking at running one in a couple of road rallies this year. 197 engine just seemed like a logical replacement too

 

[Twingo 1??]

Nice one! 😎

I’m looking at running one in a couple of road rallies this year. 197 engine just seemed like a logical replacement too

Nice, have you seen the gt road rally car on ebay?

 

[RSRowe]

Nice, have you seen the gt road rally car on ebay?

I have yeah. Seems like an ok buy for the money too.

 

[VenomUK]

From what I have seen on the forums is that the 197 swap is the more common of the two.

 

[Adey.]

Not really had much time to do anything or much to do on this really. Replaced the oil cap as mine has been broken forever, found the correct part numbered item on ebay so got that. I was gifted a stack of bits that included a decent sized air filter which looks tidy, it's from a mk7 golf but was easily made to fit the twingo. Looks a little neater in there now vs my dirty s2000 item. I have a green dot actuator on the way and hopefully a new exhaust which all being well I will get before mapping which is booked for the 2nd. The exhaust is a 2.5inch system which will replace my home made 2.5 mid section and 2.25 back box. Won't make much difference I don't think as its only really increasing the bore of the last foot and a half of my current setup. Plan is to get Scoff to try and get as close to 300bhp as it will do but without it letting go.... Big ask so keep your fingers crossed for me 🤞🏻

 

[Adey.]

Right in for mapping at EFI tomorrow at 12.30, I really want to scrape the 300bhp mark without blowing up just to willy wave.

So what are your guesses?

Setup is the same as before but with a proper flow through fuel rail and a 19T hybrid turbo....

 

[t90_lle]

Right in for mapping at EFI tomorrow at 12.30, I really want to scrape the 300bhp mark without blowing up just to willy wave.

So what are your guesses?

Setup is the same as before but with a proper flow through fuel rail and a 19T hybrid turbo....

299.99bhp 🤣

 

[RustyMojo]

Right in for mapping at EFI tomorrow at 12.30, I really want to scrape the 300bhp mark without blowing up just to willy wave.

So what are your guesses?

Setup is the same as before but with a proper flow through fuel rail and a 19T hybrid turbo....

Does closest the pin get some more crap out of the garage as a prize? I’m going 304

 

[Adey.]

Does closest the pin get some more crap out of the garage as a prize? I’m going 304

if you want to yeah?

@Brigsy won the last comp, Jon how bad was the crap box?

 

[Twingo 1??]

307.3 👌

 

[-Jamie-]

317.6

 

[Brigsy]

306/300 with beautiful curves.

Random crap box was awesome, we happy.

 

[alistairolsen]

300.1

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

305.8

 

[VenomUK]

296.3

 

[Adey.]

Long old day, but not as long as they used to be for me. Anyway I set off in the morning ready to a nice gentle drive up to see Chris at EFI Parts. All was going well until I was making some choo choo noises joining the m5, suddenly I had no boost at all A look in the mirror saw no smoke and there were no nasty noises so I drove on to the next services to investigate. Nothing major, a quick look around saw the actuator arm had jumped off the flapper, It was way to hot to sort there so I decided to do the next 100miles with no boost. It wasn't too bad, like driving a bigger engine Twingo still so I was able to cruise nicely all be it with a lot less acceleration and a lot more drone from the exhaust. With the gasses bypassing the turbo it got very loud, I think my ears are still ringing now.....



Arrived at EFI parts a little early, had a chat with Chris whilst the engine cooled off and then fixed the actuator back on, we also added a bit of wire to make sure it didn't happen again whilst mapping. Chris started doing his magic as usual and the car started making big numbers straight off the bat. The turbo seems to be pretty decent and at one point the car was making north of 310bhp just after 5500rpm! Anyway with it being a totally stock engine we reigned it back in to make the targeted 300/300 (299.4lbft 302bhp on the final graph) which in some instances is a big push for these engines.



WOW its a totally different beast again! the drive home was brisk lol. Its faster yes but nicer to drive also, the delivery of this setup pulls right to the redline with ease where as with the original turbo would punch and deliver a little harder to start with but start to die off above 5k and you would feel you were stretching things if trying to pass 6k. This now just flows and pulls so nicely. Would be mad to see how it would go with yet more torque and HP. This car has bags under the curve now and weighing so little its now effectively 300bhp per ton. That puts it up there with a lot of nice machinery. I WILL have to get some proper videos done

 

[Twingo 1??]

Brisk is probably a bit of an understatement lol. How does it handle now with the extra weight up front or is it ok now its got a 133 front end on it?

 

[Adey.]

Brisk is probably a bit of an understatement lol. How does it handle now with the extra weight up front or is it ok now its got a 133 front end on it?

Lol well its fast for a twingo/renault but if you are already in a modern super saloon or something its probably only quick. Yeah it handles very well, swapping out to all the rs133 items improved it but the rear arb made a big difference. It was pretty good on the GT/Clio 172 parts to be fair. I also spent a decent amount of time getting the heights and alignment correct. The car is lighter overall than a 133 too weighing in at 1000kgs +/- 20kg

 

[SharpyClio]

Love things like this, what a machine!! Nice work.

 

[Adey.]

Love things like this, what a machine!! Nice work.

cheers

 

[Flat Eric]

Bet it flies!
Credit to yourself for building this. Enjoy it

 

[RustyMojo]

I bloody love this car Adey! Top work. Hope to see more of it at some more local Glawwwssteerrr meets this summer

 

[Adey.]

I bloody love this car Adey! Top work. Hope to see more of it at some more local Glawwwssteerrr meets this summer

cheers bud, yep me and the car are very much up for getting out alot more this year

 

[Adey.]

Here's a fun one to look at, in the real world I'm not sure how it would fair but a list of 300ish bhp cars per ton

 

[VenomUK]

cheers bud, yep me and the car are very much up for getting out alot more this year

@Adeyspec @DavidDave There is another meet at the Boho on the Sunday 20th

The Monthly Boho Car Meet

Event by The Boho Bakery on Sunday, February 20 2022

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[RustyMojo]

@Adeyspec @DavidDave There is another meet at the Boho on the Sunday 20th

The Monthly Boho Car Meet

Event by The Boho Bakery on Sunday, February 20 2022

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I won’t have the s**t box sorted by then mate! In the spring she’ll be out ready to rock

 

[Clio.lee]

Did you not bother fitting a set of 250 pistons and rods

 

[Adey.]

Did you not bother fitting a set of 250 pistons and rods

No saving them for the next build

 

[Adey.]

@Adeyspec @DavidDave There is another meet at the Boho on the Sunday 20th

The Monthly Boho Car Meet

Event by The Boho Bakery on Sunday, February 20 2022

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Will take a look onto it 👍🏻

 

[Adey.]

The usual waffle about the car, a trip to EFI parts and the results. Small issue with the actuator on the way meaning I drove 100+ miles with no boost, It became an NA f4r.... it was slow lol. The next video should be a lot better

 

[Adey.]

More bits for the parts pile

 

[Twingo 1??]

More bits for the parts pile

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Your as bad as me, the only difference being you eventually fit yours lol.

 

[Adey.]

its bad, my garage is full of boxes ive not even opened 🤦‍♂️

 

[Adey.]

More parts here to just sit in the garage until I can actually roll around under the car. Set of rs133 rear hubs with 7mm taken off the backs. This should 1, make them totally true to the stub axle itself and 2, give me some extra clearence to stop the wheels catching the arches 👍🏻

 

[Ricardos]

More parts here to just sit in the garage until I can actually roll around under the car. Set of rs133 rear hubs with 7mm taken off the backs. This should 1, make them totally true to the stub axle itself and 2, give me some extra clearence to stop the wheels catching the arches 👍🏻

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Would make it much better, after seeing how it sat at the Cooksport day 👌