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Well the drive shaft and track rod issues are sorted with help from NorthloopCup Chip-mk1 and Carbonraider .
For the track rods I had some longer adapters made.
And I've fitted a set of new genuine ph2 172 shafts which are 20mm longer each side than the ph1 shafts. For the o/s I went for the two piece shaft and sourced a used bearing carrier.
Still waiting on the ASTs though...
For the track rods I had some longer adapters made.
And I've fitted a set of new genuine ph2 172 shafts which are 20mm longer each side than the ph1 shafts. For the o/s I went for the two piece shaft and sourced a used bearing carrier.
Still waiting on the ASTs though...
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Looking good mate. I'll be back on at Ast tomorrow afternoon when I get up.
Well the drive shaft and track rod issues are sorted with help from @NorthloopCup @Chip-mk1 and @Carbonraider .
For the track rods I had some longer adapters made.
And I've fitted a set of new genuine ph2 172 shafts which are 20mm longer each side than the ph1 shafts. For the o/s I went for the two piece shaft and sourced a used bearing carrier.
Still waiting on the ASTs though...
Looks good that. Need to do mine.
Would you do me a favour please? And measure the length of the track rod if you could. The entire thing, and just thread down please. My lemforder items still seem a little short.
Cheers
I took the car for its first proper drive with the roll centre kit fitted. It's good! I wrote a brief review on it here http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?717989-Roll-centre-bump-steer-corrector-hubs/page36
Also had some good news yesterday, apparently my ASTs are ready so I've booked a hotel and I'm traveling down to Cheltenham to pick them up, going to squeeze in a trip to Kenilworth Castle tomorrow to take the kids to watch some jousting too. All being well I'll get the struts fitted on Sunday and take it out for a drive :race:
Also had some good news yesterday, apparently my ASTs are ready so I've booked a hotel and I'm traveling down to Cheltenham to pick them up, going to squeeze in a trip to Kenilworth Castle tomorrow to take the kids to watch some jousting too. All being well I'll get the struts fitted on Sunday and take it out for a drive :race:
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I'll have to bring the shotgun out of retirement if I've been told porkies!!! :lolup:
Megane r26
doubt this will phase Curtis due to his kidnapping experience haha
I hope it doesn't come to that, but that's definitely the solution if so!
Great news on the ASTs mate, looking forward to seeing your reviews.
Tbh on the road I doubt they'll be much different to yours, I'll just have damping adjustment for track use really as they'll be on fully soft for road.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Im glad to see that they included another set of tops to suit your Ast top mounts mate! Clearly they listened to me when I called to make the demand! LolHere we go at long last! Going to make a start fitting them
Thanks for that Mark. I'll get them swapped over then.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
No worries at all mate. We got there in the end!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Mmm, shiny new bits. Looking good, mate - I like it.
Here we go at long last! Going to make a start fitting them
Why do yours look so different to mine lol!!??
What spring rates did you go for?
I've got a plastic thing in between the spring and height adjuster on mine...
You've got Eibach springs on yours whereas mine are AST springs (same colour paint as the Cooksport springs funny enough so I wouldn't be surprised if the planned Cooksport coilovers have something to do with AST one way or another) so my guess would be that Eibach didn't make a suitable free length spring which is why AST have their own now so they don't need the spacer.
As for spring rates I've got 400lb front and 285lb rear. It rides spot on, couldn't be happier tbh. I've got less roll which I wanted but its road manners are the same, if not better than the Cooksport springs (it'll be down to the damper technology rather than spring rate though). Looking forward to trying it out on track now, the combination of the coilovers and the roll centre kit is unbelievable.
so I wouldn't be surprised if the planned Cooksport coilovers have something to do with AST one way or another) so my guess would be that Eibach didn't make a suitable free length spring which is why AST have their own now so they don't need the spacer.As for spring rates I've got 400lb front and 285lb rear. It rides spot on, couldn't be happier tbh. I've got less roll which I wanted but its road manners are the same, if not better than the Cooksport springs (it'll be down to the damper technology rather than spring rate though). Looking forward to trying it out on track now, the combination of the coilovers and the roll centre kit is unbelievable.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Cheers chaps. Mine are 450lbs all round from memory. Or maybe slightly more on the front. Can't remember what josh decided on for me when I ordered them. Need to get them fitted urgently just waiting on some bits back from my mate.
I did did wonder what this bit on mine was! Got any pictures of yours mark? NorthloopCup bet it looks better than the plastic on mine.
Is plastic actually strong enough?? Guess it must be!
I did did wonder what this bit on mine was! Got any pictures of yours mark? NorthloopCup bet it looks better than the plastic on mine.
Is plastic actually strong enough?? Guess it must be!
Yes they were
They do 10" http://www.hmsraceparts.com/Eibach-1-9-ID-10-Length-Springs/
I could go stiffer all round but it's so composed and comfy on the road whilst having minimal roll I don't know if I'd want to. Joe is running the same rates as me IIRC
You'd be surprised how strong some plastics are! Martin. Have a look at your springs. They should be something like 180-80 on the front which would be 7" free length (180mm) and 456lb (80nm) and the rear maybe 130-90 so 5" and 514lb if they are the 'track' setup.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I've got some pictures mate, but I'm fucked if I can work out how to upload them off my phone via photofuckit! I need a tutorial! Lol! Yeah plastic/nylon is fine and extremely strong. It's beautiful to work with on the lathe as well! I've got nylon rear top suspension bushes and I'll be having some nylon bushes made for the dogbone as well.
Ah they must be for the American market then Tom. The guys in the uk definitely don't do them as I rang to find out. Faulkeners do them now in a 10" length, but they only go up to 400lbs.Yes they were
They do 10" http://www.hmsraceparts.com/Eibach-1-9-ID-10-Length-Springs/
I could go stiffer all round but it's so composed and comfy on the road whilst having minimal roll I don't know if I'd want to. @Joe is running the same rates as me IIRC
You'd be surprised how strong some plastics are! @Martin. Have a look at your springs. They should be something like 180-80 on the front which would be 7" free length (180mm) and 456lb (80nm) and the rear maybe 130-90 so 5" and 514lb if they are the 'track' setup.
Might be able to get some cheap from the states? Handy to know Faulkner do them if I ever want it hard in the rear...ooherr
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Flol I've just clicked on the link and seen they're a uk company!!! I thought it was the one that's in America! Fail! Interested to know why the guys at head office said that 5" was the longest they did. Unless they're motorbike front shock springs. Hmm.
Lol!
Three days after getting it all back together I had more bad luck...fresh gearbox oil down the road and on the driveway coming from the O/S gearbox seal.
So upon investigation it turns out the driveshaft end section had shifted slightly and moved closer to the seal then worn away the outer lip of the seal.
I couldn't knock the end piece back into place so left it where it was and ground the end down a few mm and leaving a few mm spare before reaching the splines.
New seal fitted and I've got plenty of clearance now
Going to give it a good run later and then check again
I also adjusted the ASTs slightly, going to see how it goes before I lower it any more. Currently its 580mm from arch to floor.
I sent off my application to swap my private plate over, that came through about 10 days ago so I ordered some pressed plates from Dubmeister again and got those fitted.
Hopefully I'll get time tomorrow to do the rear discs as one of the rear bearings is on its way out. I ordered new Brembo items along with a pair of new rear disc spacers from g172 and I got the usual excellent service we're all accustomed too on here! Thanks George.
So upon investigation it turns out the driveshaft end section had shifted slightly and moved closer to the seal then worn away the outer lip of the seal.
I couldn't knock the end piece back into place so left it where it was and ground the end down a few mm and leaving a few mm spare before reaching the splines.
New seal fitted and I've got plenty of clearance now
Going to give it a good run later and then check again
I also adjusted the ASTs slightly, going to see how it goes before I lower it any more. Currently its 580mm from arch to floor.
I sent off my application to swap my private plate over, that came through about 10 days ago so I ordered some pressed plates from Dubmeister again and got those fitted.
Hopefully I'll get time tomorrow to do the rear discs as one of the rear bearings is on its way out. I ordered new Brembo items along with a pair of new rear disc spacers from g172 and I got the usual excellent service we're all accustomed too on here! Thanks George.
Not done a great deal really, been making use of it
Recently the ABS got ditched, got rid of the bracket too and got around to fitting my battery cut-off switch.
Some minor weight saving, got rid of one horn and bent the bracket to tuck it up out of the way. Also removed the weight by the engine mount.
I'd decided I was going to go down to 195/50 from 205/50 R15 tyres but changed my mind again so the R888 went and I got a set of AD08R to try out, the Federal RSR still have a fair bit of life left so I'll sell those on when I take them off.
I kept having issues with the throttle cable sticking when the car was run for a prolonged time and got hot, I put this down to the close proximity of the manifold to the cable so I wrapped it in the heat reflective fibreglass stuff and doubled up the thickness on the bulkhead too.
On Mark's recommendation NorthloopCup I fitted some Schnorr washers to the strut bolts.
And then took the family out for a drive, scream if you want to go faster!
Recently the ABS got ditched, got rid of the bracket too and got around to fitting my battery cut-off switch.
Some minor weight saving, got rid of one horn and bent the bracket to tuck it up out of the way. Also removed the weight by the engine mount.
I'd decided I was going to go down to 195/50 from 205/50 R15 tyres but changed my mind again so the R888 went and I got a set of AD08R to try out, the Federal RSR still have a fair bit of life left so I'll sell those on when I take them off.
I kept having issues with the throttle cable sticking when the car was run for a prolonged time and got hot, I put this down to the close proximity of the manifold to the cable so I wrapped it in the heat reflective fibreglass stuff and doubled up the thickness on the bulkhead too.
On Mark's recommendation NorthloopCup I fitted some Schnorr washers to the strut bolts.
And then took the family out for a drive, scream if you want to go faster!
Interior has come back out for Oulton on the 27th, tracking has been set and I've put my spacers back on the front with the studs and nuts. It looks wide
With the tracking set it drives better than ever, can't wait to get it out on track and see what it can do. Gave it a wash and a polish too.
With the tracking set it drives better than ever, can't wait to get it out on track and see what it can do. Gave it a wash and a polish too.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Is that blue sky and sunshine in welsh wales?!?! You told me it only rains or blows a gale!! Lol! Cars looking good tom.
Carbonraider
ClioSport Club Member
Raider, 172, the van
Looking good tom il make sure I get some good pictures if there is no one taking any you fancy renting the arch roller out I was bidding on 1 last week but didn't win
What spacers are you running to.
you fancy renting the arch roller out I was bidding on 1 last week but didn't win What spacers are you running to.
It was blowing a gale!
Looking good tom il make sure I get some good pictures if there is no one taking any
What spacers are you running to.
So up front over a standard phase 1 I've got a cup subframe (+10mm each side), roll centre kit (+5mm each side), ET35 wheels (+8mm each side) and 10mm spacers. So a 66mm wider front track.
On the back I've got the ET35 wheels and 7.5mm hub spacers. But after rolling the arches I'm hoping to go 15 or 20mm spacers. So potentially 56mm wider on the back; depends how much I can pull the arches out. I'll be getting the arches repainted afterwards so not bothered it the paint cracks so hopefully I can get them out quite far.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Lol! Many purple rinsers out on the sea front??
The issue I have with mine is how close the rear bumper was to the tyres. They've rubbed it away a fair bit now though. The scrubbing came from the tyres touching the inside of the wheel arch about 2" up. This was due to the compression of the suspension though, so I'm hopeful that now I've upped the rates all round this won't be an issue.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I thrashed mine with a hammer in that particular area. They're made of sturdy stuff in that area!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Looks awesome, mate
Looks awesome, mate
Thanks Andy. I need to sort out the diamond on the front, it's been tatty since I got the bonnet.
