SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Laugh it off, move on. That's the plan fella
It's upsetting but pales into insignificance when compared to the real hard-hitting issues that many have to face.
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The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy
It's upsetting but pales into insignificance when compared to the real hard-hitting issues that many have to face.
Paul172sport
ClioSport Club Member
Sunflower Ph1
Andy I'll echo the above and say how gutted I am for you. I had hoped Russ would have fixed most the issues, obviously didn't appreciate how deep they ran. I respect your attitude and commitment to the build.
Hopefully we will see you at combe next month?
I don't think there is a single person on the forum that doesn't want to see you driving his in anger again
Hopefully we will see you at combe next month?
I don't think there is a single person on the forum that doesn't want to see you driving his in anger again
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Absolutely gutted to read this, although i'm very much in the "your just throwing money away" camp now. Put a standard engine in it & enjoy it. Its never going to be particularly quick anyway (even with 210bhp) so just enjoy it for what it is. Maybe its just luck, but i've had 3 Trophies (& endless 1*2's), kept the engine standard on each, & barring routine maintenance, thrashed the ar5e off each of them with no issues.
Id suggest you do the same, you could have probably bought a CSL with all the money you've ploughed into this :weary:
Id suggest you do the same, you could have probably bought a CSL with all the money you've ploughed into this :weary:
It'll be quick when mike and I have finished with it
Because, boost?? [emoji41]
They call me 2 bar terry, not atmospheric Adam
But in all seriousness, we haven't decided on a spec yet. It's all still in Andys hands as to what direction we go.
Trophy Turbo :)
Two bar terry Dan LOL
" If it doesnt blow it sucks"
Chin up Andy lad
" If it doesnt blow it sucks"
Chin up Andy lad
It'll last, several things on the current spec aren't to our recommendations for the build itll be having.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I'M f**king CRYING!!
Megane r26
TALK TO ME!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks for replying and continuing to follow the thread mate
Sadly the problems did run deeper hence the reason for the Trophy spending a lot of the time off the road recently and not being able to enjoy it and put some miles on her.As for next month, I'm assuming you mean the Action Day at Combe? If so then yes - I will be there. My club has a stand again and - alas - the pink shed will be a no-show once more! I guess I could always trailer the shell over... hahaha!
I've been overwhelmed by the PM's and messages I've received recently. There are some real genuine and kind folks here and it's been both a pleasant surprise and motivational in terms of getting the Trophy back on the road in one form or another. People I don't know beyond their usernames willing to offer so much to help me out; from engine loans/swaps to letting me borrow their cars, to help sourcing parts, and so on. I can't tell you how grateful I am to those people (and indeed folks like yourself who have been daft enough to follow my thread!) Thanks! LOL! The Trophy will see the light of day again and, despite another period of downtime whilst plans are made and worked through, I'm determined to enjoy this blasted car!
I hear you mate. With all the money I've thrown at this car since I bought it I'd be well on my way to BMW 1M ownership by now (a car I secretly desire). Hindsight is a wonderful thing but, sadly, I went past that line of no return a while back and it's a plan that didn't work out. As hinted at already there are many options on the table and I'm going to consider them carefully. I think I've pretty much made up my mind after a chat with friends and, importantly, my bos- good lady. She just wants to see me in a car and happy again at the end of the day. As sad as it is, the car/driving is my only real hobby. I'm not big on lavish holidays, don't drink, don't smoke, am generally boring. Hence the lack of car to have some fun in has been frustrating. Sure, I love the Type-R and will continue to get my NA kicks from that but it still can't deliver on the smiles that the Clio can bring. When it's working!
Obligatory (misleading?) image now coming up...
Many options are being discussed Scott.Russ, you've been my rock dude! x LOL! Replacing the boot struts was the icing on the cake my friend!
Cheers Andy. I'm pretty much over it now; only the odd breakdown and trickle of tears! A few days away courtesy of my amazing better half has put me in a good mood and the fact she has agreed with my choices / ideas so far (in terms of getting the T back on the road) has also helped my mood. LOL!
PMSL!
Chris205
ClioSport Club Member
Many Things
Andy I really get the feeling you're prepping yourself to throw more money at this in the form of boost and giving it one last go. As cool as it will be I think if you are considering ploughing more money into this (more than a standard engine and ecu will cost) then you want your head looking at lol.
I never thought there would be issues with this thing after Fred spent so much time on the build but apparently even after that much careful consideration with the engine build it can still go wrong.
Stick a standard lump in it, see if it lasts more than a few thousand miles of abuse, if the new lump proves to be good then consider boosting it but only when you know its a reliable engine to start with.
Dont want to sound like I'm preaching but if I come on here again for updates and see the trophy has had yet more money thrown at engine modifications and its gone tits up then I'll probably cry for you.....and send a big slap in the post lol
I'm also wondering why on earth you havent just modified your ladies CTR? You'll get much better power gains from tuning that and getting the chassis set up properly will make it quite entertaining down a 'b' road
I never thought there would be issues with this thing after Fred spent so much time on the build but apparently even after that much careful consideration with the engine build it can still go wrong.
Stick a standard lump in it, see if it lasts more than a few thousand miles of abuse, if the new lump proves to be good then consider boosting it but only when you know its a reliable engine to start with.
Dont want to sound like I'm preaching but if I come on here again for updates and see the trophy has had yet more money thrown at engine modifications and its gone tits up then I'll probably cry for you.....and send a big slap in the post lol
I'm also wondering why on earth you havent just modified your ladies CTR? You'll get much better power gains from tuning that and getting the chassis set up properly will make it quite entertaining down a 'b' road
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Boost is certainly a possibility mate and one of the options being looked at. And you are quite right, regardless of how the build / mapping comes together there is always going to be a risk. I was aware of that from the start hence made sure I had the finances together and enough in reserve in case something went bang. And it has. Sure, I'm upset and it's a lot of money down the drain but I'm not broke and I appreciate I'm in a very lucky position to be able to try different things with the car. I guess it's one of the benefits of being almost double the age of many people on here and not having a family and/or expensive hobbies/habits!
If I'm being brutally honest I don't care much for a 'standard' lump; that's not being disrespectful to you and your views. It's borne more out of the fact that I have had so much trouble with the standard lump (prior to going balls out with the high-comp build) that I have no real desire to go back to standard if I can find another option that takes my fancy. Looking back over the costs over the years I've actually spent almost as much trying to fix and maintain the standard lump as I had invested in the high-comp build. It is quite scary how the numbers roll upwards. I won't argue with you on many points, especially in terms of needing a slap and getting my head looked at, but I am in a position to be able to give it one more go.
Due to pulling a house deposit together and my good lady being made redundant last week, it's not actually something I've taken lightly. The thread may appear overly dramatic and aloof but I can assure you some serious thought has gone into it. For said reasons, I can't justify spending 20/30k plus on the car I want on my driveway right now but I can have one last roll of the dice with the Clio.
As for the CTR... it has been modified already in terms of brakes, handling and geometry setup. It does handle real nicely and is a lot of fun to drive. But it's as much my missus car and she's happy with how it is (so I leave it alone). Prior to getting involved with the Clio I was involved in the Type-R scene and was admin for a large Type-R owners club / site. Hence I've seen a lot of them and had a fair bit of involvement with them over the years. I know how well they respond to various tuning mods (that K20 lump is fantastic with the right mods) but it runs so beautifully, the engine is strong, and it doesn't need tampering with. And the missus won't let me.
Hey, preach away if you so wish mate. I appreciate your reply and views regardless of whether or not I agree with them or whether or not I share your opinions. I'll always respectfully take them in and I do see the common sense and genuine concern in what you are saying. I'll happily take that slap if things go wrong (hopefully they won't) but I'm going to take this final opportunity to keep Trophy 165 alive whilst I am able to do so and in a position to be able to do so. I've very much made my own bed so must lie in it. Or had my cake and eaten it. Or something. I was never good with metaphors.
Joking aside, thanks for the reply and trying to inject some common sense and reasoning. I do appreciate it and hear what you are saying. Cheers
Chris205
ClioSport Club Member
Many Things
Thanks for the reply Andy.
I just know how disheartening it is when things don't go quite the way you want them to, I've not went to the extent of your builds and quite glad I haven't I've just had a trophy that liked to eat engines for fun. They're a very special car in their own right and most people who own/have owned one will know where I'm coming from, most who haven't probably won't understand it's appeal over a normal Clio 1*2 so I can see why you're sticking at it. My comments about abusing it with the standard lump were really so you got chance to get back in the car and have some fun without the worrying thought of that 'yet another expensive build' going up in smoke. Do you know if you will even enjoy the car anymore? Have you had so little enjoyment from it these last few years that you're casting your mind back to the times when there wasn't any issues and life was all Rosie in trophy land?
Either way mate you've stolen the hearts of many Clio enthusiasts and I'm sure most of us feel your pain and frustration.
I don't really know much about dan and mick but I'm sure they will do their best to save the beast and give you some more enjoyment back from the T. If you're sticking with the standard isn't for me I need mods, then a big bloody turbo will do just nicely! Boost Is far better than n/a anyway
I just know how disheartening it is when things don't go quite the way you want them to, I've not went to the extent of your builds and quite glad I haven't I've just had a trophy that liked to eat engines for fun. They're a very special car in their own right and most people who own/have owned one will know where I'm coming from, most who haven't probably won't understand it's appeal over a normal Clio 1*2 so I can see why you're sticking at it. My comments about abusing it with the standard lump were really so you got chance to get back in the car and have some fun without the worrying thought of that 'yet another expensive build' going up in smoke. Do you know if you will even enjoy the car anymore? Have you had so little enjoyment from it these last few years that you're casting your mind back to the times when there wasn't any issues and life was all Rosie in trophy land?
Either way mate you've stolen the hearts of many Clio enthusiasts and I'm sure most of us feel your pain and frustration.
I don't really know much about dan and mick but I'm sure they will do their best to save the beast and give you some more enjoyment back from the T. If you're sticking with the standard isn't for me I need mods, then a big bloody turbo will do just nicely! Boost Is far better than n/a anyway
I am so pleased you are motivated to get this car working again in one form or another!
I have my fingers crossed for you mate - as always.
I have my fingers crossed for you mate - as always.
Turbo 182 Alfa 159
What a shitter, but like you said its always a risk even when you have built it to such a great spec. Reading it, I think I would of just threw a match on it by now but reality is if I was in this position I would be itching to make it work again and not giving up either.
You sound like a friend with a astra vxr, he must of piled £50k+ into it by now! Build it, break it, rinse and repeat lol.
You sound like a friend with a astra vxr, he must of piled £50k+ into it by now! Build it, break it, rinse and repeat lol.
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Hey, my pleasure - I'm always open to feedback, comments, ideas, opinions, suggestions, criticisms so thanks for taking the time to reply at length. Will I enjoy the Trophy? Yes - I am pretty sure I will mate. I've had many good memories and times prior to the more serious problems (even if the car wasn't exactly 100% back then either!) The RenaultSport Clio 'thing' has just bitten and I honestly can't think of a more fun and enjoyable car to drive for such relatively little money (obviously until the modifications begin!) I've always maintained that the Trophy will be a keeper and it will be; even if this is the last 'major' effort I put in to the car (not including general maintenance, servicing and car care). Whilst the car has been away with various specialists over the years I've been able to enjoy a few different Clios with different levels of modification (loan/courtesy cars) and they all have had the distinct RS Clio 'something' about them; something that makes them fun to drive. I'm confident it will be back on the road and that I will be able to enjoy it this time.
But if I'm wrong you've positioned yourself nicely at the front of the "he needs a good slapping" queue.
Hey, George - thanks mate. I want to get off this rollercoaster now! :tonguewink:
A match and a few litres of super unleaded is one of the options actually... hahahahaha! £50k+ though on your friend's VXR?! Even I think that's a bit mental!
Exactly Russ - you've got to take the positives. Every cloud and all that! :tongueout:
Cheers for reading the updates Chris. I can only echo your words and say that I, too, look forward to seeing it on the road again :grinning:
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
I have put my ITB's (including back plate and filter) up for sale along with the GEN90 ECU. If you, or someone you know, are interested then please get in touch. Thank you.
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/jenvey-itbs-and-gen90-ecu.771123/
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/jenvey-itbs-and-gen90-ecu.771123/
Sunglasses_Ron
ClioSport Admin
Gutted for you mate!
Why is it that in this life s**t things always seem to happen to diamond people!
Chin up buddy
Why is it that in this life s**t things always seem to happen to diamond people!
Chin up buddy
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Cheers @Sunglasses_Ron - appreciate the sentiments mate :smile: Onwards and upwards. It WILL be 4th time lucky :smile:
182cup & 172 racecar
As we discussed.
Sorry to hear your predicament.
But at the same time.
I'm worried!!
Sorry to hear your predicament.
But at the same time.
I'm worried!!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Cheers Tony.
I hear you mate and I feel your pain, I really do. The clock is ticking and I just hope you are able to make the most of this race season and with a car that is as reliable as it is competitive. My fingers are crossed for you mate
The sledgehammer is also still an option at the moment...
Incidentally, what you call passion... some would call stupidity! Cheers for the reply fella 
Evo 5 RS
Andy! Real bad news mate, gutted for you.
That said you took the plunge and you only live once (and it's only money!). This is why I never went the forged route, and why I envy Dan for having the know how to simply rebuild and move on. He turned my old car into an animal. Chin up bud, cars are grief whether they're standard or not standard. Just have to think of these things as consumables
That said you took the plunge and you only live once (and it's only money!). This is why I never went the forged route, and why I envy Dan for having the know how to simply rebuild and move on. He turned my old car into an animal. Chin up bud, cars are grief whether they're standard or not standard. Just have to think of these things as consumables
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Cheers Mike Yeah, I figure I'm as likely to have problems with a standard car as I am with a modified car so what the heck...!
The good news is that the ball is rolling on the new build (albeit VERY early days). F**king Clios. :tonguewink:
Yeah, I figure I'm as likely to have problems with a standard car as I am with a modified car so what the heck...!The good news is that the ball is rolling on the new build (albeit VERY early days). F**king Clios. :tonguewink:
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Likewise mate, it was good to meet you too. Apologies for the interruption though!
Thanks for taking some time to have a look through the thread; I appreciate there's a lot of waffle in between the more 'serious' bits. Yeah, the car has certainly been a pain in the ass but, as said to you and Dan earlier, I'd made that decision to throw money at the car rather than buy something else hence I have to live with that decision! Had I known a few years back the trouble that lay in store, I would most definitely have bought something else instead. That said, yes - I'm more than happy it's with Dan, Chip and Mike (and that the engine is going to be built by Steve). Another lengthy wait ahead no doubt, but I'm determined to see it through.
Talking of cursed cars, I do hope your boosted Inferno is soon back on the road mate. I was sorry to hear the ordeal you've been through with yours too (although it was good to see you making progress on it today). When all is done I'll head over and join a south west meet / social and celebrate!
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Engine built by Steve I hear? Good strong reliable engine on its way then fella. :wink:
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Steve is one of the guys that I turn to for advice or to run ideas/thoughts past, and not just car or engineering stuff. I've known him for a LOT of years and his advice and help through the years has been invaluable due to his vast experience. He's a good close friend of mine.
Background wise, he works for BT! Yes, I just said BT! Lol! Don't let that put you off though! He's got connections that are ex f1 guys, access to one of the best machinists and a large collective of engineering minds that can come up with a solution/answer to any issues.
He's also undertaking a full nut and bolt restoration on his original ford RS200. This cars being built up with the intention of it being used as well! No trailer queens need apply, but it will still be concourse condition.
182cup & 172 racecar
Mmmm.
