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306 gti6, Clio 182
Made 188.7 bhp and only 136.5 in ft
BUT the torque curve is very flat, as I said before feels very reponesive it makes 130 ib ft between 3800rpm all the way to 7300rpm
Still I think the car had very good numbers before With just beathing mods (and it was a very damp day)
Oh well surpose I have to wait and see what the 438 cams do!
My old ph1 had 438s ported inlets plus other little mods made 193bhp on two sets of rollers and found it run better on damp days
306 gti6, Clio 182
Before run at the start of the thread mate
Yes one was dans , had the car for over 6 years and then sold it to chi
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
I think I'd be disappointed with that result for the cost looking at the before and after.
Makes my 197 cams look like even better value though!
Makes my 197 cams look like even better value though!
306 gti6, Clio 182
A little bit more power, but like I said not mapped to suit I'm sure if it was would be a bit better, but still id say it was a waste of money!
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Problem is that bit more power is right at the top of the rev range so in reality your peak power was probably better/more usable before.
Hope a decent map changes that and the torque for you...
306 gti6, Clio 182
If I'd never got it on the dyno and never known the power I'd say it feels quicker! After fitting the kit it felt very responsive low down!
What can I say think I was expecting mid 190 really!
Iam not surper disappointed, because I've got 438 to go in and will be mapped to suit, I'll just have to wait if results are crap then I'll be very upset
What can I say think I was expecting mid 190 really!
Iam not surper disappointed, because I've got 438 to go in and will be mapped to suit, I'll just have to wait if results are crap then I'll be very upset
306 gti6, Clio 182
Haha not sure tba I'll wait and see
306 gti6, Clio 182
187 bhp mate
Bmw m635csi,polo.
1.7 bhp not a great result but if its not mapped its to be expected. If you put itbs on and didnt map it you would probably get the same power. There is no doubt the engine is getting a lot more air in a lot quicker than before just simply down to the more direct route if the fueling hasnt been compensated for the added air the mixture wont be right therefore not producing anymore power. I dont think its a waste of money the sound alone is probably worth some of the cost. In hindsight its probably too expensive for what it is and should have been £500 but i guess the 2 guys on here and me have took one for the team as is always the case with a new product. I am still hoping for some decent results as mine is getting mapped, to be fair the tourqe is what i wanted not a headline bhp figure so iam quite pleased that it has given a smoother tourqe curve. Hopefully wont be too long before i can get mine mapped .
If it's running rich its lost flow against the previous setup.
I've had a quick look at ads, namely checking it before fitting and glad I have. Bolted it up to a spare cylinder head and found its got a few leaks (used a snap on smoke tester that I use for finding such issues!) and found both the carbon canister and the brake servo take off are both leaking. So they'll need addressing before I fit it properly.
In honesty at the moment I'm not holding much hope of many (if any!) gains. The plenum chamber is much smaller against the RS2, and the trumpets are machined, which hasn't given as much of 'free air' for it to gulp from.
ADS_V6
ClioSport Club Member
172 cup clio v6 st
Dan hi if you think the inlet is shite is it worth fitting,or not
Bmw m635csi,polo.
Where are they leaking from? Is it where they are connected to the plenum? Also i assume the connection on the left hand side as you look at it is the carbon canister connection and the other is the brake booster as thats how i was going to plumb it in.
306 gti6, Clio 182
It was running slightly rich before rstuner overrun map I don't have any figures for the afr but I remember mike saying it was slightly rich
Also I sorted the s**t fitting fittings at the bottom of the manifold before fitting
Bmw m635csi,polo.
How did you sort them just so i can make sure its right before i bolt it on?
With it being with a specialist, you're facing a bill for this shite. I'd be speaking to the guy.
Bmw m635csi,polo.
Personaly i would like my money back but lets be honest thats not going to happen we all bought this because it looked well made and a decent bit of kit. Turns out it isnt what we all hoped for. But he never promised anything or any massive gains so to be fair to him we havent got a reason to ask for our money back other than we think its a bit s**t now we have it. Personaly iam just going to fit it and hope for the best its a waste if £850 potentialy but it might turn out ok still.
Bmw m635csi,polo.
Let me know what happens i cant see me getting my money back now i have drilled the f**king thing
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